Lightning says; Ugh..me no like wind turbine..

[ironglow]

  Just another 'green energy" hazard...especially over hot, dry areas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHCaaSMPBnc

[Dee]

They're a scourge on the landscape. We're in drought and windmills catching on fire AIN'T that uncommon, and with them being where they are located rual volunteer fire departments aren't equipped to fight them. And they can do is try and stop the prairie fires they start.

[BUGEYE]

That was kinda purty at first, blowing them smoke rings. 

[gene_225]

Hmmm.... Didn't know that could happen. Maybe they need to make the blades of a different material.

[Dee]

Hmmm.... Didn't know that could happen. Maybe they need to make the blades of a different material.

You should see'em when the generator goes and catches on fire. No way to put it out, all they can do is fight the grass fires it starts, and they have to haul the water to do it.

[Dixie-Dude]

Some turbines are made from fiberglass, which will burn.  It was probably a lightning strike.  Some of the newer windmills are made out of aluminum, will last longer, and can be recycled.  The fiberglass ones cannot be recycled, and should be outlawed. 

Aluminum ore (bauxite) is more abundant in the world than iron ore and uses less energy to manufacture than iron.  This is one reason Ford was or is making an aluminum F-150.  It can use a smaller more efficient motor to do the same work.  Just don't put heavy sharp objects in the bed. 

[Dee]

Some turbines are made from fiberglass, which will burn.  It was probably a lightning strike.  Some of the newer windmills are made out of aluminum, will last longer, and can be recycled.  The fiberglass ones cannot be recycled, and should be outlawed. 

Aluminum ore (bauxite) is more abundant in the world than iron ore and uses less energy to manufacture than iron.  This is one reason Ford was or is making an aluminum F-150.  It can use a smaller more efficient motor to do the same work.  Just don't put heavy sharp objects in the bed. 

Aluminum burns hotter than fiberglass, which is why a truck tractor which has an aluminum body burns down to just the frame and engine if it's not put out in time.

https://www.reference.com/science/aluminum-burn-dbb0815b1a562d35

[Dixie-Dude]

Wouldn't aluminum ground out the lightning strike if the windmill tower was also metal?  Melting point of fiberglass is 675 degrees F and aluminum is 1220 degrees F, almost twice as hot.  I know neither is perfect, but at least aluminum can be melted down and recycled while fiberglass can't.  Either that or a lightning rod should extend above the propellers to ground out lightning strikes. 

NASA has lightning towers next to launch pads to keep a rocket with hundreds of tons of fuel from being struck by lightning. 

[Casull]

Some turbines are made from fiberglass, which will burn.  It was probably a lightning strike.  Some of the newer windmills are made out of aluminum, will last longer, and can be recycled.  The fiberglass ones cannot be recycled, and should be outlawed. 

Aluminum ore (bauxite) is more abundant in the world than iron ore and uses less energy to manufacture than iron.  This is one reason Ford was or is making an aluminum F-150.  It can use a smaller more efficient motor to do the same work.  Just don't put heavy sharp objects in the bed.

If that is so, then why is aluminum so much more expensive than steel?

[Lloyd Smale]

according to what i found only 10-15 percent of them are fiberglass and only 2 percent are aluminum. The majority are made out of steel.  i do agree that they are a real eye sore.

[Dixie-Dude]

Today, America gets all of it's steel or iron from car junkyards.  Cars today have less steel, but cars of old had a lot of steel.  So we are not actively mining iron ore.  Also, every year they scrap old ships.  Lots more steel there.

Aluminum recycling is not what it should be, cans, other scrap aluminum, but not as much.  Planes have the most aluminum in them, but a 747 can last 50 years with new or rebuilt engines, so they aren't scrapped as fast as cars and old ships.  Also, most aluminum ore has to be mined, melted, slag separated out, etc, to finally get to the scrap aluminum. 

As far as the windmill catching on fire, it could have been a lighting strike and caught the gear oil on fire. 

[ironglow]

Some metals burn very fast. Remember those movies of WW2planes burning up before they hit the ground?
  Sure, this video is computer generated, but they sure burned up like that.
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COC1CZlXWCc

  Then there are those magnesium flares we used to spot enemy infiltrators..they burned with a very bright
  and white light..  Lighting up the ground for hundreds of yards..

[Dee]

Today, America gets all of it's steel or iron from car junkyards.  Cars today have less steel, but cars of old had a lot of steel.  So we are not actively mining iron ore.  Also, every year they scrap old ships.  Lots more steel there.

Aluminum recycling is not what it should be, cans, other scrap aluminum, but not as much.  Planes have the most aluminum in them, but a 747 can last 50 years with new or rebuilt engines, so they aren't scrapped as fast as cars and old ships.  Also, most aluminum ore has to be mined, melted, slag separated out, etc, to finally get to the scrap aluminum. 

As far as the windmill catching on fire, it could have been a lighting strike and caught the gear oil on fire.

Does it really matter how the fire started? They grossly affect the local environment when they burn off several hundred, and in some cases, several thousand acres of grazing, or ready to harvest grain if its farm land, which it seldom is.

[Dixie-Dude]

I have seen windmills in Illinois and there was a lot of corn planted under them.  The base doesn't take up that much space.  I still like solar panels over parking lots to shade them, and on top of flat top buildings. 

[phalanx]

I have seen windmills in Illinois and there was a lot of corn planted under them.  The base doesn't take up that much space.  I still like solar panels over parking lots to shade them, and on top of flat top buildings.

Hail can really bust them up.

[Dixie-Dude]

Sounds like they need to make the blades from sheet steel.  Thin enough to be lightweight, thick enough to avoid hail damage.  Someone found out if they paint the tips black it scares birds away so they don't get killed.  Also seems like offshore windmills may be better, except for the sea gulls.  The are going to build a large offshore wind farm off the coasts of Texas and Louisiana.  When finished they can provide power for 800,000 homes, mostly the Houston area.  What happens when a CAT 4 or 5 hurricane comes?  Will they be able to fold up and ride it out.  Some have props that can turn straight into the wind and not turn during high speed winds.  Low wind or no wind, they can't produce anything. 

[orerancher]

Low Wind,No Wind, High Wind....They Don't Produce......

[guzzijohn]

From phalanx:

Hail can really bust them up.

My solar panels at our previous home survived a hail storm with two inch hail and wind unscathed. My house roof with composite shingles was totaled.
If they would have been damaged my homeowners insurance would have covered it just like my roof was.
GuzziJohn

[ironglow]

From phalanx:

Hail can really bust them up.

My solar panels at our previous home survived a hail storm with two inch hail and wind unscathed. My house roof with composite shingles was totaled.
If they would have been damaged my homeowners insurance would have covered it just like my roof was.
GuzziJohn

   ...And all this would be unnecessary, if the leftist/communists would quit lying about "climate change"..

[guzzijohn]

From ironglow:

..And all this would be unnecessary, if the leftist/communists would quit lying about "climate change"..

What would be unnecessary?
GuzziJohn

[billy_56081]

From phalanx:

Hail can really bust them up.

My solar panels at our previous home survived a hail storm with two inch hail and wind unscathed. My house roof with composite shingles was totaled.
If they would have been damaged my homeowners insurance would have covered it just like my roof was.
GuzziJohn

Sure they did liar.

[Lloyd Smale]

paying higher utility bills because electric companys are forced to put in wind and solar that costs them money instead of making them money. So in fact all of us pay for it like that or pay for it with our tax money thats given to people wealthy enough to be able to put solar panels on there roof. Its all just more of the working class paying the bill for the people with more money and the liberal idiots that force us to waste money on a technology that were not ready for. Its about like going back to 1900 and passing a law that no farmer can use a horse anymore and must use a tractor. Even though most of them cant afford it and theres not enough gasoline or diesel around to power them. or tell that famer that he can no longer heat his home with wood and must use fuel oil. The biggest thing thats unnecessary is the government forcing laws down our throats, forcing us to obey when they have no authority to do so. Telling us what kind of car we have to drive. What kind of kitchen range we have to buy and how we must heat or homes. The real comical thing is they have the economy tanking and this country in the economic shape since the depression. They have split the country in half more then anytime since the civil war. All this going on and still there #1 concern is a few far left hippies screaming climate change. Why? because those idiots,and anyone who defends this bs is one of those idiots, are the only ones left that will vote for them other then so lesbians screaming abortion rights and some blm rioters, some waco teachers that would rather teach sex ed then math and some college girls from the frat house. That is whats left of your democratic party. 

From ironglow:

..And all this would be unnecessary, if the leftist/communists would quit lying about "climate change"..

What would be unnecessary?
GuzziJohn

[Lloyd Smale]

you must have taking some pictures of the tore up roof and the unscathed solar panels on it.

From phalanx:

Hail can really bust them up.

My solar panels at our previous home survived a hail storm with two inch hail and wind unscathed. My house roof with composite shingles was totaled.
If they would have been damaged my homeowners insurance would have covered it just like my roof was.
GuzziJohn

[Dee]

He got'em with a government grant some time back Lloyd. They didn't cost him anything. They upped the value of  the "inherited place", which he then sold.

[ironglow]

  Government grants..a wonderful governmental "control device".  Get folks to do your will, by giving them other folks money..
 
 “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
  (Maggie Thatcher)

[guzzijohn]

My panels were not on the house but on the metal roof of my garage.
GuzziJohn

[billy_56081]

My panels were not on the house but on the metal roof of my garage.
GuzziJohn

Mmmm hmmm right, you are a liar.

[Mule 11]

My panels were not on the house but on the metal roof of my garage.
GuzziJohn

Mmmm hmmm right, you are a liar.

How can you tell when a leftist is lying?

[Graybeard]

When their mouth is moving.

[Lloyd Smale]

He got'em with a government grant some time back Lloyd. They didn't cost him anything. They upped the value of  the "inherited place", which he then sold.

just call it welfare for the wealthy. He didnt buy them. He had people working road construction, guys busting there ass working in the woods, carpenters, laborers ect buy them for him. Guys that can barely afford gas or food today. While he gets them free and sits in the garage with his dockers and penny loafers on polishing that gay motorcycle he owns. That was probably bought with money from mommy.