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Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« on: March 19, 2023, 04:10:02 PM »
Col MacGregor explains how Slo Joe might be thrown under the bus for the Ukraine failure.
And where that leaves America.


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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2023, 04:37:52 PM »
Joe? Thrown under the bus? Hardly. He’s layed himself in the road right in the wheel’s path. I hope he gets a big bite too.

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2023, 12:21:03 AM »
I can see his lips moving and head nodding...but I don't hear a thing...
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2023, 02:17:52 AM »
The Ukraine war could have been stopped very easily as he stated. Biden is a puppet as he stated. If he resigns Harris will be a puppet controlled by the same Marxists.  Whoever is controlling the moves by the Biden regime did blow up the Nordstream pipeline. That is pretty evident.  We are financially bankrupt, because of the party that has been going on in Washington for decades. Its not only federal, and state debt that has has bankrupt. Personal debt is now over 15 trillion. Just like the federal government. People are spending money they don't have. 
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2023, 05:14:16 AM »
When were you last in Europe to view all this seething? Sorry, most Europeans are still backing Ukraine. Come and see for yourself instead of getting all you info from random blokes on the internet.
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2023, 07:26:42 AM »
Ireland simmering? Woke Indians? The Irish are too busy celebrating Rugby. You are mistaking a few protestors in Paris for revolution. East German Marxists of course want to go back to the world of soviet communism, and told what to by Russia. But the majority of Europeans, particularly on the states bordering Russia, still back Ukraine. And I note your litany of dissent missed out the protests in Georgia where the government were forced to drop a Russian inspired law.

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2023, 08:30:13 AM »
Paris- not all France. Why don’t you come over and see for yousem

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2023, 08:35:31 AM »
Self. Europe consists of many countries Finland Sweden - both joining NATO now. And I have heard the exact opposite to you, that Poland is more against Russian interference than ever. We are still helping Ukraine as much as we can. But you believe you stories abou Putin and what a lovely kind man he is. To think I would live to see a day when red blooded Americans were supporting and praising the Marxist communist governments and the leaders of china and Russia.
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2023, 10:53:11 AM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views.


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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2023, 11:12:50 AM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong.

He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views.

He damn sure is, and no he doesn't. And neither does his little equine sidekick.   ;)
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2023, 11:27:55 AM »
Glad to hear it.

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2023, 12:15:30 PM »
The Ukraine war could have been stopped very easily as he stated. Biden is a puppet as he stated. If he resigns Harris will be a puppet controlled by the same Marxists.  Whoever is controlling the moves by the Biden regime did blow up the Nordstream pipeline. That is pretty evident.  We are financially bankrupt, because of the party that has been going on in Washington for decades. Its not only federal, and state debt that has has bankrupt. Personal debt is now over 15 trillion. Just like the federal government. People are spending money they don't have.

    Biden could stop the war almost as quickly as it started...all he has to do is open the tap and make the USA
    petro-dominant again.
  That would be the best move to stop the war, and the best move possible to get the crap cleaned up in America.

  Problem is, neither the Communists in charge in Washington or Moscow, want the disorder to stop.

   They are all accumulating "filthy lucre"...and/or or satisfying their megalomaniac personalities !
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2023, 12:52:58 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views.

Good idea, side with an English? Over patriots... 50% of patriots disagree, ya know the ones actually willing to stand up for the U.S.A.
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2023, 01:37:00 PM »
Ask yourself a question. What side of this coin do your enemies side with? Should be eye opening. Even to the blind...

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2023, 02:03:35 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views.
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That's about as insulting as it gets, and a baldface lie. And also totally incorrect about American views,  except for the redneck  South I suppose.  Most Americans don't  savor a war as you apparently do. All because I  support Trump's military advisor Col Macgregor and have the conservative view to avoid dumbass wars! Trump as said this war was unnecessary.
Gimme a break, bud.
You must be a closet Bidenista and a neocon WEFer. The truth comes out.
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Gosh Bill. In just your 2 sentence post, TM has positively identified you as a liar, ignorant of public opinion, a redneck Southerner, a war monger, a closet Bidenista, a neocon WEFer, and your real name is "Bud".

This should henceforth discourage you from trying to deceive TM7. It simply cannot be done. You have been exposed.   ;)
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2023, 02:46:16 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views.
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That's about as insulting as it gets, and a baldface lie. And also totally incorrect about American views,  except for the redneck  South I suppose.  Most Americans don't  savor a war as you apparently do. All because I  support Trump's military advisor Col Macgregor and have the conservative view to avoid dumbass wars! Trump as said this war was unnecessary.
Gimme a break, bud.
You must be a closet Bidenista and a neocon WEFer. The truth comes out.
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Gosh Bill. In just your 2 sentence post, TM has positively identified you as a liar, ignorant of public opinion, a redneck Southerner, a war monger, a closet Bidenista, a neocon WEFer, and your real name is "Bud".

This should henceforth discourage you from trying to deceive TM7. It simply cannot be done. You have been exposed.   ;)


Well, ya always have flounder and the Bobby to pick on, or agree with... After that some will stick around and tolerate the hen pecking...

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2023, 03:29:01 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's viewsSorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views
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GB from on high has declared TM7...
...is not a red blooded American
.,.sold out to the communist dictator
...does not represent majority of Americans
...the communist dictator can do no wrong
... and apologizes to Bob, fellow war hawker
...etc.

Dee seconds that insulting incorrect rip, and both guys claim they're not Biden war complicitors.

Remember the deep South has always been democratic _ _ the exact kind of Democrats as the Biden syndicate represents today. Know what's going on.
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LMAO! SEE BILL? WE'VE BEEN EXPOSED AS "SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS". YA JUST CANT PUT NUTHIN OVER ON TM7 AND HIS EQUINE ECHO. :-\
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2023, 03:38:10 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's viewsSorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views
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GB from on high has declared TM7...
...is not a red blooded American
.,.sold out to the communist dictator
...does not represent majority of Americans
...the communist dictator can do no wrong
... and apologizes to Bob, fellow war hawker
...etc.

Dee seconds that insulting incorrect rip, and both guys claim they're not Biden war complicitors.

Remember the deep South has always been democratic _ _ the exact kind of Democrats as the Biden syndicate represents today. Know what's going on.
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LMAO! SEE BILL? WE'VE BEEN EXPOSED AS "SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS". YA JUST CANT PUT NUTHIN OVER ON TM7 AND HIS EQUINE ECHO. :-\

And, insulting/instigating me again, this time against the owners. What could possibly be your angle? When in doubt, there is no doubt...

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2023, 04:34:53 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's viewsSorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong. He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views
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GB from on high has declared TM7...
...is not a red blooded American
.,.sold out to the communist dictator
...does not represent majority of Americans
...the communist dictator can do no wrong
... and apologizes to Bob, fellow war hawker
...etc.

Dee seconds that insulting incorrect rip, and both guys claim they're not Biden war complicitors.

Remember the deep South has always been democratic _ _ the exact kind of Democrats as the Biden syndicate represents today. Know what's going on.
.
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LMAO! SEE BILL? WE'VE BEEN EXPOSED AS "SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS". YA JUST CANT PUT NUTHIN OVER ON TM7 AND HIS EQUINE ECHO. :-\

And, insulting/instigating me again, this time against the owners. What could possibly be your angle? When in doubt, there is no doubt...

Ya get what ya give. I mostly ignore you, but you continue to try and snipe me. When I respond in kind you cry. I'll go back to ignoring you. Why don't you try the same.
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2023, 03:47:50 AM »
I don’t take marching orders from little d. Ignore me if ya like, I don’t have to ignore your insults...

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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2023, 04:01:56 AM »
I don’t take marching orders from little d. Ignore me if ya like, I don’t have to ignore your insults...

You'd never get any insults from me if you'd leave me alone. But alas, thats beyond your limited scope of reasoning. ;)
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2023, 04:25:45 AM »
Back to the OP..  In my search for info, I find that Demented Joe and dick-tater Putin are two sides of the same ugly coin.

  Both seem led by neo-Marxist principles.  It looks like Joe getting his orders from the Saul Alinsky understudies, and Putin cannot seem to shake his KGB origins..

  With the breakup of the USSR, the most promising, productive and fertile areas..sought and received a
    political divorce from Russia.  One can almost sympathize with Russia, but that doesn't give Putin the moral right to recapture the nations that are not interested in rebuilding the USSR all over again.

 One would think that with the wide expanse of land available for agriculture in Russia, Putin could exploit that natural advantage.  However, as Ronald Reagan pointed out.."Russian agriculture has four major problems it most overcome, namely summer, fall, winter and spring".

  T e untold story seems to be that Putin has already engineered about 7 invasions of his neighbors, and if he can take Ukraine, he will not stop there. He is still covetous of Poland, Czechoslovakia and other former satellite states.

   In this very informative video, Peter Zeihan brings things up to date as to what is happening behind the the battle lines.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A79uneUEfjM&t=76s

 
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2023, 05:04:13 AM »
  It seems to me that some of you don't understand why the Ruskies invaded Ukraine.

It goes back to 2014 when the Minsk Agreements were signed. The Ukrainians were trying to get the Russian- Ukrainians who spoke Russian, and were of Russian heritage, but were Ukrainian citizens by not only birth because their "provinces" were in the Ukraine, but also continued to raise their families in Ukraine instead of leaving. The area WAS Russian prior to the formation of the country of Ukraine. It is called "The Donbass" region.

The Ukrainians not of Russian descent in the rest of the country decided that those who lived in the Donbass should not continue to follow their Russian ancestry & traditions, as well as speaking mostly Russian, and convert to only speaking Ukrainian & forego their Russian traditions.

The Ukrainians started to use artillery to get the residents of the Donbass to change their ways. The Minsk Agreement was set up to have the Ukrainians stop shelling and harassing the folks in the Donbass.

Well, the shelling & harassment did NOT stop after the agreement was signed by all parties involved.

Thru the years since the agreement , many times over, the Russians went to the UN & other DIPLOMATIC means to try to get the Ukrainians to stop the harassment/shelling to no avail.

As well, NATO was trying to get Ukraine into the NATO. Which was NOT gonna happen as far a Russia was concerned.

( NOTE - The acceptance of Ukraine into NATO, and the resulting arming up of missile defenses & troops/equip right on the border with Russia was NOT going to happen. It is not unlike Russia putting missiles & troops/equip in Mexico or Canada, threatening the USA. Not unlike the Nuke missiles sent to Turkey in JFKs time & the resulting Cuban Missile Crisis that was "diplomatically" smoothed over. )

So, here is a situation in a little over a year ago that a fine line had been reached.

Russia was tired of the Ukrainians shelling the "Ethnic Russian Ukrainians, as well as they WERE NOT going to let NATO add another country RIGHT ON RUSSIA Borders to build up possible forces against Russia.

SO, the RUssians did everything legally according to the UN, and following the Minsk Agreement, and went into the Donbass to "absorb" it into Russia to protect the civilians there.

Well, Ukraine and other countries in Europe as well as the USA decided to help out Ukraine fight, rather than Diplomatically solving the issue. ( After about 7-8 years after the agreement & Many civilians killed by the Ukrainians themselves.)

Since the fighting started, there has been opportunities for Diplomatic solutions to the whole deal, but for some reason,   not just Europe but the USA pushed for a Military solution rather than a diplomatic one.

( and you likely can figure it out for yourselves why it was not solved diplomatically, Think MIC & the $$$$ that war makes for folks invested in MIC corps/companies, ;) )

Ya'll can think as ya like, but the above is basically the TRUTH & how things got to where they are today.

It didn't have to happen. Simple as that.

This telling of the truth does NOT make me a Pro Russia person, it is just that I am explaining the TRUTH.

I am just as, if not more Patriotic to the USA as anyone else, and served in the Corps, swore the Oaths more than once, and continue to do what I can to keep this country safe & defended, even though I am not longer active duty. Don't try togive me any crap about being a Russia/Putin fan or any of that BS. I am just callin it like I see it & know of it, and if any of ya can't handle the TRUTH, then it is YOUR issue & not mine.

OK. I am done with this now. Got other things to do...


I suggest... DO the RESEARCH & KNOW what you are talking about, before you talk about something.

YOU can Think or Believe as ya like, but not believing the Truth means you are believing a lie. Unless that is what ya want, then it is important to know the Truth of things. Not gonna get the Truth without doing the work/research to get to the bottom of things.

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2023, 05:06:16 AM »
I have to agree with the Colonel myself. I'm not condoning what he has to say about Russia but after 21 years myself in the military and spending 4 years in Germany I find he is not off the mark. I agree our military is in shambles, it has been for quite a while. I hope this doesn't make me sound like i am sold out to the communist party or not a red blooded American either. Frankly I don't understand how anyone could accuse anyone of that by simply having a clip of a Colonel saying what he believes. Maybe I am missing the point but I don't see it.

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2023, 08:40:36 AM »
  It seems to me that some of you don't understand why the Ruskies invaded Ukraine.

It goes back to 2014 when the Minsk Agreements were signed. The Ukrainians were trying to get the Russian- Ukrainians who spoke Russian, and were of Russian heritage, but were Ukrainian citizens by not only birth because their "provinces" were in the Ukraine, but also continued to raise their families in Ukraine instead of leaving. The area WAS Russian prior to the formation of the country of Ukraine. It is called "The Donbass" region.

The Ukrainians not of Russian descent in the rest of the country decided that those who lived in the Donbass should not continue to follow their Russian ancestry & traditions, as well as speaking mostly Russian, and convert to only speaking Ukrainian & forego their Russian traditions.

The Ukrainians started to use artillery to get the residents of the Donbass to change their ways. The Minsk Agreement was set up to have the Ukrainians stop shelling and harassing the folks in the Donbass.

Well, the shelling & harassment did NOT stop after the agreement was signed by all parties involved.

Thru the years since the agreement , many times over, the Russians went to the UN & other DIPLOMATIC means to try to get the Ukrainians to stop the harassment/shelling to no avail.

As well, NATO was trying to get Ukraine into the NATO. Which was NOT gonna happen as far a Russia was concerned.

( NOTE - The acceptance of Ukraine into NATO, and the resulting arming up of missile defenses & troops/equip right on the border with Russia was NOT going to happen. It is not unlike Russia putting missiles & troops/equip in Mexico or Canada, threatening the USA. Not unlike the Nuke missiles sent to Turkey in JFKs time & the resulting Cuban Missile Crisis that was "diplomatically" smoothed over. )

So, here is a situation in a little over a year ago that a fine line had been reached.

Russia was tired of the Ukrainians shelling the "Ethnic Russian Ukrainians, as well as they WERE NOT going to let NATO add another country RIGHT ON RUSSIA Borders to build up possible forces against Russia.

SO, the RUssians did everything legally according to the UN, and following the Minsk Agreement, and went into the Donbass to "absorb" it into Russia to protect the civilians there.

Well, Ukraine and other countries in Europe as well as the USA decided to help out Ukraine fight, rather than Diplomatically solving the issue. ( After about 7-8 years after the agreement & Many civilians killed by the Ukrainians themselves.)

Since the fighting started, there has been opportunities for Diplomatic solutions to the whole deal, but for some reason,   not just Europe but the USA pushed for a Military solution rather than a diplomatic one.

( and you likely can figure it out for yourselves why it was not solved diplomatically, Think MIC & the $$$$ that war makes for folks invested in MIC corps/companies, ;) )

Ya'll can think as ya like, but the above is basically the TRUTH & how things got to where they are today.

It didn't have to happen. Simple as that.

This telling of the truth does NOT make me a Pro Russia person, it is just that I am explaining the TRUTH.

I am just as, if not more Patriotic to the USA as anyone else, and served in the Corps, swore the Oaths more than once, and continue to do what I can to keep this country safe & defended, even though I am not longer active duty. Don't try togive me any crap about being a Russia/Putin fan or any of that BS. I am just callin it like I see it & know of it, and if any of ya can't handle the TRUTH, then it is YOUR issue & not mine.

OK. I am done with this now. Got other things to do...


I suggest... DO the RESEARCH & KNOW what you are talking about, before you talk about something.

YOU can Think or Believe as ya like, but not believing the Truth means you are believing a lie. Unless that is what ya want, then it is important to know the Truth of things. Not gonna get the Truth without doing the work/research to get to the bottom of things.

Regardless of what country one comes from , the Truth is the Truth.

 Certainly is. I think I understand the situation as well as anybody here, present company included. You have a Russian dictator, and a Ukrainian dictator, both equally corrupt going at each other at the expense of innocent civilians.
And as usual, you have a meddling United States/Mess trying to play god, just like they have been doing since the end of WWII.
We have no business over there militarily, or monetarily.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2023, 12:25:58 PM »
I don’t take marching orders from little d. Ignore me if ya like, I don’t have to ignore your insults...

You'd never get any insults from me if you'd leave me alone. But alas, thats beyond your limited scope of reasoning. ;)

More B.S. Talk about limited reasoning? More like manipulative B.S. which BTW. Cops are well trained in and generally work against those as dumb as they are...

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2023, 12:35:30 PM »
  It seems to me that some of you don't understand why the Ruskies invaded Ukraine.

It goes back to 2014 when the Minsk Agreements were signed. The Ukrainians were trying to get the Russian- Ukrainians who spoke Russian, and were of Russian heritage, but were Ukrainian citizens by not only birth because their "provinces" were in the Ukraine, but also continued to raise their families in Ukraine instead of leaving. The area WAS Russian prior to the formation of the country of Ukraine. It is called "The Donbass" region.

The Ukrainians not of Russian descent in the rest of the country decided that those who lived in the Donbass should not continue to follow their Russian ancestry & traditions, as well as speaking mostly Russian, and convert to only speaking Ukrainian & forego their Russian traditions.

The Ukrainians started to use artillery to get the residents of the Donbass to change their ways. The Minsk Agreement was set up to have the Ukrainians stop shelling and harassing the folks in the Donbass.

Well, the shelling & harassment did NOT stop after the agreement was signed by all parties involved.

Thru the years since the agreement , many times over, the Russians went to the UN & other DIPLOMATIC means to try to get the Ukrainians to stop the harassment/shelling to no avail.

As well, NATO was trying to get Ukraine into the NATO. Which was NOT gonna happen as far a Russia was concerned.

( NOTE - The acceptance of Ukraine into NATO, and the resulting arming up of missile defenses & troops/equip right on the border with Russia was NOT going to happen. It is not unlike Russia putting missiles & troops/equip in Mexico or Canada, threatening the USA. Not unlike the Nuke missiles sent to Turkey in JFKs time & the resulting Cuban Missile Crisis that was "diplomatically" smoothed over. )

So, here is a situation in a little over a year ago that a fine line had been reached.

Russia was tired of the Ukrainians shelling the "Ethnic Russian Ukrainians, as well as they WERE NOT going to let NATO add another country RIGHT ON RUSSIA Borders to build up possible forces against Russia.

SO, the RUssians did everything legally according to the UN, and following the Minsk Agreement, and went into the Donbass to "absorb" it into Russia to protect the civilians there.

Well, Ukraine and other countries in Europe as well as the USA decided to help out Ukraine fight, rather than Diplomatically solving the issue. ( After about 7-8 years after the agreement & Many civilians killed by the Ukrainians themselves.)

Since the fighting started, there has been opportunities for Diplomatic solutions to the whole deal, but for some reason,   not just Europe but the USA pushed for a Military solution rather than a diplomatic one.

( and you likely can figure it out for yourselves why it was not solved diplomatically, Think MIC & the $$$$ that war makes for folks invested in MIC corps/companies, ;) )

Ya'll can think as ya like, but the above is basically the TRUTH & how things got to where they are today.

It didn't have to happen. Simple as that.

This telling of the truth does NOT make me a Pro Russia person, it is just that I am explaining the TRUTH.

I am just as, if not more Patriotic to the USA as anyone else, and served in the Corps, swore the Oaths more than once, and continue to do what I can to keep this country safe & defended, even though I am not longer active duty. Don't try togive me any crap about being a Russia/Putin fan or any of that BS. I am just callin it like I see it & know of it, and if any of ya can't handle the TRUTH, then it is YOUR issue & not mine.

OK. I am done with this now. Got other things to do...


I suggest... DO the RESEARCH & KNOW what you are talking about, before you talk about something.

YOU can Think or Believe as ya like, but not believing the Truth means you are believing a lie. Unless that is what ya want, then it is important to know the Truth of things. Not gonna get the Truth without doing the work/research to get to the bottom of things.

Regardless of what country one comes from , the Truth is the Truth.

Well said... Semper fi.

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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2023, 02:59:42 PM »
The Bidden regime doesn't care about Ukraine, or how many people get killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMOhZnCJK7k
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2023, 03:10:53 PM »
The Bidden regime doesn't care about Ukraine, or how many people get killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMOhZnCJK7k

Obviously neither does Pootun or he wouldn't be hittin hospitals, schools, and towns, he'd be concentrated on military targets. Hes buddies up with China now, so things outta really get interestin.

Civilians are always the ones to pay.
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Re: Col MacGregor: Slo Joe will take the blame
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2023, 04:35:59 PM »
Sorry Bob, TM7 is not a red blooded American. He is totally sold out to the communist dictator of Russia and believes he can do no wrong.

He definitely does not represent the majority of American's views.

He damn sure is, and no he doesn't. And neither does his little equine sidekick.   ;)

Singin a different tune now that others are backing a different narrative? How very common... ;)