A sad, creepy story..

[ironglow]

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  Painful to contemplate;

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXRuas3lOEM

[phalanx]

A lot of that happened in those days. They didn’t have the medical expertise,or the equipment to know any better. Like having an EKG which may have saved her.

[oldandslow]

Sad and creepy indeed. Like a lot of videos it took a much longer time to tell the story than necessary.

[ironglow]

Sad and creepy indeed. Like a lot of videos it took a much longer time to tell the story than necessary.

  That guy has a series where he visits cemeteries, where such stories arise from.  ..Gotta make them last..

  Yes Phalanx..folks used to be pronounced dead by almost anybody..even the local sheriff or in some cases, by a family member.  Often even doctors woud simply hold a mirror before the subject's nostrils.."no steam, ..no life involved"...

[DDZ]

Minus medical technology wouldn't the body be cold with rigor mortis if she had actually died? For someone to remain alive their heart has to beat to supply oxygen to organs, and especially the brain.  Can't comprehend how they would actually bury someone alive thinking they were dead. A dead person takes on a physical transformation. Which I'm sure they were aware of even in the 1800's

[phalanx]

Many of them back then didn’t know what a temporary coma was. And if the patient came out of it in the grave.

[oldandslow]

 ..Gotta make them last..

Which translates into--boring. So much of written history is that way also, dry, dull,----and boring. I find most videos to be by people that like to hear themselves talk even if they have little information to impart. They spend 15-20 minutes on a subject that could be done in less than 5 minutes with the very same amount of information delivered.

[ironglow]

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   For me,such information is interesting, since I recently handed over the job of cemetery administrator for the local cemetery.
  By an experienced administrator, much can be read about any family or situation, just by observing the markers or the burial ledger.
  In one episode, he tried to llocate a movie actor who died in 1953.  When he discovered the family grave site, he fiound markers for all who preceded the actor in death, but where the man was supposed to be buried   no gravestone..  why?
   We have several llike that in our local cemetery...but by aplyingvlogic, I didn't wonder for long...
     If you are the last of the family..and may have even buried the others...when you die..who buys the grave stone?   ....Nobody..that's who !

    Sometimes you will see where a young woman died..  Not far away, perhaps a child that died 2 weeks later.
   ...Obviously, a problem during child birth.

       Old records usually tell "cause of death"... but according to hippa, the administraton "ist verbotten" to tell anyone what the cause of death was, if it occurred during the last century.

  So what, if a local family inquires, and I happen open the ledger, point out the name..say "I can't tell you', then leave the ledger open, while I find other tasks to do in the office for a few minutes. (Not saying I actually did it).

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[BUGEYE]

(Not saying I actually did it).

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[phalanx]

On the subject of burial. I think I would rather be cremated. After reading and hearing about the condition of the body of a corpse that had been exhumed. But either way it would not matter because I’m dead.

[Dee]

Minus medical technology wouldn't the body be cold with rigor mortis if she had actually died? For someone to remain alive their heart has to beat to supply oxygen to organs, and especially the brain.  Can't comprehend how they would actually bury someone alive thinking they were dead. A dead person takes on a physical transformation. Which I'm sure they were aware of even in the 1800's

Riga mortise takes about 10 hours to complete, then disappears in another 10 hours.

[Dee]

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   For me,such information is interesting, since I recently handed over the job of ceetery administrator for the local cemetery.
  By an experienced administrator, much can be read about any family or situation, just by observing the markers or the burial ledger.
  In one episode, he tried to llocate a movie actor who died in 1953.  When he discovered the family grave site, he fiound markers for all who preceded the actor in death, but where the man was supposed to be buried   no gravestone..  why?
   We have several llike that in our local cemetery...but by aplyingvlogic, I didn't wonder for long...
     If you are the last of the family..and may have even buried the others...when you die..who buys the grave stone?   ....Nobody..that's who !

    Sometimes you will see where a young woman died..  Not far away, perhaps a child that died 2 weeks later.
   ...Obviously, a problem during child birth.

       Old records usually tell "cause of death"... but according to hippa, the administraton "ist verbotten" to tell anyone what the cause of death was, if it occurred during the last century.

  So what, if a local family inquires, and I happen open the ledger, point out the name..say "I can't tell you', then leave the ledger open, while I find other tasks to do in the office for a few minutes. (Not saying I actually did it).

  .

I'm the last left in our family plot. My gravestone is already there waiting.

[pastorp]

Well I always believed I’d get eaten by a grizley bear or some such. But now I half to face my years. In 76 and still in reasonably good health. We have lived all over the USA and traveled s couple foreign countries. Having said that I’m praying that Doris & I just go to sleep one night and God takes us home. Doris says she’s hopping for the rapture, but if not then she’s ok,with my plan. And I’m ok with hers.

If I do die and leave a body for the kids to deal with, I’ll be creamated and my ashes scattered up Gum Slough, that’s where I started fishing at about age 5. I tried to row the skiff but need help at that age. My SIL has been instructed to scatter my ashes at the old railroad tressel where they will flow down to the withalchossee river. And on down it and eventually flow into the gulf of Mexico. To be reserected when the trumpet sound to call us all home.

[BUGEYE]

Well I always believed I’d get eaten by a grizley bear or some such. But now I half to face my years. In 76 and still in reasonably good health. We have lived all over the USA and traveled s couple foreign countries. Having said that I’m praying that Doris & I just go to sleep one night and God takes us home. Doris says she’s hopping for the rapture, but if not then she’s ok,with my plan. And I’m ok with hers.

If I do die and leave a body for the kids to deal with, I’ll be creamated and my ashes scattered up Gum Slough, that’s where I started fishing at about age 5. I tried to row the skiff but need help at that age. My SIL has been instructed to scatter my ashes at the old railroad tressel where they will flow down to the withalchossee river. And on down it and eventually flow into the gulf of Mexico. To be reserected when the trumpet sound to call us all home.

Cremation for us too.

[phalanx]

The process of a cremation is interesting.  There is a video of it on YouTube. The bones what’s left of them are ground up into a course powder like substance and mixed into the ashes.

[Mule 11]

.
   For me,such information is interesting, since I recently handed over the job of ceetery administrator for the local cemetery.
  By an experienced administrator, much can be read about any family or situation, just by observing the markers or the burial ledger.
  In one episode, he tried to llocate a movie actor who died in 1953.  When he discovered the family grave site, he fiound markers for all who preceded the actor in death, but where the man was supposed to be buried   no gravestone..  why?
   We have several llike that in our local cemetery...but by aplyingvlogic, I didn't wonder for long...
     If you are the last of the family..and may have even buried the others...when you die..who buys the grave stone?   ....Nobody..that's who !

    Sometimes you will see where a young woman died..  Not far away, perhaps a child that died 2 weeks later.
   ...Obviously, a problem during child birth.

       Old records usually tell "cause of death"... but according to hippa, the administraton "ist verbotten" to tell anyone what the cause of death was, if it occurred during the last century.

  So what, if a local family inquires, and I happen open the ledger, point out the name..say "I can't tell you', then leave the ledger open, while I find other tasks to do in the office for a few minutes. (Not saying I actually did it).

  .

I'm the last left in our family plot. My gravestone is already there waiting.

A sad day.

[billy_56081]

The original grave west of Hanska Minnesota is about 10 miles from my house.  I went past it yesterday while coyote hunting.  There were 2 guys around my age who got caught trying to dig it up. Both met early deaths.

[billy_56081]

Oh and by the way, this story is a folk tale.

[Dee]

If you ain't dead when they bury ya, suffocation will cure that pretty quick.

[ironglow]

.
   For me,such information is interesting, since I recently handed over the job of ceetery administrator for the local cemetery.
  By an experienced administrator, much can be read about any family or situation, just by observing the markers or the burial ledger.
  In one episode, he tried to llocate a movie actor who died in 1953.  When he discovered the family grave site, he fiound markers for all who preceded the actor in death, but where the man was supposed to be buried   no gravestone..  why?
   We have several llike that in our local cemetery...but by aplyingvlogic, I didn't wonder for long...
     If you are the last of the family..and may have even buried the others...when you die..who buys the grave stone?   ....Nobody..that's who !

    Sometimes you will see where a young woman died..  Not far away, perhaps a child that died 2 weeks later.
   ...Obviously, a problem during child birth.

       Old records usually tell "cause of death"... but according to hippa, the administraton "ist verbotten" to tell anyone what the cause of death was, if it occurred during the last century.

  So what, if a local family inquires, and I happen open the ledger, point out the name..say "I can't tell you', then leave the ledger open, while I find other tasks to do in the office for a few minutes. (Not saying I actually did it).

  .

I'm the last left in our family plot. My gravestone is already there waiting.

   Smart way to do it, Dee.  Also smart to have a "prepaid funeral plan", so there won't be a burden for anyone else.  We, the wife and I purchased our graves back in 1985, when we buried our firstborn son. We also had the stone put in place at that time.
     
    About 5 years ago we purchased our prepaid plans, little realizing that one of us would be using the plan so soon..

   

[Dee]

I wanna be cremated with no funeral. Just bury the jar in the designated area.
No use dragging it out for the few that do care, or provide the opportunity to those that don't, to pretend they do.

[ironglow]

I wanna be cremated with no funeral. Just bury the jar in the designated area.
No use dragging it out for the few that do care, or provide the opportunity to those that don't, to pretend they do.

  Scattering is legal..just get  somebody you trust, to do the honors..

[Dee]

Don't wanna be scattered. Read my post.

[ulav8r]

My niece told my BIL she would cremate him and put his ashes in an open container in the back of a truck and drive around town til they were all blown out.

[ironglow]

The original grave west of Hanska Minnesota is about 10 miles from my house.  I went past it yesterday while coyote hunting.  There were 2 guys around my age who got caught trying to dig it up. Both met early deaths.

   Thanks for the local information Billy...that really adds a personal touch, and often can lead to some little heard of information..

[ironglow]

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  Still another creepy story...

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p88sik_6-rI