China Launches The Fujian, Its Most Capable Aircraft Carrier Yet

[Bob Riebe]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/china-launches-the-fujian-its-most-capable-aircraft-carrier-yet

[BUGEYE]

Did they turn it into a floating storage ship??
If not, what’s those buildings on the deck??

[ironglow]

Did they turn it into a floating storage ship??
If not, what’s those buildings on the deck??

  It's an aircraft carrier...there are toy planes in those shipping boxes..and they are carrying the toy planes to places like Euripe, the US and South america...

  Seriously, I think the operative term in that headline is "it's"...As in..... IT'S most capable aircraft carrirer..

[Bob Riebe]

They are still working on the catapults. it is years away from service.

Significantly, both the Type 001 and 002 are equipped for short takeoff but arrested recovery, or STOBAR, operations. This involves launching fixed-wing aircraft with the aid of a ‘ski-jump’ ramp on the bow and then recovering them using arrester wires.

The Type 003, however, has no bow ramp and instead marks the PLAN’s switch to catapult-assisted takeoff but arrested recovery, or CATOBAR, operations. While recovery is the same, CATOBAR carriers employ catapults to launch fixed-wing aircraft, allowing them to take off with much heavier fuel and weapons loads. In addition, CATOBAR vessels can support a wider range of aircraft types, including heavier and slower non-fighter designs like the KJ-600 carrier radar plane now in development. Currently, only the United States and France operate carriers of this kind.

This fact make what the Brits did with their two new carrier rather obtuse, going with ramps rather than catapults.

[ironglow]

  Yes, that immediately raised the question of the missing "ski jump'.  It seems more nations use the jump than not..The UK, Russia, China, India and others.
 The US seems almost alone in that catapult type launch.  I wonder but what that isn't a result of our carriers being nuclear powered, since those are steam catapults, and steam is an easy by product of nuclear power.

  Does that tell us something further about the new Chinese carrier?

  I wouldn't be surprised, were somebody (DARPA maybe?) to come up with a magnetic launch system, being as they have magnetic artillery now, fired by progressive magnetic impulses.

[BUGEYE]

This fact make what the Brits did with their two new carrier rather obtuse, going with ramps rather than catapults.

Isn’t their use of ramps because their Harriers don’t need catapults??

[ironglow]

This fact make what the Brits did with their two new carrier rather obtuse, going with ramps rather than catapults.

Isn’t their use of ramps because their Harriers don’t need catapults??

  From what I read, th ejumps are to make up for the abscence of the catapult.  During WW2 our lighter, prop driven planes didn't need as long a takeoff deck. With current jet fighters, a longer take off plan is required.

  TheHellcat, primary Navy fighter of WW2 weighed 9,000 lbs

 Today's prime Navy fighter, the F18 weighs 32,000 lbs.

 

[Bob Riebe]

But it greatly reduces load and range of the aircraft.

[ironglow]

But it greatly reduces load and range.

  Sorry; what does? What are you referring to?

[oldandslow]

And this is all made possible by China being given "most favored" nation status.   

[ironglow]

And this is all made possible by China being given "most favored" nation status.   

  ..And 'hank you..Clinton cartel !

[Bob Riebe]

But it greatly reduces load and range.

  Sorry; what does? What are you referring to?

Ski jump launch system.

[Bob Riebe]

It's built on an old oil tanker hull, isn't it?
Most any country of some means could build a make do carrier on old oil tanker hull, if they went ski jump designs.

No it is ground up new build; their first aircraft carrier was an abandoned Russian project they finished and their second one was ground up built on the specs. of the Russian carrier.

Like it or not, they are all the real deal and Chinese are good at using other countries tech. and making it work. (Except jet engines where there are still behind the eight-ball due to lack of knowledge of advance metallurgy and neither the U.S. or Russia was foolish enough to give it to them.