Grandson Back To Work, Give Until Wednesday To Be Vaccinated!

[Dee]

Grandson is over covid-19, went back to work yesterday. He has until TOMORROW, to get vaccinated.
He asked about his newly acquired "natural immunity" and they advised him they didn't care if he had "natural immunity".
Get vaccinated by Wednesday, or get another job.

[mcbammer]

Grandson is over covid-19, went back to work yesterday. He has until TOMORROW, to get vaccinated.
He asked about his newly acquired "natural immunity" and they advised him they didn't care if he had "natural immunity".
Get vaccinated by Wednesday, or get another job.

Its a shame a young person  is forced into making a life changing choice . 

[phalanx]

Doctors are saying it's not wise to vaccinate someone who has natural immunities. They have seen adverse effects on people who did. His employer is not a Doctor.

[phalanx]

Dee I haven't really ran into that. The Doctor had the lab to create a natural immunity card for me. Which they did. And that was in Lubbock TX.

[Dee]

Dee I haven't really ran into that. The Doctor had the lab to create a natural immunity card for me. Which they did. And that was in Lubbock TX.

Pantex doesn't care, their government ran.

[phalanx]

I show the card and people ask me how did I get that? It's still under a Doctors discretion.It should happen a lot more due to all the controversy. The vaxxed discriminateing against the unvaxxed. Before we even know the
truth behind all this.

[O-mega]

Screw that, I would send the boss an email and Personnel Management asking if he still needs the vaccine even though he just survived the actual virus.  That way it is in writing, and can be used in a court of law, and I would definitely hire a lawyer if they still insist.

[Dee]

He's 24, just got married this month, and I doubt he has the money to hire a lawyer.

[ironglow]

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   Sad day...when the government can force anyone to take any type of medication, shot or course of treatment.

[Dee]

Doctor told him to wait at least 90 days after symptoms disappear before taking the vaccine.
Boss said the CDC didn't agree, to either take the vaccine, or hit the road.

Grandson backed down, and took the first shot yesterday. I guess we'll see if it  works out.
I personally wouldn't have, but I ain't him. Intimidation is not an environment I would want to work in.

[45/70fan]

Doctors are saying it's not wise to vaccinate someone who has natural immunities. They have seen adverse effects on people who did. His employer is not a Doctor.

My gf took the jabs. Got pneumonia and then covid. Her doctors bashed me for not getting the shot. They said don't believe the politicians believe the doctors. I replied which doctors, the ones getting jabbed or the ones not, he said nothing else. Anyways, she came home a week later and right back to the hospital with a significant heart attack. All about 8 weeks AFTER the shots. Then they told her no booster or flu shot for 3 months. Now less than 2 months later they are pushing her for both. There is so much double talk it's maddening.

[Dee]

Well, its always a minority of people who will actually take a stand, and hold to it, and if it makes a difference, its rare because the numbers weren't the there.

I was disappointed that my grandson caved, but my gut told me he would.

I had a career where there were "a few" that would stay hooked no matter how bad it got. But the rest would either back down, and some that never showed up.

This country is in crisis, and if the 2022 election is stolen like the last one, we're third world bound.

[Dee]

I see these as another step toward control of individual freedom. At the moment, it is controlling ones right to work.
What's next?

[orerancher]

I see these as another step toward control of individual freedom. At the moment, it is controlling ones right to work.
What's next?

Cut off the Ability to enter Food Stores....

[Dee]

I see these as another step toward control of individual freedom. At the moment, it is controlling ones right to work.
What's next?

Cut off the Ability to enter Food Stores....

I think there will be that, and other can't dos without the jab.

Linda and I got a taste of that a couple a weeks ago on a three day trip to Red River New Mexico.
Some businesses would let us in without a mask, and some would be rude if you came to the door without a mask.

[Mule 11]

Doctors are saying it's not wise to vaccinate someone who has natural immunities. They have seen adverse effects on people who did. His employer is not a Doctor.

My gf took the jabs. Got pneumonia and then covid. Her doctors bashed me for not getting the shot. They said don't believe the politicians believe the doctors. I replied which doctors, the ones getting jabbed or the ones not, he said nothing else. Anyways, she came home a week later and right back to the hospital with a significant heart attack. All about 8 weeks AFTER the shots. Then they told her no booster or flu shot for 3 months. Now less than 2 months later they are pushing her for both. There is so much double talk it's maddening.

I’m sure I’m gonna catch some flak over this. No animosity or judgement of any kind on my part. Charlie took two shots this year and is gone. Not saying that’s why as I know he had a lot of health problems. It’s been on my mind though.

[ironglow]

  SW Airlines employees acted...Southwest answered..

       Moog inc. employees outside, a the line...   Moog is a supplier to the government, for advanced aircraft and the
     space program.
        https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/erie-county/elma/employees-at-moog-in-elma-plan-to-walk-out-again-over-vaccine-mandate/

   Mercy hospital in buffalo, also is dealing with an employee walkout...people are getting to the point where they are striking back !

  On the surface it sounds like a common union strike, but the "mandate" s definitely an element;

  https://buffalonews.com/business/local/too-little-too-late-union-workers-at-mercy-hospital-go-on-strike-as-talks-fail/article_934e668c-228e-11ec-bc6c-dfe65ed3281b.html

[VA Rifleman]

Following the “science”. 

Here’s what Dr. Eric Rubin, the Editor-in-Chief of the New England Journal of Medicine had to say during an FDA advisory meeting on child Covid vaccines.

Dr. Eric Rubin: “We’re never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and that’s just the way it goes. That’s how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines.”

Very scientific and comforting Dr Rubin. Guess at dosage. Inject all the kids and see what happens.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/sick-evil-people-buried-6-hours-fda-video-giving-children-vax-dr-eric-rubin-says-never-going-learn-safe-unless-start-giving/

[phalanx]

He's 24, just got married this month, and I doubt he has the money to hire a lawyer.

Some Lawyers don't charge anything upfront to take the case. Only if they win the case. You see a lot of that in the oil field.

[Buckskin]

Hope I'm wrong, but he is likely to have a very strong reaction to the second shot.   Seems that those who have had covid react violently to the second whack, since he is just over it his immune reaction will be strong.

[Dee]

He's 24, just got married this month, and I doubt he has the money to hire a lawyer.

Some Lawyers don't charge anything upfront to take the case. Only if they win the case. You see a lot of that in the oil field.

Most people don't know that some lawyers at times will take a case on a contingency. The key is to find a "like minded lawyer".
I let my children, and grandchildren, make their own decisions. If they want my advice, I'll give it.
They all know where I stand on it, but I give'm their space. I didn't agree with his decision, but it was his to make.
Some folks stand up, and some sit back down.

[Dee]

Hope I'm wrong, but he is likely to have a very strong reaction to the second shot.   Seems that those who have had covid react violently to the second whack, since he is just over it his immune reaction will be strong.

I did tell him that, and that without your health, you don't have anything. I guess he chose to roll the dice.
It'll end up however it ends up.

[mcbammer]

Hope I'm wrong, but he is likely to have a very strong reaction to the second shot.   Seems that those who have had covid react violently to the second whack, since he is just over it his immune reaction will be strong.

I did tell him that, and that without your health, you don't have anything. I guess he chose to roll the dice.
It'll end up however it ends up.

   Those of us over 60 know how true your words are . I really dont know what I would have done at 24 .    If I had it to do all over again ,I  know I would have changed some of my decisions .

[Casull]

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   Sad day...when the government can force anyone to take any type of medication, shot or course of treatment.

That's nothing new.  Vaccinations for school children and soldiers have been required for decades.

[O-mega]

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   Sad day...when the government can force anyone to take any type of medication, shot or course of treatment.

That's nothing new.  Vaccinations for school children and soldiers have been required for decades.

But none with the VAERS data this one has, heck some vaccines were stopped after just a few deaths, this one has hundreds.

[Casull]

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   Sad day...when the government can force anyone to take any type of medication, shot or course of treatment.

That's nothing new.  Vaccinations for school children and soldiers have been required for decades.

But none with the VAERS data this one has, heck some vaccines were stopped after just a few deaths, this one has hundreds.

No argument there.

[pastorp]

I don’t remember being given choice in being vaccinated against childhood diseases. We went to the armory in St. Petersburg, Florida and went through the line. They shot the vaccines into our arm with some kind of air gun. Not trying to start a argument, but how is that any different than taking the shot today?

Friends that went to Nam in the 60s were injected with all kinds of inoculations to protect them for diseases that were prevelant where they would be stationed. Most of them tell me they were not even told what the shots were for. Just line up and take your shots.

[Dee]

I don’t remember being given choice in being vaccinated against childhood diseases. We went to the armory in St. Petersburg, Florida and went through the line. They shot the vaccines into our arm with some kind of air gun. Not trying to start a argument, but how is that any different than taking the shot today?

To your point, I believe those vaccines you and I took to go to school, actually worked.
This one has proven not to work, but the government is using it to bring everybody under government control, or they can't work.
Shots required to go to a public school is entirely different, than shots required to make a living for you and your family.
Ignoring natural immunity, documented facts of not working, and adverse reactions.

[Buckskin]

I don’t remember being given choice in being vaccinated against childhood diseases. We went to the armory in St. Petersburg, Florida and went through the line. They shot the vaccines into our arm with some kind of air gun. Not trying to start a argument, but how is that any different than taking the shot today?

Friends that went to Nam in the 60s were injected with all kinds of inoculations to protect them for diseases that were prevelant where they would be stationed. Most of them tell me they were not even told what the shots were for. Just line up and take your shots.

Wonder if those were new technology, experimental vaccines that were pushed through at record pace and for health concerns that 99.8% of the population survive?  Wonder if they were still able to get and pass along those targeted diseases?  Wonder if they were for cold like viruses that we've never been able to vaccine our way out of?  Wonder if the entire population was forces to receive the same shots and the government had purchased said vaccines for entire population and for boosters for several years?

[Mule 11]

I don’t remember being given choice in being vaccinated against childhood diseases. We went to the armory in St. Petersburg, Florida and went through the line. They shot the vaccines into our arm with some kind of air gun. Not trying to start a argument, but how is that any different than taking the shot today?

Friends that went to Nam in the 60s were injected with all kinds of inoculations to protect them for diseases that were prevelant where they would be stationed. Most of them tell me they were not even told what the shots were for. Just line up and take your shots.

One more time for those with comprehension skills.

This is not a vaccine.

This is a genetic therapy drug. Also experimental gene therapy drug.

So. To answer your redundant question that has been brought up many times here.

That is the difference very basically stated.