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That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« on: May 01, 2023, 02:46:39 AM »
  If we can believe the news, he was apparently relishing the idea of getting plenty of folks DEAD !

   https://apnews.com/article/leaked-documents-air-national-guardsman-jack-teixeira-d7c8dbaeb3b7a5ae69faeab04ede2ab0

   That is bad enough...and he was a rat for doing as he did. 

   ..But he is not alone, and I am just as eager to see the so-called "leakers" in the offices of the Pentagon and the "justice' department,
    as well as those dastardly deep state traitors who "leaked" from the Trump administration, rounded up!

   They should meet the same justice, since they carry a security clearance also. they should not get away with what some poor Air
    Guard sap couldn't get away with..
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2023, 02:55:26 AM »
Well, let's see. This little traitor let us know that we had actual combat troops in the Ukraine while the government was telling us we didn't, and thats just for starters.
Seems to me, pointed out a lot of transgressions that our government had been denying, or was sneakily doing illegally behind the citizenry back.

So! Traitor? Or whistle blowing patriot?
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2023, 06:01:07 AM »
My question is, how did an E-3 get such a high security clearance? There’s more to this than meets the eye.

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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2023, 07:33:47 AM »
I'm thinking there isn't.
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2023, 10:43:00 AM »
  If he wanted to be a "whistle blower", there is a better way of doing it, rather than putting it on a video game website!

  He admitted he wanted to "kill a ton of people".  Doing it a more restrained but positive way, would accomplish what he wanted, and
   not risk innocent lives.
   
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2023, 01:11:44 PM »
My question is, how did an E-3 get such a high security clearance? There’s more to this than meets the eye.

Because no one higher up in his command wanted to deal with the mundane tasks of recieving and distributing classified communications.  As an E-3 in my Navy squadron, I had the additional duty of mail clerk.  This allowed me access to pick up and courier secret communications in printed form. 

In an Air Nat'l Guard unit, the available personnel has to fill more than one billet, sooooo.....

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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2023, 01:21:18 PM »
My question is, how did an E-3 get such a high security clearance? There’s more to this than meets the eye.

I'm thinking there isn't.

My question is, how did an E-3 get such a high security clearance? There’s more to this than meets the eye.

Because no one higher up in his command wanted to deal with the mundane tasks of recieving and distributing classified communications.  As an E-3 in my Navy squadron, I had the additional duty of mail clerk.  This allowed me access to pick up and courier secret communications in printed form. 

In an Air Nat'l Guard unit, the available personnel has to fill more than one billet, sooooo.....

Roger

And there is the mystery, that wasn't. Thanks,  ;)
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2023, 02:05:13 AM »
  From my experience, and others may differ..degree of security clearance doesn't always rest with pay grade.  Bradley (Chelsea)
  Manning, was a PFC (E3), when he betrayed his country.  Meanwhile, thousands of other E3s, kept their honor.

   I was an E3 when I first received my secret clearance...as was my grandson, when he was granted top secret....and he still carries it
   in his present job...even though his pay grade now is equivalent to a Major or Lt Col..

  Curiously, it is often high ranking people, even as civilians..who have turned to treason.  All it takes is some clown who thinks he/she knows better than anyone else.  ...Consider Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, both of whom, took a seat in "old Sparky" !

  The FBI and others completely investigate  all candidates for security clearance.  It appears that most all start out fine, but end up snared in some kind of habit or sin that draws them away from their original position.

  Just review.. During WW2 Norway minister defense, Vidkun Quisling, turned to the Nazis..now "Quisling" is synonymous with treason.

     Phillipe Petain, Prime minister of France, when the war started, caved to the Nazis..forming the Vichy French.  the Vichy scuttled off
      to Algiers, and held out until the invasion of North Africa..

  Then there was chief warrant officer John Walker, who led a family of treason..

 ...And perhaps the most famous traitor of all....General Benedict Arnold !   If only he had not met Miss Peggy Shippen !  ;) ;D
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2023, 02:29:30 AM »
  Keep in mind, Arnold was a hero, twice wounded, and was recovering in Philadelphia, when he decided to turn traitor.

   While he was courting a Tory's daughter, Peggy Shippen, many thousands of low ranking troops were still dying in battle, as well as
    starving and freezing in Valley Forge and a hundred other places.

    If you read up on Arnold, you will discover that it wasn't his leg, wounded at both Quebec and Saratoga..that made him turn.

  It was his wounded pride (no promotion) that made him a traitor...along with a "high maintenance' wife, Peggy.
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2023, 04:41:12 PM »
So, I have sad the young Airman did it the wrong way...  Obviously, publishing highly classified material on an open website, is just about the WORST way he could do such an act..  Now, anybody who is interested..knows all about it..

   So, I owe you an explanation of how he should have done it, were he so compelled to 'spill the beans'.  Here's how...

1)  He should contact those in opposition to the way the administration.

2) He could have called the office of the Chairman of the House Armed Services committee (Mike Rogers, R-Alabama).  No problem 
   here, since every member of the house Armed Services committee has a security clearance.  The guys on his video games don't...

3) Without betraying any classified info, give them the overall picture..along with his Name , rank and SN..and his security clearance.

4) Almost for sure, he would have gotten a call back , whereupon thy could arrange a way to provide the info to the committee.

5) Problem seems to be , from what I have heard, that the information was not faulty, so much as the Airman was at fault for what
   disclosing it the way he did.

  If there was something "hot" in the classified material, let the Armed services committee decide.

  On the other hand, I heard somewhere, that it was his job was to destroy classified papers, already sealed in an envelope.  If he violated the sealed envelopes..there is another charge..
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2023, 04:53:59 PM »
He's an immature kid that should never have been put where he was. I doubt it ever occurred to him to contact the Armed Services Committee, and the military would have likely intercepted him anyway.

He actually done us all a favor by exposing the corruption, but he'll pay dearly for it. The way it seems "living with his mommy" that he is a very immature little guy and was trying to impress his internet buddies, and also fell way short in the common sense department.
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Re: That sneaky Air guardsman, it seems..is cold hearted..
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2023, 05:08:28 PM »


   So, I owe you an explanation of how he should have done it, were he so compelled to 'spill the beans'.  Here's how...

1)  He should contact those in opposition to the way the administration.



2)  He would then go home and commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three times