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Why did the Russian army...?
« on: June 01, 2022, 11:07:16 AM »
  Why, during their planned 36 hour takeover of the Ukraine, did the Russian army..run out of fuel,
  have shredded tires and need to use makeshift civilian GPS units?

  I suspected this conclusion, when on that first day..Russian units ground to a halt !  Never stop in large batches... whether armor, transport or infantry, you become "sitting ducks".
   
      Well, here is one explanation...and when we see so many billionaires including Vlad Putin, residing in Russia since the USSR breakup... this video makes more sense than ever.

   Judging by some high placed politicians, we Amerivcans had better vote wisely, or something could spread to our military...which would also be catastrophic.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2022, 04:09:39 PM »
If you look outside the MSM you will find whether you like it or not, Russia is winning.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2022, 12:42:39 AM »
Obviously, you did not view the video, or you would have noticed ...   1)  It is not  MSM...  2) The video only makes good sense.

    Perhaps you can help us understand why you are so strongly rooting for the attacker.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2022, 01:07:42 AM »
He is not “ rooting for the attacker “ so, if I say the criminal aliens storming our borders are winning than by your standards I must be “ rooting for them “ What he is saying is that you are being lied to.

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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2022, 01:10:42 AM »
The criminal border jumpers crossing our southern border are winning, with political, and financial aid coming from the Biden regime up north.  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2022, 01:14:33 AM »
Everything the biden regime has done has been a wrecking ball. Nobody is that dumb, it is intentional.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2022, 11:38:06 AM »
The criminal border jumpers crossing our southern border are winning, with political, and financial aid coming from the Biden regime up north.  ;)
I know they are winning. The point being that if I say they are winning (which is true) by I. G’s standard I must be supporting them, which I’m not.

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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2022, 01:49:17 PM »
  Russia may or may not be winning, but one thiing has been made clear;  Putin's Russia is not the super power he has boasted them to be.
    His admitted aim was a 36 hour victory...and he is still struggling some 3+ months later!
       "some chicken..some neck." (Winston Churchill)

  In 1967, Israel kicked the butts of 3 or 4 Arab nations, in just  six days..

  In the Gulf war Saddam's 4th largest army in the world..was primarily crushed in 100 hours,
   although it was more like 42 days before the coalition said 'OK..enough'..

   Now Putin has been puddling around in the Ukraine for 3+ months, after planning a quick, 36 hour victory.

  When Saddam started another fight..our tanks entered Baghdad , probably in under 100 hours, although it was months later before they yanked Saddam out of his 'spider hole'.

  No, by his performance in Ukraine, the big, bad Grizzly bear, looks more like a Koala bear!

  ..And Koala bears arerunning around much of the time..half cocked on eucalyptus leaves.. :D  ;D
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2022, 02:14:15 PM »
  Russia may or may not be winning, but one thiing has been made clear;  Putin's Russia is not the super power he has boasted them to be.
    His admitted aim was a 36 hour victory...and he is still struggling some 3+ months later!
       "some chicken..some neck." (Winston Churchill)

  In 1967, Israel kicked the butts of 3 or 4 Arab nations, in just  six days..

  In the Gulf war Saddam's 4th largest army in the world..was primarily crushed in 100 hours,
   although it was more like 42 days before the coalition said 'OK..enough'..

   Now Putin has been puddling around in the Ukraine for 3+ months, after planning a quick, 36 hour victory.

  When Saddam started another fight..our tanks entered Baghdad , probably in under 100 hours, although it was months later before they yanked Saddam out of his 'spider hole'.

  No, by his performance in Ukraine, the big, bad Grizzly bear, looks more like a Koala bear!

  ..And Koala bears arerunning around much of the time..half cocked on eucalyptus leaves.. :D  ;D
Old Vlad did underestimate Ukraine, but enough killing of civilians, the CIA needs to take him out, or if they are too scared to do it, pay the Mossad to do the job.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2022, 04:37:31 PM »
IG....... I  never saw where the Russians said this was a 3 day operation..Maybe only if Zelenskyy capitulated and came to his senses.    Do you have a link on that assertion?
 But since Zelenskyy is a NATO and Washington meat puppet, he takes his orders from those Globalist and billions in aid and futile war drags on.. So the conflict goes on and on, with Russia finally saying this is a war, WW3, against the Globalist West. And they are all in. Including nukes.
In your cavalcade of quickie American wars, you forgot to mention  Vietnam which dragged on for years and years, then ended unceremoniously; as did Afghanistan after 20 years.
And after spending over 50 billion dollars on a useless war to support Nazi Globalist, and wreckingthe world economy bringing on famine, risking nuclear war Biden and his coterie of new found so-called conservatives want to continue this war  because they're  Russophobes.. Meanwhile,  the Russians claim they're into it for less then a 100 million US dollars so far, and their economy being mostly self-sufficient is doing rather well. Way to go Joebama and and your new found conservative comrades! Way to go!
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2022, 03:51:52 AM »
IG....... I  never saw where the Russians said this was a 3 day operation..
   Perhaps it was planned for less than 3 days...because their assaulting forces ran dry of fuel  on the first day.

   Maybe only if Zelenskyy capitulated and came to his senses. Shouild we have come to our senses and capitulated to Stalin or Kruschev during the cold war?   Do you have a link on that assertion?
 But since Zelenskyy is a NATO and Washington meat puppet, he takes his orders from those Globalist and billions in aid and futile war drags on..  Granted, the democrtas and the sock puppet are globalists, but that doesn't mean Putin is God's "angel of peace" answer..  Our situation is is, that we should be aware that while fighting the dragon, the bear will grab us from behind.
  So the conflict goes on and on, with Russia finally saying this is a war, WW3, against the Globalist West. And they are all in. Including nukes.The devil is not averse to using ANY weapon.
In your cavalcade of quickie American wars, you forgot to mention  Vietnam which dragged on for years and years, then ended unceremoniously; as did Afghanistan after 20 years. Those wars could have been settled sooner...and remember, I am not in favor of the globalists either...who extended those wars

And after spending over 50 billion dollars on a useless war to support Nazi Globalist, and wreckingthe world economy bringing on famine,We have 2 devil inspired forces, which are trying to put free people in slavery, both inspired by Marxism.  Satan will be happy, no matter which one prevails..they are both his dogs !
 risking nuclear war Biden and his coterie of new found so-called conservatives want to continue this war  because they're  Russophobes.. Funny, isn't it , how Joe and Vlad are working in concert...Joe cuts our oil production...so Vlad can sell more oil..
  Meanwhile,  the Russians claim they're into it for less then a 100 million US dollars so far, and their economy being mostly self-sufficient is doing rather well. Way to go Joebama and and your new found conservative comrades! Way to go!  Can you consider that we the people are fighting two enemies...both wanting to enslave us..for Satan?
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2022, 09:07:50 AM »
TM7, why are you such a Russia fanboy? Are you sure you aren't a Russian operative?

I take no position at all on this little war going on over there, at least I guess there is a war going on, since I've not been there and since the media lie to us so much I guess I'm really not sure it's even real.

But not everyone who is against an invasion of another country is part of this great nazi conspiracy of yours. You seem to see a nazi behind every bush and in every post. You got it bad.


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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2022, 11:04:47 AM »
TM7, why are you such a Russia fanboy? Are you sure you aren't a Russian operative?

I take no position at all on this little war going on over there, at least I guess there is a war going on, since I've not been there and since the media lie to us so much I guess I'm really not sure it's even real.

But not everyone who is against an invasion of another country is part of this great nazi conspiracy of yours. You seem to see a nazi behind every bush and in every post. You got it bad.

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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2022, 12:54:30 PM »
TM7, why are you such a Russia fanboy? Are you sure you aren't a Russian operative?

I take no position at all on this little war going on over there, at least I guess there is a war going on, since I've not been there and since the media lie to us so much I guess I'm really not sure it's even real.

But not everyone who is against an invasion of another country is part of this great nazi conspiracy of yours. You seem to see a nazi behind every bush and in every post. You got it bad.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2022, 02:03:15 PM »
Bugeye......
Be careful with the propaganda. Russians have taken pains to minimize civilian casualties. But NATO advisors tell Ukraine army and Azov Nazi brigades to hide among civilians because they can not encounter the Russians on the battlefield lest they be destroyed. This was shown in the Avozstral steel plant siege where the Ukrainians hid behind human shields.

Remember the people producing this war propaganda and supporting neo-Nazies are the very same Globalists that insist on endless abortion, trans-gendering children, giving experimental gene vaxxines to babies and tots. And the same cabal that left billions of dollars of weapons in Afghanistan, and now sending 53 billion dollars of weapons to Ukrainian neo-Nazi regime while disarming us and hiding baby formula from American babies.

Just remember that next time you're cheering on Biden's proxy war to coverup his and American crimes in Ukraine.
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I believe that is exactly right. I'm no lover of Russia, but I can decipher the truth, by getting news from different sources that don't include Fox news or any of the other news stations.  Contrary to what the belief is russians have done what they can to minimize civilian casualties. Does someone have to be a Russia supporter to believe that???  What I can't believe is all the Americans that are okay with all the money and weapons we are sending over there, that will do nothing to change a defeated Ukraine.  If you are in support of the Biden regime sending 53 billion to ukraine, You are a supporter and in agreement with the biden regime. For some of us there is nothing at all we are in agreement with what Biden is doing and what they have done. 
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2022, 02:17:27 PM »
Bugeye......
Be careful with the propaganda. Russians have taken pains to minimize civilian casualties. But NATO advisors tell Ukraine army and Azov Nazi brigades to hide among civilians because they can not encounter the Russians on the battlefield lest they be destroyed. This was shown in the Avozstral steel plant siege where the Ukrainians hid behind human shields.

Remember the people producing this war propaganda and supporting neo-Nazies are the very same Globalists that insist on endless abortion, trans-gendering children, giving experimental gene vaxxines to babies and tots. And the same cabal that left billions of dollars of weapons in Afghanistan, and now sending 53 billion dollars of weapons to Ukrainian neo-Nazi regime while disarming us and hiding baby formula from American babies.

Just remember that next time you're cheering on Biden's proxy war to coverup his and American crimes in Ukraine.
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I believe that is exactly right. I'm no lover of Russia, but I can decipher the truth, by getting news from different sources that don't include Fox news or any of the other news stations.  Contrary to what the belief is russians have done what they can to minimize civilian casualties. Does someone have to be a Russia supporter to believe that???  What I can't believe is all the Americans that are okay with all the money and weapons we are sending over there, that will do nothing to change a defeated Ukraine.  If you are in support of the Biden regime sending 53 billion to ukraine, You are a supporter and in agreement with the biden regime. For some of us there is nothing at all we are in agreement with what Biden is doing and what they have done.

Come on man... everything the biden regime has done has been to destroy our great nation... errr, except this one and only thing, you just can’t see it...

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2022, 05:08:51 PM »
I don't support any thing Biden has ever done or ever will do in his life time. I don't support sending money or aid to Ukraine, it's not our fight if there really is a fight going on.

It's Europe's problem, not ours, let them work it out.

I'm ambivalent about Russia. I don't see why we should consider them an enemy or why they should consider us one. We have more in common than different with them other than their form of government. I truly don't see why we can't learn to get along with them as well as we do with some of our "friends" who are no better than Russia.

But you are sounding like a true Russia fanboy in your posts. You seem to think they can do no wrong. I totally disagree with your logic on the Donbass region and the folks living there.

Those folks are Ukraine's, like it or not. IF they don't like it then move, no one is holding them there. Just because some of your citizens chose to live in another country does not give any country the right to attack that country over their treatment. If Russia is so concerned them let them pay to move them back to Russia. I bet most would not want to do so.


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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2022, 03:04:44 AM »
IG......you can mince this anyway a Russo-phobe wants to. But Putin and modern Christian Russia has never done anything to me.

Why you want to be a surrogate supporter of fake
President Joebama, cokehead Zelenskyy, deep state corruptocrats, neo-Naxies and perpetual war is beyond me. Beyond comprehension especially since our own country and Western society is rapidly decaying.
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   Th egrand poobah of the Russian orthodox church, is nothing but a poop boy for Putin!  He has aligned his church leadership with the dictator.

     https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/21/world/europe/kirill-putin-russian-orthodox-church.html

   https://time.com/6167332/putin-russian-orthodox-church-war-ukraine/

   BTW:  ..Nothing "orthodox' about him either..
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2022, 03:53:20 AM »
Russia is seeming to get what it wants out of this war. They are gaining territory and linking Crimea with Russia. Also the big thing is, they are getting NATO tech and weapons. They are capturing huge amount of NATO weapons from the Ukraine. They are also seeing the effects of these weapons on their tanks and airplanes which will allow the to design countermeasures. I would imagine China is also being given this information.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2022, 03:57:48 AM »
IG......you can mince this anyway a Russo-phobe wants to. But Putin and modern Christian Russia has never done anything to me.

Why you want to be a surrogate supporter of fake
President Joebama, cokehead Zelenskyy, deep state corruptocrats, neo-Naxies and perpetual war is beyond me. Beyond comprehension especially since our own country and Western society is rapidly decaying.
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   Th egrand poobah of the Russian orthodox church, is nothing but a poop boy for Putin!  He has aligned his church leadership with the dictator.

     https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/21/world/europe/kirill-putin-russian-orthodox-church.html

   https://time.com/6167332/putin-russian-orthodox-church-war-ukraine/

   BTW:  ..Nothing "orthodox' about him either..
Mark my words, if we don't eliminate the communists in this country we'll have a state church, IF we have a Church at all.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2022, 04:04:20 AM »
the only bright spot in this fiasco is that Putin is hell bound.

Wow! I prefer a Biblical Christian approach, in that NOBODY would go to Hell.

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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2022, 08:34:34 AM »
the only bright spot in this fiasco is that Putin is hell bound.

Wow! I prefer a Biblical Christian approach, in that NOBODY would go to Hell.

https://christianity.com/how-do-I-spread-the-message/praying-for-the-lost-11531723.html
I have said many, many times that I don't want to see anyone go to hell.
But some people are blatant in their sins (Putin) and unless they change their ways they are goners.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to read the Bible and figure what is a sin and what isn't.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2022, 08:44:33 AM »
the only bright spot in this fiasco is that Putin is hell bound.

Wow! I prefer a Biblical Christian approach, in that NOBODY would go to Hell.

https://christianity.com/how-do-I-spread-the-message/praying-for-the-lost-11531723.html
I have said many, many times that I don't want to see anyone go to hell.
But some people are blatant in their sins (Putin) and unless they change their ways they are goners.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to read the Bible and figure what is a sin and what isn't.
I even pray for Biden, so quit with your "Holier Than Thou."

Me? Holier than "THOU"?  I don't think that's possible.  :-\ You said that one that Pootun was going to Hell, and in your opinion that it was "A BRIGHT SPOT".

I just disagreed with you. As a believer, i don't want anybody to go to Hell.

I'm actually surprised that you know Pootun is going to Hell. Guess I missed that announcement.  :-\
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2022, 09:52:22 AM »
  From TM;

    " IG......you can mince this anyway a Russo-phobe wants to. But Putin and modern Christian Russia has never done anything to me."
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   Adolph Hitler and the REAL Nazis never did anything to me either...but that doesn't mean he was a nice guy that would never hurt anybody else..
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2022, 10:03:30 AM »
  From TM;

    " IG......you can mince this anyway a Russo-phobe wants to. But Putin and modern Christian Russia has never done anything to me."
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   Adolph Hitler and the REAL Nazis never did anything to me either...but that doesn't mean he was a nice guy that would never hurt anybody else..

Hey! The Bush patriarch Prescott Bush really liked Hitler.  ;D
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2022, 02:17:41 PM »
It was about, supposedly , the Donbas part of the Ukraine that strongly favored being part of Russian; an area smaller than Texas.
Putin did not go into the the Donbas but instead attacked Kiev and other areas outside the Donbas; Puting either mis-calculated or is like Biden an old man with failing health and mental functions.

That is why it is a cluster f for Russia.

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« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2022, 01:27:01 AM »
  ..Back to the OP..

  The OP was an explanation of why the Russian invasion has been slow in progress, and suffering mysterious delays.  The same could hbegin happening to our military if the leftist appointed "woke" generals have their way.

  I doubt the Putin protectors here even looked at the video, even though it is very informative,
  Whether one watches all or part of it.

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« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2022, 02:21:14 AM »
BR...

Actually, for along time the two break away Republics of Donesk and Lugansk begged Russia to come to their aid after 8 years of terror. Just as some strategically posted Austrian folks asked Hitler to 'rescue' them in 1939.
With Minsk Agreements 1 and 2 ignored by Kiev, and Zelenskyy placing 100,000+ Nazi led troops to storm and cleanse the Donbas region, the Russians had no choice but to take action to save Russian lives and citizens. And note, Zelenskyy the wealthiest actor on earth, ..Along with Putin the wealthiest dictator..and possibly th ewealthiest man on earth... ran on a platform of peace and cooperation with Russia; but shortly after being placed in power eliminated all opposition parties and started brutal attacks on Donbas with his neo-Nazi controlled army and Western support.
Militarily Russia had to attack the Zelenskyy and NATO regime to assure success. Now that the West is underwriting to prolong the conflict I assume Russian strategy has changed to destroy Ukraine in total.
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   I keep wondering where all those Nazis have been since 1945...have they been hiding in a 'time warp' somewhere?
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2022, 02:40:00 AM »
  ..Back to the OP..

  The OP was an explanation of why the Russian invasion has been slow in progress, and suffering mysterious delays.  The same could hbegin happening to our military if the leftist appointed "woke" generals have their way.

  I doubt the Putin protectors here even looked at the video, even though it is very informative,
  Whether one watches all or part of it.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4
Interesting youtube, a good explanation of Russias military.
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Re: Why did the Russian army...?
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2022, 09:59:11 AM »
And IG,
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IMMEDIATELY!
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