On the ground in the Ukraine.. What's it like ?

[ironglow]

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  This is a video produced by " Coffee or Die" magazine, which is piublished by the Spec Ops veterans at
   Black Rifle Coffee Co. on 11/17/21  (22 min video)

  Those Ukranians are gutsy people under attack daily...  Just imagine if this were your backyard;

    (22 min video)    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Flf1grUWCU

  Thank goodness, western Europe is starting to help their own..

[ironglow]

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  Must be tough...kiss Mama goodbye each morning, as she heads out to do not only sniper work,  but also counter-sniper work each day...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVc4HPhanc

[ironglow]

And just imagine what it is like being an ethnic Russian living in eastern Ukraine, Donblast region.
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   That would indeed be tough, but the majority are Ukranians, and want to stay that way.  They weren't doing too bad, until Putin decided to try to reinvigorate the old USSR nations.   
   Reminds me of Hitler using excuses to take over austria and Czechoslovakia.

[Lloyd Smale]

exactly TM7. Its a mess we made ourselves. IMO (and thats not worth much) biden is failing. HIs numbers are plummeting. I think he sees this as a way to look powerful to the world. We dont need Unkrain and have nothing to benefit by going to war. Biden again is caught in situation where if he doesnt back them he looks week and the conservatives are going to roast him. If he gets us into war the conservatives are going to roast him for that and the price we pay will be steep. Not only will we probably be fighting a world war against russia, china, iran and korea. A war we cant win but the economic repercussions will devastate this country. I think bidens thoughts are that could be a win because then his domestic policys wouldnt be used against him to blame the failing economy. In a limited war (if thats possible) the attention would be on that and not on his socialist agenda and he might just be able to sneek in more of his craziness. Bottom line is we all know it isnt even him making these decisions. Hes not smart enough. He has his socialist advisers crunching numbers. There are advantages for the democrats if they get putin to back down and advantages if they dont. There just as relevant to them as the fact that we will suffer. He basically has nothing to lose. It cant make him less popular and might just give him a political victory. My wife made a point last night. She said hes pushing for a black female for the supreme court. She said she wonders if we get into a full blown war and they have to implement the draft if they will say that black females should be drafted right along side of the men. They want equality. Give it to them. Can you imagine the mess today if they had to implement the draft in any way. Every black and minority be they male of female are going to scream prejudice and say there not going to fight for this country that doesnt treat them fair. It would make the draft a joke. Add to that the liberal pussys in this country that sure arent going to fight. Whats left? The same bunch from the capitol that there putting in jail. The only ones with a set. US!! As long as biden is in control there sure not going to send 10s of thousands of blacks to jail for dodging the draft. No doubt china and russia know this and are sitting back licking there lips discussing how there going to split up the spoils. 

The Russian Federation didn't have to give up Ukraine in the first place, but they did with the Gorbachev-Reagan agreement not have NATO Globalist encroach on Russian borders. This was not honored. With the 2006 Munich Agreement Putin again made it clear and got agreement that Russian borders would not be encroached especially in the Ukraine. This was not honored.

Then came Obama/Hillary/Nuland that flooded the Ukraine with 3rd country agitators and neo-nazies to foment a color revolution and place a western puppet president and anti-Russian government in power. You know, a color revolution just like the one we had that placed Biden and the communist in power. The Ukraine became the hub of the Joe and Hunter's crime syndicate, and all kinds of corruption. Cleansing of ethnic Russians followed. The US and Israel sent hundreds of 'military advisors' and weapons into the Ukraine, against Russian protest. Imagine the CCP doing the same thing in Canada just north of New York state.
 
Now I understand for most so-called conservatives Russia and Putin is the designated enemy, which the Biden Regime will capitalize on to quell rightest criticism of his regime during his wag the dog war; to coral the right in support of yet another war. But Black Rifle Coffee looks like controlled opposition, and I suspect your two videos are propaganda, and that's why they're on youtube.
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[ironglow]

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  Candace as usual, makes very good sense.  We should never forget, Putin has the economic and political success of Russia as his primary duty...  We should be so blessed as that!
   
   We did have that with Pres Trump, but apparently many millions of Americans ..along with a few million Chinese ..or what ever, wanted Biden in the oval office.

  Yes, we have had some misadventures..that is plenty of them , overseas. But as I see it, i am still convinced that Putin wants to revive the old Soviet Union.  Keep in mind, he is also threatening the Baltic states..Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
  According to Betsy McCaughey, his college thesis, he mentioned reviving the old USSR, but mainly through trade...based on petroleum.

  Having some Russian speaking natives, is no honest reason to invade the Ukraine..any more than invading if Spain or the Netherlands, had a Russia speaking minority..  After all, we have a Spanish speaking minority here in the U.S.
  Nothing wrong with a nation trying to  trade it's way to greatness.. so long as it is peaceful and fair.  If Biden had any diplomatic capabilities, he could likely arrange a mutual  back off from the Ukraine border....but he doesn't have full faculties, say nothing of capabilities..

  Then he aided Russia in the most profitable way, by shutting down our clean and safe petroleum production, in favor of Russia, or any other country that may or may not drill or ship so cleanly.

   One thing neither Biden or the demonrats cannot ever complain about, after their humiliating retreat from Afghanistan , which is to accuse anyone at any time, with providing arms to terrorists. since they obviously, are kings at doing that.

[ironglow]

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  TM;
   I have no problem with your assessment of the Biden Quislings, but I do question Putin's motives.

   If he is only acting to assert Russia's present borders, and negotiates a dispersal of all forces gathered by
     everybody over this provocation, that may well prove his true intentions.

     However, if he simply wants to reconstitute the old USSR, then he is the aggressor (IMO).  Since as explained
   by some in the videos provided, the "separatists" in Ukraine are mostly older citizens, who also dream of reconstituting the USSR.  They grew up under overarching government control and it appears, long for their personal vision of the "good old days"

      One perhaps positive point, under our Quisling regime, we are not performing a very active part... other than
       bluster.  Frankly, this is primarily a European problem, and it is time they got up off their couch.

    However, the surprising and perhaps telling part, is how Europe, both east and west, seem to be very concerned that Putin may well be trying to rebuild the old USSR.

     A reunited USSR, would not be good for us, a severe problem for west Europe..a suggestion of terrorism for the east European nations, who painfully broke free from Soviet domination....and still harbor memories of corpses hanging upon the tall, barb wire fences of the Iron Curtain...

[Bob Smith]

TM - what is your Rank in the Russian forces?

[ironglow]

IG...
You sound like neocon-neolib propaganda media. Nobody longs for overarching government control in a surveillance state except brainwashed nazies running the government. Putin has shown none of the traits you imagine.
Fortunately, Ukraine president Zalensky yesterday told Biden to back off, that war was not eminent, and that the Ukraine is open for tourism - - essentially telling Biden and NATO war party to stuff it.
Btw, Ukraine is not a NATO treaty member, so the USA and NATO has no business there, and article 5 does not apply. If Zalensky has any sense he will declare his country a neutral state friendly to all.
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   Did Biden need somebody to tell him to "lay off"?  Compared to Europe(excluding Germany) and even the Swedes.  Biden is doing no more than making small barking noises.
   Putin gives him no more deference than he would L'il Kim..
   
   is, Biden is likely the reason things are kicking up all over the world.. China not only infected the world, it has about crushed Hong Kong,  is now threatening Taiwan and ultimately Australia.   

   The Taliban is no longer concerned by the US...especially now, that they are about the 4th best equipped army in the world..
  L'il kim is spitting missiles all over the  east again...

  Bob...TM often takes the distaff side..I believe he does love his country , but like many of us...doesn't trust politicians..

[ironglow]

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   From TM..."Biden is leading the NATO charge against the Russian position, with threatening rhetoric, nonstatesmanship, and mega shipments of weapons [/color] advisors, and freshly printed Biden bucks."

  Maybe he just wants to balance his foolish act a bit by giving NATO a few bucks..just to make up for the  $85 billion in weapons he left for the Taliban..much of which may end up in Russia in the end.


 "Meanwhile, our own country thank to Supreme Socialist Leader Biden, has gone to pot and with a very sovietized medical fascist state, like you accuse"

   You won't get any argument from me on that score, since Bumbles has no clue as to what is going on..and his closest advisers hate the US, and can hardly wait for the "great reset"../color]