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The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« on: December 14, 2020, 09:24:00 AM »
Space.com

Virgin Galactic traces SpaceShipTwo launch abort to bad computer connection

A bad computer connection foiled Virgin Galactic's attempt to reach space over the weekend, company officials said.

VSS Unity, Virgin Galactic's newest SpaceShipTwo vehicle, lifted off Saturday morning (Dec. 12) from New Mexico's Spaceport America beneath the wings of its carrier airplane, VMS Eve.

Unity's destination was suborbital space, but it didn't get there. Eve dropped Unity at an altitude of about 50,000 feet (15,000 meters) as planned, but the space plane's onboard rocket motor didn't light up properly, and pilots C.J. Sturckow and Dave Mackay brought Unity down for a premature but safe landing at Spaceport America.

Virgin Galactic quickly diagnosed the issue. Post-flight analyses have revealed "that the onboard computer which monitors the propulsion system lost connection, triggering a fail-safe scenario that intentionally halted ignition of the rocket motor," Virgin Galactic representatives wrote in a blog post published Saturday. "This system, like others on the spaceship, is designed such that it defaults to a safe state whenever power or communication with sensors is lost."

The company will continue examining data from Saturday's test mission, then fly Unity again when the space plane is ready.

"We remain focused on the test-flight program we have previously announced, beginning with a repeat of this test flight, which included two pilots and NASA payloads," Virgin Galactic CEO Michael Colglazier said in the same statement.

"This will be followed by another test flight which will include mission specialists in the cabin," he added. "And following that flight, we will have another test flight which will include our founder, Sir Richard Branson. We look forward to sharing information on our next flight window in the near future."

The six-passenger, two-pilot SpaceShipTwo is designed to take people and payloads to suborbital space and back. People who make this trip will experience a few minutes of weightlessness and see the curvature of Earth against the blackness of space. More than 600 people have booked a seat aboard the space plane, at a price, most recently, of $250,000 apiece, Virgin Galactic representatives have said.

Those customers cannot fly until VSS Unity finishes its test campaign. To date, that campaign has included two piloted missions to suborbital space, in December 2018 and February 2019. Both of those flights departed from the Mojave Air and Space Port in southeastern California, near the headquarters of The Spaceship Company, Virgin Galactic's manufacturing subsidiary.

Unity moved from Mojave to Spaceport America, Virgin Galactic's commercial hub, in February of this year. Saturday's mission was supposed to be Unity's first spaceflight from Spaceport America, and the first human spaceflight ever to depart from New Mexico.

Mike Wall is the author of "Out There" (Grand Central Publishing, 2018; illustrated by Karl Tate), a book about the search for alien life. Follow him on Twitter @michaeldwall. Follow us on Twitter @Spacedotcom or Facebook.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2020, 05:00:25 AM »
When I saw the announcement that they were going to fly my first though was" I wonder what will go wrong this time?" Virgin Galactic need to give all it's assets to Space X, a company that can actually get a few things done.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2020, 05:15:46 AM »
Putting all your eggs in one basket is NEVER a good idea.
The U.S. aerospace program and even aircraft program before that thrived because of competition , not same poo, same pile.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2020, 06:02:27 AM »
The age old dream of taking off, not launching. Reaching space, coming back and landing like an aircraft has never worked out very well. Yeager knew this but he still wanted to try in the F104. It would take big jet engines then switching over to rockets. And Sub orbital only.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2020, 09:15:17 AM »
Putting all your eggs in one basket is NEVER a good idea.
The U.S. aerospace program and even aircraft program before that thrived because of competition , not same poo, same pile.

So far Virgin Galactic has been all hat and no cattle for years. They aren't competing with anyone.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2020, 09:21:28 AM »
Putting all your eggs in one basket is NEVER a good idea.
The U.S. aerospace program and even aircraft program before that thrived because of competition , not same poo, same pile.

So far Virgin Galactic has been all hat and no cattle for years. They aren't competing with anyone.

So has that expensive spaceport. Waist of money. A lot of money.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2020, 11:31:57 AM »
Not totally

As of August 2019 a first flight was planned for the end of 2019, and this has slipped to 19 February 2020. On June 25, 2020 Virgin Galactic carried out its second successful glide flight of its spaceship over Spaceport America in southern New Mexico.

I actually find Space X Mars fantasy to be just as much a silly notion.
Virgin is simply trying to expand the X-15 type program which was going to do what they are trying with the X-20 but Von Braun's space capsule won out.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2020, 04:10:29 AM »
Not totally

As of August 2019 a first flight was planned for the end of 2019, and this has slipped to 19 February 2020. On June 25, 2020 Virgin Galactic carried out its second successful glide flight of its spaceship over Spaceport America in southern New Mexico.

I actually find Space X Mars fantasy to be just as much a silly notion.
Virgin is simply trying to expand the X-15 type program which was going to do what they are trying with the X-20 but Von Braun's space capsule won out.

I think Mars is pretty well off the table now. Politically, as well as any kind of a reality.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 04:22:37 AM »
Branson is simply trying to make money selling short flights to rich people. He's basically a con man and conned NM into building the Space Port that has been a big hole in the desert that has been filled with a lot of taxdollars. Just another idea that Fat Bill Richardson jumped behind when he was governor that has been a big drain on the state budget with little or no return. The space port, a huge super computer that went nowhere and the last I heard is still costing money for storage, and the rail runner are all examples. Oh, I was about to forget the rebate deal with the movie and tv industry.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2020, 04:39:57 AM »
SpaceX and Blue Origin don't give Virgin much credit.

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2020, 03:49:14 AM »
Why would they?

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Re: The Virgin spacecraft goes flop.
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2020, 04:07:48 AM »
There are rumors of SpaceX and Blue Origin merging some of their activities.  We still don't see much coming out of Boeing.