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Winning, winning, won..,. According to this..
« on: March 31, 2022, 12:34:31 AM »
.... according to this G2 analyst the Russians never intended to occupy Ukraine, and have won the conflict. And won the economic war with the West and NWO.
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According to this G2 military analyst the Russians are winning, winning, won the war. It's over. The WEF and the West lost. And lost the economic war, too. And the USA has never fought a war on this scale or type.
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https://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-is-succeeding-wildly-in-its-objectives-scott-ritter-on-the-war-in-ukraine/5775864
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2022, 02:08:41 AM »
  Good "face saving" statement, at least.
  ..Butthat is good !  Because Putin can now bow out gracefully..

  Now..how he will pay for the rebuilding and lives lost due to his "adventure"...
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2022, 02:29:00 AM »
Im sure there will be some calling this a conspiracy theory because its not what CNN is saying.  What the Marxist news networks what you to believe is that Ukraine is winning or holding its own.  It will become to be known that Putin is smarter than Biden, and those that are telling Biden what to do.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2022, 03:13:29 AM »
  Good "face saving" statement, at least.
  ..Butthat is good !  Because Putin can now bow out gracefully..

  Now..how he will pay for the rebuilding and lives lost due to his "adventure"...

I don't believe he is type of person to give a single thought to either of those things. The one's affected are going to be on their own.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2022, 03:32:36 AM »
  Good "face saving" statement, at least.
  ..Butthat is good !  Because Putin can now bow out gracefully..

  Now..how he will pay for the rebuilding and lives lost due to his "adventure"...

I don't believe he is type of person to give a single thought to either of those things. The one's affected are going to be on their own.

Agreed.  The end justifies the means. Biden instigated our southern border invasion without acare in the world as to what it would do to the border state populations.
He thinks he'll get more voters, but the old sob won't live that long to enjoy the benefits if it were true.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2022, 01:36:42 PM »
Yep a few thousand dead, no real gain, so walk away, they like to copy the U.S.

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2022, 03:47:15 AM »
I see Scott Ritter is out of jail.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2022, 04:42:13 AM »
Russia has won?? Someone forgot to tell the Ukrainians.

Good to hear the author, Scott Ritter is out of jail and landed a job with the Huffington Post.

https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Ritter-gets-prison-time-2237126.php

Question Ritters credibility with his assertion. “They are advancing at a rate faster than the German army advanced during the Blitzkrieg of World War II!”

Anyone believe that? Perhaps he forgot Germany conquered Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg and France in 6 weeks.

Not a bold prediction to forecast Goliath stomps David but very much inaccurate at this time.

If Russia takes Ukraine, they will have inherited a resistance unlike any other and find themselves in a much deeper quagmire then Afghanistan.

As to Russian occupation. Hard to install a puppet Govt and demilitarization without one.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2022, 12:45:16 AM »
I think Ritter was referring to Hitler's advance Eastward thru Russia.
I'm not so sure their objective is to defeat and occupy Ukraine; but have more specific objectives, than they may turn around and go home.
Putin is a trained attorney, and I think they have collected enough information to shock the world on  Ukraine corruption and up end the WEF globalists.
They have already presented some of this info in the UN _ _ not covered in MSM of course, but collobarated on Hunter's laptop and other documentation.
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I can't find any documentation of Putin possessing a law degree, and I can't find any documentation  of Hunters laptop containing any evidence collaboration with Putins' claims,  or it being presented to that unless money sucking bureaucracy known as the United Nations.

I can find evidence that Putin underestimated the Ukrainian will to resist, and the brilliance of Putins' ability as a leader to be a myth.

He's a war criminal plain and simple, and a failing bully on display to the world.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2022, 03:32:37 AM »
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I can't find any documentation of Putin possessing a law degree,
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Putin is a thug. He was a thug in the KGB and is a thug now.

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2022, 03:53:48 AM »
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I can't find any documentation of Putin possessing a law degree,
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Putin is a thug. He was a thug in the KGB and is a thug now.

There are a lot of world leaders that are thugs. Putin is one of the better-known thugs of the world, and I find it odd that some folks haven't picked up on that fact.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2022, 04:32:52 AM »
more likely 70 percent because if you claim you dont like him you die or get sent away.
In 1975, he graduated from the Leningrad State University with a law degree before becoming an officer in the KGB, where he rose to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel during his 16 years of service. That's easy to find.
At the end of Boris Yeltsin's reign of oligarchs and making a mess of Russia emerging from communist authoritarian state, Putin rose to leader of new Russia.
Today he has some where around 70 to 90% approval rating among Russians thanx to the NATO-WEF proxy war on Russia to bleed Russia dry.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2022, 04:49:33 AM »
Putin made a speech last summer claiming Ukraine was part of Russia.  Yes they have the same basic heritage.  However during most of the middle ages, Ukraine, Lithuania, and Polan were under one kingdom, and waged war on Russia a few times.  Russia, Prussia, and Austria-Hungary over a few hundred years finally broke this kingdom up and occupied the territory.  Anyway, Putin thought because they were part of the USSR and the Russian Empire, he could waltz right in and take it without firing a shot.  Ukraine has been becoming more westernized with more freedoms and money.  The people did not want to be under Russia again.  I saw where Ukraine blew up a retreating Russian truck and it was filled with washing machines they had stolen.  Putin is just another thug in a long line of Russian thugs.  They need a better system of government and break up the big oligarth controlled companies of Russia to make it more capitalist.  The same thing needs to happen here in the US.  Facebook, Google, Apple and Microsoft should be broken up.  Back in the 1980's the government though about breaking up Microsoft into two companies, the operating system company and the software company.  Apple could be broken up into the phone company and the computer company.  Google and Facebook own several smaller companies, like snapchat, instagram, etc.  These companies have too much liberal control and influence.  Twitter, also, should be regulated to allow free speech.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2022, 06:45:57 AM »
DD.... actually Ukraine, Crimea, southern Russia was part of Khazaria empire run by euro-mongol Ashkenazi and enemies of Russians from the start. These Khazaria/Ashkenazi took to Nazism like a duck to water, even shocking Hitler and his Ukrainian field marshall, Gen Frelund, who's granddaughter Chrystia, ended up as Deputy Prime Minister of Canada and sits on the board of the WEF; and is a stalwart neo-Nazi Ukrainian Banderas supporter. Interesting to note the Ashkenazi in Israel, i.e. Likud, refer to Kiev as
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I can't find any documentation of Putin possessing a law degree,
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Putin is a thug. He was a thug in the KGB and is a thug now.

Actually DG, I am shocked that you would make such a blanket statement. Afterall, you're the guy at the vanguard of critical analysis thinking _ _ always recommending gathering of all facts, motives, and data applied in critical analysis.
Remember? I'm sure you do. And I am sure you know most all what we are getting from legacy media outlets is wholely designed to promote the elite PTB agenda, and shutter down any Russian evidence of bioweapons attacks, clandestine NATO operations in Ukraine,  trafficking, Biden/Hunter/Demoncrat corruption operations, even Plandemic run from Ukraine.
You wouldn't do that, right?
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Well if he graduated from Law School in Leningrad he certainly didn't learn much, because he blatantly violated international law, by invading a sovereign country.

So he's either ignorant of the law, and didn't learn anything, or he's the POS thug that most of the world sees him as.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2022, 08:02:08 AM »
With the documented war crimes Putin has committed juzt so far in the Ukraine, he'd be a fool (which he already is) to try and justify what he has done to the Ukrainian civilian population in front of the United Nations.

He's in the hole now, and just keeps diggin.
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2022, 08:40:42 PM »
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And I am sure you know most all what we are getting from legacy media outlets is wholely designed to promote the elite PTB agenda, and shutter down any Russian evidence of bioweapons attacks, clandestine NATO operations in Ukraine,  trafficking, Biden/Hunter/Demoncrat corruption operations, even Plandemic run from Ukraine.
The implication is that all of those activities are occurring or have occurred and are being covered up by the “legacy” media. I am in awe of your ability to see through the fog and find the truth. Your sources allow you to see much that has been obscured. Plus, you are a talented writer; you have the ability of a master propagandist to state what you know and others do not.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2022, 02:45:04 AM »
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And I am sure you know most all what we are getting from legacy media outlets is wholely designed to promote the elite PTB agenda, and shutter down any Russian evidence of bioweapons attacks, clandestine NATO operations in Ukraine,  trafficking, Biden/Hunter/Demoncrat corruption operations, even Plandemic run from Ukraine.
The implication is that all of those activities are occurring or have occurred and are being covered up by the “legacy” media. I am in awe of your ability to see through the fog and find the truth. Your sources allow you to see much that has been obscured. Plus, you are a talented writer; you have the ability of a master propagandist to state what you know and others do not.

He concentrates all his efforts defending mother Russia. He doesn't care about whats happening in the United States.
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2022, 03:21:06 AM »
DG...
OK, I see. Apparently by your calculus critical analysis is important when it suits you agenda and biases, and not appropriate when it does not conform to your agenda or rational scheme of things. Is that what you taught your students?
I am in awe of your disingenuous obfuscation to shutter down the truth, and short circuiting critical analysis because you don't approve of various sources of facts. And yes, YES, legacy media matrix covered up and re-varnished every fact about Plandemic, then overnight pivoted to use the same mechanisms to promote and mesmerize Americans to swallow their black pill on Globalist Ukrainium.
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(Actually DG, I am shocked that you would make such a blanket statement. Afterall, you're the guy at the vanguard of critical analysis thinking _ _ always recommending gathering of all facts, motives, and data applied in critical analysis.
Remember? I'm sure you do. And I am sure you know most all what we are getting from legacy media outlets is wholely designed to promote the elite PTB agenda, and shutter down any Russian evidence of bioweapons attacks, clandestine NATO operations in Ukraine,  trafficking, Biden/Hunter/Demoncrat corruption operations, even Plandemic run from Ukraine.
You wouldn't do that, right?)
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And I am sure you know most all what we are getting from legacy media outlets is wholely designed to promote the elite PTB agenda, and shutter down any Russian evidence of bioweapons attacks, clandestine NATO operations in Ukraine,  trafficking, Biden/Hunter/Demoncrat corruption operations, even Plandemic run from Ukraine.

The implication is that all of those activities are occurring or have occurred and are being covered up by the “legacy” media. I am in awe of your ability to see through the fog and find the truth. Your sources allow you to see much that has been obscured. Plus, you are a talented writer; you have the ability of a master propagandist to state what you know and others do not.

Well DG, you shouldn't be questioning the authority. Attack is a given.

Obsession: in pathology, a constant brooding upon any subject, such as the thought of death (or Russia/Ukraine),  until the mind becomes dominated by that one idea.
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2022, 03:28:12 AM »
yup it amazes me he ignores the media when its for the first time i can recall something the conservatives and left agrees on because its so obvious there is no other conclusion and is gullible enough to believe his tin foil hat websites as wrote in stone truth. Ive never seen anyone so wrapped up in conspiracy theory's. So blinded by them that he cant even look at the nose on his own face and not believe some government entity is hacking his mirror!!!
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And I am sure you know most all what we are getting from legacy media outlets is wholely designed to promote the elite PTB agenda, and shutter down any Russian evidence of bioweapons attacks, clandestine NATO operations in Ukraine,  trafficking, Biden/Hunter/Demoncrat corruption operations, even Plandemic run from Ukraine.
The implication is that all of those activities are occurring or have occurred and are being covered up by the “legacy” media. I am in awe of your ability to see through the fog and find the truth. Your sources allow you to see much that has been obscured. Plus, you are a talented writer; you have the ability of a master propagandist to state what you know and others do not.
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2022, 08:18:10 AM »
"Well DG, you shouldn't be questioning the authority. Attack is a given.

Obsession: in pathology, a constant brooding upon any subject, such as the thought of death (or Russia/Ukraine),  until the mind becomes dominated by that one idea."

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You mean like...

...Putin is a crazy maniac
...he's a killer KGB operator war criminal
...he's obsessed with reforming the USSR
...he's a multi billionaire
... Russians hate him b/c he's dictator
...the Russian military is incompetent
...Russians want a regime change
...Ukrainians are all freedom loving democrats
... Zelenskyy is a choir boy freedom fighter
...Ukraine is not the most corrupt place on the planet and the Joebama regime and NATO had nothing to do with the place.

So, black pill legacy media obsessions repeated over and over are OK, like repeating southern border obsessions are OK. But deep diving into Ukraine's cause and affects and facts is not OK. I'm sure DG and y'all will remained disengaged and stick only to the prescribed obsessions.

Darkgael must be roflao when he sees who just came to his rescue.....
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I don't think darkgael needs rescuin. But I do think somebody needs psychiatric evaluation and medication.

And perhaps a trip outside for some fresh air. Supervised of course.  ;)
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2022, 09:28:26 AM »
TM7: I am not worried. I have had the sense that Vladimir Putin has worn the mantle of the KGB since he appeared on the Soviet political scene more than 30 years ago.Nothing that he has done across the decades has caused me to change that feeling.
 What intrigues me at this point is the irony of your suggestions about obsession. Step back and take a dispassionate look at your own writing. It is intense and as much an example of obsession as anything produced by anyone else posting in this thread.

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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2022, 09:48:59 AM »
The only one so far to attempt to back up there opposing opinion so far is VA Rifleman. I disagree and have looked at his links. Not saying your wrong, not saying I’m right. Just not buying it... Honestly since this does not effect me and mine I’m somewhat out of this one. Bigger fish to fry in our local pond. Accusations and name calling on this I’ll leave to the uninformed.

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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2022, 11:29:12 AM »
Dee...I take that as threat. Talk about head case.

You seem to be doing all the talking for DG. And I wasn't even discussing the Russian pullout of Kiev. I was asking DG about his abandoning his critical analysis policy and sounding like you et al.
 
Don't worry DG, Dee will sooner or later turn on you again like a pitbull on a ham sandwich. Guaranteed, it's what he does, and how he rolls.

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"Dee...I take that as a threat. Talk about a head case."

A threat? Have you lost sight of the fact that this is an internet forum. How could I possibly threaten you? I don't even know where you live, nor do i care, and it wouldn't be worth the drive anyway. You're gettin stranger by the post. :o

I can't imagine ANYONE justifying, or trying to justify what Vladimir Putin is doing to millions of innocent Ukrainian citizens. It takes a sick mind to even try to.

Do you not realize how ridiculous that sounds? Do you notice realize that your defense of Russia, and the evilness of Ukraine is all you talk about?
Do you not see, that anyone with an opinion on all this that differs from yours, you demean, and attack?
Hell man, read your own posts.
You need to get outside, and get some air.

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2022, 11:55:35 AM »
Obsession: the state of being posssed by one idea over the exclusion  of others... sound familiar? Of course not...

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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2022, 10:06:49 PM »
ill sure give that one an amen!! Total nut cases would be nervous around him. the definition of "keyboard commando" can be defined in three characters. two letters and a number. Someone who loves conflict but NEVER was willing to do anything but stir the pot. Has all the answers but wants everyone else to do the dirty work. Someone whos idea of what a real threat is happens tapping on a keyboard.
Dee...I take that as threat. Talk about head case.

You seem to be doing all the talking for DG. And I wasn't even discussing the Russian pullout of Kiev. I was asking DG about his abandoning his critical analysis policy and sounding like you et al.
 
Don't worry DG, Dee will sooner or later turn on you again like a pitbull on a ham sandwich. Guaranteed, it's what he does, and how he rolls.

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"Dee...I take that as a threat. Talk about a head case."

A threat? Have you lost sight of the fact that this is an internet forum. How could I possibly threaten you? I don't even know where you live, nor do i care, and it wouldn't be worth the drive anyway. You're gettin stranger by the post. :o

I can't imagine ANYONE justifying, or trying to justify what Vladimir Putin is doing to millions of innocent Ukrainian citizens. It takes a sick mind to even try to.

Do you not realize how ridiculous that sounds? Do you notice realize that your defense of Russia, and the evilness of Ukraine is all you talk about?
Do you not see, that anyone with an opinion on all this that differs from yours, you demean, and attack?
Hell man, read your own posts.
You need to get outside, and get some air.

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2022, 02:20:16 AM »
" Putin is a trained attorney, and I think they have collected enough information to shock the world on  Ukraine corruption and up end the WEF globalists."

   It sure is gratifying to hear the pot call the stove black !   ;D
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2022, 04:13:37 AM »
Saul Alinsky’s rule #5 “ridicule is mans most potent weapon”. #12 “pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2022, 04:21:56 AM »
“What is really interesting about the use of allinsky’s simplistic tactics is that they were designed to be used by people of low intelligence - those who’s lips move when they read. If they EVER read. Tools and fools CNN’s audience”.

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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2022, 07:43:59 AM »
Please keep in mind, the fact that I do not favor Putin, in no way means I favor the Biden bunch, George Soros or the rest of the Bilderberger heirs.
  ..And I certainly have no dislike of the Russian people. In fact, my sense for them is more one of empathy.  They have been suffering under evil leaders for centuries.
   
   If we can no longer rely upon on our elections being free and fair, we may well be entering into a similar situation, by a people who are totally unaware of the nature of such a creeping, resident evil.

  It appears that few Russians have any real concept of freedom, while many Americans have no real concept of political slavery

   I cite again, the "Tytler Cycle"...
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