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« on: March 19, 2022, 01:41:09 AM »
      Here we are, about a month into the Russian invasion in Ukraine.  Their prime objective was Kyiv, about 308 miles from their kick off point in Belarus.

  A comparison..

  March 21, 2003 ..US forces kick off from Kuwait line headed for Baghdad about 250 miles into Iraq.. but they must face the world's 4th largest army.   On April 4th, the 3rd division is kicking their way INTO Baghdad..
     Looks like 14-15 days the way I see it !  How long has Putin been piddling in Ukraine ?

   No long lines of tanks & APC lined up for miles..but Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles 
      boldly entering Bbaghdad .

 
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2022, 01:56:14 AM »
      Here we are, about a month into the Russian invasion in Ukraine.  Their prime objective was Kyiv, about 308 miles from their kick off point in Belarus.

  A comparison..

  March 21, 2003 ..US forces kick off from Kuwait line headed for Baghdad about 250 miles into Iraq.. but they must face the world's 4th largest army.   On April 4th, the 3rd division is kicking their way INTO Baghdad..
     Looks like 14-15 days the way I see it !  How long has Putin been piddling in Ukraine ?

   No long lines of tanks & APC lined up for miles..but Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles 
      boldly entering Bbaghdad .

 


Well, totally by accident you have a rather gruesome comparison of two super power country invaders into two innocent victim countries that done nothing to deserve the invasion, and have innocent civilians killed.

Russia into the Ukraine, and the United States in Iraq.

2 outlaw country bullies killing innocent civilians unprovoked.


Weeks before this push from Kuwait to Bagdad the United States brutally bombed the city killing thousands of civilian men, women, and children, with the death toll surpassing 1,000,000 civilians.

Your point I suppose would be, that the United States military bombing of civilians was more effective in Bagdad softening up the target, than Russias bombing of major cities in Ukraine.

EXCELLENT COMPARISON.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2022, 02:08:59 AM »
      Here we are, about a month into the Russian invasion in Ukraine.  Their prime objective was Kyiv, about 308 miles from their kick off point in Belarus.

  A comparison..

  March 21, 2003 ..US forces kick off from Kuwait line headed for Baghdad about 250 miles into Iraq.. but they must face the world's 4th largest army.   On April 4th, the 3rd division is kicking their way INTO Baghdad..
     Looks like 14-15 days the way I see it !  How long has Putin been piddling in Ukraine ?

   No long lines of tanks & APC lined up for miles..but Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles 
      boldly entering Bbaghdad .

 
Weii totally by accident you have a rather gruesome comparison of two super power country invaders into two innocent victim countries that did not do anything to deserve invasion, and have innocent civilians killed.

Russia into the Ukraine, and the United States in Iraq.

2 outlaw country bullies killing innocent civilians unprovoked.


Weeks before this push from Kuwait to Bagdad the United States brutally bombed the city killing thousands of civilian men, women, and children, with the death toll surpassing 1,000,000 civilians.

EXCELLENT COMPARISON.

   A lack of intel...
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2022, 02:14:35 AM »
      Here we are, about a month into the Russian invasion in Ukraine.  Their prime objective was Kyiv, about 308 miles from their kick off point in Belarus.

  A comparison..

  March 21, 2003 ..US forces kick off from Kuwait line headed for Baghdad about 250 miles into Iraq.. but they must face the world's 4th largest army.   On April 4th, the 3rd division is kicking their way INTO Baghdad..
     Looks like 14-15 days the way I see it !  How long has Putin been piddling in Ukraine ?

   No long lines of tanks & APC lined up for miles..but Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles 
      boldly entering Bbaghdad .

 
Weii totally by accident you have a rather gruesome comparison of two super power country invaders into two innocent victim countries that did not do anything to deserve invasion, and have innocent civilians killed.

Russia into the Ukraine, and the United States in Iraq.

2 outlaw country bullies killing innocent civilians unprovoked.


Weeks before this push from Kuwait to Bagdad the United States brutally bombed the city killing thousands of civilian men, women, and children, with the death toll surpassing 1,000,000 civilians.

EXCELLENT COMPARISON.

   A lack of intel...

Lack of inte..? Who has a lack of intel?
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2022, 02:51:59 AM »
  The OP was about "effectiveness"..  How does your reply address effectiveness?
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2022, 03:08:43 AM »
Well you obviously missed the obvious.

I clearly stated that  the United States bombardment of Bagdad, along with superior air support allowed the United States military to more efficiently kill civilian populations in order to conquere them. They killed more, and accomplished their goals faster than Russia has, regardless of the dark carnage to the civilian population.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2022, 03:39:53 AM »
  The intel question..  you apparently were not aware of the intentional act of keeping civilian casualties to a minimum, throughout the conflict in Iraq.
   There is a vast difference between smart and dumb bombs.  A recent report explained how for
  instance, the UK has 9 smart bombs for every dumb bomb, while Russia is the opposite, having 9 dumb bombs for every smart bomb!  So, perhaps this can account for such a heavy loss of life when Russia i
  The "shock and awe" of both operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom..were done chiefly with smart bombs..almost universally hitting intended targets.

   Here's some info;
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97687&page=1#:~:text=How%20accurate%20is%20the%20weapon,war's%20initial%20attack%20on%20Baghdad.

    From the article, just FYI:

According to ABCNEWS sources, the EGBU-27 can place a bomb within 3 feet of the target from heights of over 20,000 feet.
   
   
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2022, 03:47:13 AM »
There were an estimated 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens killed. That's "million" if you have trouble with  eros.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2022, 03:49:03 AM »
There were an estimated 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens killed. That's "million" if you have trouble with  eros.

  Probably most in combat with coalition forces..

  ..And Eros? How did he get into this conversation/
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2022, 03:51:55 AM »
There were an estimated 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens killed. That's "million" if you have trouble with  eros.

  Probably most in combat with coalition forces..


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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2022, 03:52:52 AM »
  The intel question..  you apparently were not aware of the intentional act of keeping civilian casualties to a minimum, throughout the conflict in Iraq.
   There is a vast difference between smart and dumb bombs.  A recent report explained how for
  instance, the UK has 9 smart bombs for every dumb bomb, while Russia is the opposite, having 9 dumb bombs for every smart bomb!  So, perhaps this can account for such a heavy loss of life when Russia i
  The "shock and awe" of both operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom..were done chiefly with smart bombs..almost universally hitting intended targets.

   Here's some info;
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97687&page=1#:~:text=How%20accurate%20is%20the%20weapon,war's%20initial%20attack%20on%20Baghdad.

    From the article, just FYI:

According to ABCNEWS sources, the EGBU-27 can place a bomb within 3 feet of the target from heights of over 20,000 feet.
   
   

There was no "shock and awe" when Russia invaded the Ukraine.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2022, 04:15:32 AM »
  The intel question..  you apparently were not aware of the intentional act of keeping civilian casualties to a minimum, throughout the conflict in Iraq.
   There is a vast difference between smart and dumb bombs.  A recent report explained how for
  instance, the UK has 9 smart bombs for every dumb bomb, while Russia is the opposite, having 9 dumb bombs for every smart bomb!  So, perhaps this can account for such a heavy loss of life when Russia i
  The "shock and awe" of both operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom..were done chiefly with smart bombs..almost universally hitting intended targets.

   Here's some info;
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97687&page=1#:~:text=How%20accurate%20is%20the%20weapon,war's%20initial%20attack%20on%20Baghdad.

    From the article, just FYI:

According to ABCNEWS sources, the EGBU-27 can place a bomb within 3 feet of the target from heights of over 20,000 feet.
   
   

There was no "shock and awe" when Russia invaded the Ukraine.

  No, they likely didn't have the technology to do it, besides an armored invasion has a great "shock and awe" effect..when properly done.

   Interesting to see how you think Russia has so much cleaner hands than your own country..

  That of course, I disagree with.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2022, 05:21:01 AM »
Two entirely different operations.
US operation in Iracq was 'bomb Iracq back to the stone age' and make it another failed state.
  Sorry, but I disagree with that assumption..but they did look for leadership change, which was a questionable move.

Russian operation is not to obliterate Ukraine, but selectively hunt out the Globalist-Washington tyranny of corruption, eliminate their nazified enforcers, expose and neutralize the worldwide bioweapons projects, and secure some peace for ethnic Russians in Donblas.

  This too, I see as a matter of individual opinion..

They've been taking their time and quite selective.
Which is why we saw huge convoys stopped on roads _ _ they have avoided plowing thru farm fields, in particular winter wheat fields. And spring planting is still some weeks away.
 
  Will Putin stop to allow spring planting?  ;)  ;D

     ..Doubt that too!  Any sensible armor commander knows better than to leave his vehicles lined up like sitting ducks. When stalled as they were or are, dispersion and movement are critical.  I recall another tank battalion in the 4 Armored which had a unit crest (see mu avatar) that stated, "move, shoot, communicate", where my batallion said "penetrate and envelop"..both critical armored precepts..

We have yet to see any meaningful or real Ukrainian defensive major counter attacks, because there haven't been any. We just get virtue signaling optics on telaversion... like a captured tank or a blown school, which turn out to be questionable.
  A counter attack launched just this morning..check the news.
   https://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-counteroffensive-russian-troops-us-switchblade-kamikaze-drones-1525145

Comparing US war in Iracq to Russian operations in Ukraine is like comparing fish to dogs.
  No real difference IMO..
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  ..But as I said, it will take a miracle to save Ukraine...having to fight a super-power all on their own.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2022, 05:31:44 AM »
Fish are stupid ,Dogs are not.
In this time i Command ,That you take the Secular to Jerusalem .
There you rid the Holy City of the Scourge of Islam , Make the streets run red with the Blood of those who wish to wash Israel and Christianity from the face of the Earth.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2022, 09:39:27 AM »
IG....

Russian commanders didn't worry about their convoys because there was no defense to worry about.

Still isn't any defense. It's over. They can only hope to drag this war out for years, cover their crimes, and dovetail it into their WEF- NWO agenda.

Can you imagine what a single small nuke blast in space would do to DoD NATO space based weapon systems?  I can.
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Russia uses dumb weapons you say?
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  No defense to worry about? It doesn't look like that; in fact it will get tougher and tougher as days go by.
  Russia has as many crooks (oligharchs) as the Ukraine, and very likely more by far...led by Putin himself.  Putin is listed as one of the wealthuiest men , if not THE wealthiest man in the world.

  Remember what Harry Truman said about rich politicians..

  Imagining what a nuclear blast in space can do to anything...that can go both ways..

  You have often cited Gen Jerry Boykin for his vast experience and his frankness, now watch him comment on the Ukraine fiasco..

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjmx08uT7Lw
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2022, 09:54:41 AM »
200,000 turn out in Moscow in support of Russian army and Putin in Ukraine operation.
Putin quoted Jesus.

Trump couldn't even get a rally that large...
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   Putin has one rally of 200,000, Trump has several rallies of 125,000.. and Trump cannot
  order
people to attend his rallies.. with repercussions if they don't..

   "Putin quoted Jesus"

      "19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."  (James 2:19)
 


 
 

 
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2022, 12:14:23 PM »
IG....

Russian commanders didn't worry about their convoys because there was no defense to worry about.

Still isn't any defense. It's over. They can only hope to drag this war out for years, cover their crimes, and dovetail it into their WEF- NWO agenda.

Can you imagine what a single small nuke blast in space would do to DoD NATO space based weapon systems?  I can.
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Russia uses dumb weapons you say?
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If the Ukrainians were the force our press is saying they are, we would be seeing nothing but burning vehicles in this convoy.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2022, 01:16:46 PM »
  .
       Putin= Hannibal    Ukraine arm=. Gen Fabian   ....Study it !
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2022, 02:14:46 PM »
The Putin rally in Moscow was mostly government workers who were mandated to go.  This was not like a Trump rally. 

The 1 million people killed that Dee reported is the Maximum count from only one source.  Realistic estimates are between 185,000 to 208,000.  Most of the civilian deaths were the Iraq republican guard killing civilians that were pro-west and the militias killing people.  It was estimated that only 35% were from Coalition forces.  Also Iraq used civilians as human shields. 

Also, Iraq had invaded and took over Kwuait, and had invaded Saudi Arabia.  They had gassed Kurds in their own country.  Sadam was a madman like Putin. 

The Coalition included Great Brittan, Canada, France, the US, Saudi Arabia, and other Arab nations.  This was provoked by Sadam, we invaded to depose him.  We can't invade Russia, but we can sure help Ukraine fight them off. 

Yes, yes, yes, we hear you about the southern invasion.  Vote for anyone who can beat a democrat, even if they are a Rino.  At least we can try to turn the tide.  Get family members to register to vote, and friends and neighbors.  Take them to the polls.  This is what good community organizers do.  We have to do the same.  Also, didn't some volunteers go down to the border a few years ago to help guard the border, but they were arrested.  Hard to do if your own government arrests you for doing so.  Don't Texas have open carry laws. Get a bunch of people to go down and walk around with your gun over your shoulder at the border crossings.  Some of us are too old and the ones who are conservative have to work for a living.  Hard to do.  Unless we can pay unemployed or homeless vets to go guard the border if the government would let us. 

This war in Ukraine can't even compare to the Iraqi war.  Iraq was the aggressor.  We and the Coalition were the liberators. 

Oh, and for the southern border.  Why don't you guys come up with a plan and see if everyone is on board with implementing it instead of constantly complaining about it. 
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2022, 02:24:52 PM »
Kuwait was angle drilling into Iraqi oil deposits and old man Bush gave Hussein  permission to go in and put  a stop to it.
Basically Bush set Hussein up.
When Bush was head of the CIA he brought Hussein to Ft Benning Georgia and had him trained at "The School of  Americas" and helped put him on power.

Also the GW  Bush reasons for invading Iraq, was weapons of mass destruction, not for mistreating Kuwait, or Saudi Arabia.

Your information is basically "partly correct", like your comparison of Ukraine to Texas,  which was way off.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2022, 07:21:35 PM »
IG.....

I have never cited Gen Boykin for anything.
At least I don't recall citing him for anything.

You need to take your Shakespeare quote to heart. I don't recall any uS president or leader ever quoting Jesus.
stalin used to get even higher pollnumbers..  ..And Chairman Xi does pretty good too !
Yes, 200,000 plus turned out for Russian support.
Putin has a 70% approval rating. No US president has ever come close to that in the last 75 years.
  Right, we have a 2 party competitive system here.
Could it be Russians don't want to be threatened or terrorized by NATO and Globalist hegemonist on their border, carrying on bioweapons and genetic  weapons programs? Yeah, just maybe, huh!
  Check the news..Putin is the one tossing hypersonics around and threatening nuclear bombing.

 
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And IG, you do realize by being the war monger again in this case, you are directly supporting the illegal President, Biden crime family, Covidmania tyranny, and the communist overthrow of the USA. You do realize that, right?
  Where have you ever seen me support any of those thing you are accusing me of?
I support America, and any people fighting for their freedom and independence ..it's an American tradition
 



Next time you're talking to Joebama ask him why he imposed absolutely Nazi draconian Covid-vaxxination sanctions on Americans, but is willing to risk nuclear war and give all the support our printing presses can muster to Ukraine (the world's most corrupt country led by a porn comedian), when Ukraine only has a 33-35% vaxxination rate!
  I do not support Biden or any of his ilk.. The idea that Ukraine is being called corrupt by Putin the leading funds skimmer of the world, is laughable.  Calling Ukraine's president names, to me.. is an juvenile resort.  Jimmy Carter was accused of being just a "peanut farmer", Pres Reagan
 a "B grade actor", Eisenhower a "war monger', Harry S Truman was "only a haberdasher" and even ols Abe was called "an ape"  such derogatory terms are not hosted bymost.

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And so, why do you hate Russia so much? They have helped us out several times in the past. Or is it just your cold war indoctrination in play.?

  I don't hate Russia..i just don't trust their KGB indoctrinated leader..  I have said here before that I don't want to see any more Russians, Ukrainians or anybody else die.  It is others who seem to wish death, or at least are ambivalent concerning the deaths of the combatants, or others
 who are there to help preserve freedom.


Why do you hate Putin so much? He might be the devil incarnate for all I know, but I have never seen concrete cogent reports proving his evil designs. I've seen the usual propaganda channels claiming he's a terrible guy, you know the kind of popular stuff you follow; but I have never seen anything credible proving he's a rotten SOB. But I'd like to see those reports. Got any?
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  Not him, but his designs..here are some..

 
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-approach-ukraine-russia-wrong-start-mike-pompeohe
   
    https://www.italy24news.com/News/375108.html

  https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2016-12-01/vladimir-putin-wants-to-restore-the-soviet-union-former-secretary-of-defense-says

  Plenty more where those came from..
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2022, 04:58:51 PM »
Yep IG,  by your hatred of Putin and Russia and lust for war, you vicariously support the Biden Crime Regime and the surrender of the USA to the Globalist devils.

You must have a different Bible then mine.
My Book has Mathew 5 in it.
Please show me where it is written Blessed are the War Makers for they shall destroy the Earth.
Unless in the Anton Lavey bible. PM if you like.
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Thanks for the usual propaganda and opinion pieces on your arch villian. But I'm looking for more concrete evidence. I doubt Putin's net worth is barely a fraction of the Biden crime family's.

Yes, Zelenskyy is a porn comedian and has performed in demonically possessed acts. That is proven record. Interesting to note after he was placed in office the first thing he did was hold a nation wide Gay LGTB Pride week and parade. This a mandatory act to prove fidelity to the WEF and Globalist devils. So, Ukraine has that going for them! Anyway it looks like Nationalist are about to replace him because he is not in Ukraine.
 
Also interesting to note, NYTimes has finally fessed up that the stuff on Hunter's laptop is true, not Russian disinfo. Some of the leaked stuff is pure hardcore child pornography which I can not, will not post here or anywhere. Suffice to say if we were not a Corruptocracy Hunter and Pop's would be cuffed and hauled off, but instead they're leading you and us to war. If you support their war, then you vicariously supported all their crimes and draconian communist sanctions placed on American citizens via Plandemic.

   I don't hate anybody, nor do I hate the Russian people, since they are just people like us, and like us are plagued by bad leaders...
  Unlike some here who wish death on anyone who goes to help Ukraine maintain it's independence, or otyhers..who don't are how many die on either side, I hate to see these young lives wasted.

  Below. see 5 young Russian soldiers..arranged in their special "Z" symbol.  I take no satisfaction in seeing  these things happen.  Those Russian troops are somebody's brother, father, husband, son, uncle etc.  Ugly stuff!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmo4mTz50xI
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2022, 09:59:52 AM »
I think most around the world have OVER ESTIMATED the strength of the Russia military (except for the Nukes).  Putin and his cronies have looted the country for their own good, why would they leave money on the table to support the military.  In 2020 Russia spent $61.7 Billion on defense (less than India)  We spent $778 Billion.  Launch the Russian AC Carrier the "SS Skijump"  or maybe the diesel submarines.  Notice no US Military has confirmed the "Hypersonic Missile" the Russians claimed to have launched.

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2022, 12:21:36 PM »
I think most around the world have OVER ESTIMATED the strength of the Russia military (except for the Nukes).  Putin and his cronies have looted the country for their own good, why would they leave money on the table to support the military.  In 2020 Russia spent $61.7 Billion on defense (less than India)  We spent $778 Billion.  Launch the Russian AC Carrier the "SS Skijump"  or maybe the diesel submarines.  Notice no US Military has confirmed the "Hypersonic Missile" the Russians claimed to have launched.

   Could be their politicians' looting is catching up with them..  We also have to watch certain ones in our government..  When the radical left wants more money for a vote buying some useless freebie program..first thing they do is try to skim it from the military..
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Re: Effectiveness..
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2022, 12:26:38 PM »
Watching Elmer Fudd joining the leftist ideology. Later will take no blame as he can never admit fault. Go Elmer, Go...

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2022, 12:38:42 PM »
Watching Elmer Fudd joining the leftist ideology. Later will take no blame as he can never admit fault. Go Elmer, Go...

  Still looking for some intellectual content from you...
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2022, 12:49:44 PM »
Watching Elmer Fudd joining the leftist ideology. Later will take no blame as he can never admit fault. Go Elmer, Go...

  Still looking for some intellectual content from you...
In the words of the previous poster.
Ditto...
Whatever that un intellectual content means...

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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2022, 02:23:09 PM »
Ditto.. derivation of the term..Italian "dictus"..  meaning "said"..

  Ditto was in popular usage about mid 20th century, meaning agreed, or I agree..

  Ditto even has it's symbolic mark, which many people use often and don't even realize what it is called.

   It is the same as our quotation mark..  Here is an example...

     Blue dress
     Red     "
    Green  "
    Gray    "

     Those quotation marks under dress, are more appropriately called dittoes..

  The term  ditto, was again popularized by Rush Limbaugh..
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2022, 02:26:52 PM »
What I posted was sarcasm.
Since ya think we all need a English lesson.
How about a definition for that?

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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2022, 02:28:30 PM »
What I posted was sarcasm.

   That's OK, but it was a learning moment also..wasn't it ?
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