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Offline Argent 88

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There is water on the moon.
« on: October 26, 2020, 09:45:29 AM »

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2020, 09:52:33 AM »
Told ya the other day it was there.

I had just came here to post the story and found your post already here. Since you only gave the link I'll paste the full story for folks who don't like to click links:

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NASA announced it has discovered water on the sunlit surface of the moon.

The water was spotted near the Clavius crater, one of the largest crater formations on the celestial satellite and one that can be seen with the naked eye, Paul Hayne, a planetary scientist at the University of Colorado, said on a conference call with the press. Hayne is the lead author of one of the studies published on the topic.

Casey Honniball, lead author of the other study, said there are between 100 and 400 parts per million of water, or "roughly the equivalent of a 12-ounce bottle of water within a cubic meter of lunar soil."

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This illustration highlights the Moon’s Clavius Crater with an illustration depicting water trapped in the lunar soil there, along with an image of NASA’s Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy (SOFIA) that found sunlit lunar water. (Credit: NASA)

“We had indications that H2O – the familiar water we know – might be present on the sunlit side of the Moon,” said Paul Hertz, NASA's director of the Astrophysics Division in the Science Mission Directorate, in a statement. “Now we know it is there. This discovery challenges our understanding of the lunar surface and raises intriguing questions about resources relevant for deep space exploration.”

The study led by Honniball found the presence of water directly on the surface, while Hayne's study speculated that water may be trapped in "small spatial scales" all over the surface of the moon.


Researchers have known for some time about the existence of that water on the moon, having first discovered water vapor as early as 1971. In 2009, the first evidence of frozen water on the surface was discovered.

On the call, Jacob Bleacher, chief exploration scientist for NASA’s Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate, said the results are "exciting for human exploration," but there are greater implications for it. "Understanding where the water is will help us determine where to send Artemis astronauts on the moon," Bleacher explained.


The new studies note it could be significantly more accessible than previously thought. As such, the water could be used for drinking, fuel supply and other use cases.

Water was previously believed to only exist on areas of the moon that are always in shadows and do not receive sunlight, making them dangerous and frigid for astronauts to access.

“Prior to the SOFIA observations, we knew there was some kind of hydration,” Honniball added in the statement. “But we didn’t know how much, if any, was actually water molecules – like we drink every day – or something more like drain cleaner.”

The discovery was made from NASA's Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy (SOFIA), described as "the world’s largest airborne observatory."

SOFIA is a modified Boeing 747 airplane capable of flying high in Earth's atmosphere, allowing for its 9-foot telescope to get a "clear view of the universe and objects in our solar system." It is able to observe infrared wavelengths that are capable of detecting "phenomena impossible to see with visible light," NASA added.

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In 2018, a separate group of researchers published a study that suggested water on the moon may be more accessible than first thought.

The findings come in advance of NASA's Artemis program, which is intended to land American astronauts on the moon by 2024, as well as establish a sustainable human presence on Earth’s natural satellite.


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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2020, 11:17:59 AM »
The ultimate goal is Mars. Out of all the other planets in our solar system, Mars is the only one even remotely inhabital.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mars_program

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2020, 11:46:12 AM »
We don't have very good WiFi out here, we have to use some kind of a hot spot. So trying to post like you did is sometimes difficult.

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2020, 12:02:33 PM »
I have high speed cable internet. Supposedly 100 megs, sometimes I get more and sometimes less but it's always above 90 megs so pretty darn fast.


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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2020, 01:29:28 PM »
I have high speed cable internet. Supposedly 100 megs, sometimes I get more and sometimes less but it's always above 90 megs so pretty darn fast.

I don't look for us to get anything like that in the near future. Tried windsteam and Hughes net. They both sucked. For Wifi only updates we go to a friends house in town.

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2020, 04:35:29 PM »
Probably more resources scattered around
the solar system than we'll ever know of.
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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 09:16:20 AM »
I have two options, Hughes.net and the rural telephone co-op wireless system. I limp along with at the very best 19 wireless megs and I seldom have a pause when streaming video. Fiber optics are only three quarters of a mile away but they will not extend their service. All I can say is the 19 megs are a heck of a lot better than what I could get before they installed this system. Try 3 megs that dropped to 1 1/2 during the main usage hours.

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2020, 10:28:19 AM »
That's the way it was here for a long time after I moved here. They had fiber optic cable service on both ends of this road I live on. It's less than 10 miles end to end. But they wouldn't extend it to us. Finally they did tho a few years ago and it sure is nice.

No more satellite dish for TV or slow AT&T phone line now.


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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2020, 11:32:42 AM »
That's the way it was here for a long time after I moved here. They had fiber optic cable service on both ends of this road I live on. It's less than 10 miles end to end. But they wouldn't extend it to us. Finally they did tho a few years ago and it sure is nice.

No more satellite dish for TV or slow AT&T phone line now.

Wish we had that. We were using Hughes for awhile, but it sucked also. It became about like the old dial up.
Wind stream was worse.

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2020, 12:19:04 PM »
Long ago we had some kinda satellite service I think was called Prime Star. It was actually pretty darn good. I believe it was just TV service and in those days I had to have AT&T land line phone service.

Someone maybe Dish or Direct bought them out tho and service went to crap.

I was sure glad when Cable One decided to bring the fiber optic cable service on down the highway to us. I now have my TV, internet and phone service all from them.


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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2020, 06:39:53 AM »
We used to have CBS and NBC with a good picture, PBS was a little fuzzy, and ABC that was always a little snowy and just turned into complete snow about 9:30 PM. It took a 40' high line pole with a rotor on top with a 5' long  pipe above it to get those. When Prime Star came out I jumped on it like a hungry dog on a bone but still had to use the antennae for local stations. Then it went away and I got Direct TV to replace it which was new and several years later switched to Dish because they had local stations and I could ditch the antennae. I keep Dish for the local channels but have cut the package way down now that I can stream most of what's out there.

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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2020, 08:14:02 AM »
Some people use Apple TV. But from what Ive seen it's nothing to brag about.

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2020, 08:32:42 AM »
Ummm, is there cable TV on the moon too? ;D

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2020, 08:57:42 AM »
Yeah I think they got cable on the moon before we here out here where I am.


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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2020, 07:35:51 AM »
Some people use Apple TV. But from what Ive seen it's nothing to brag about.

Plain Apple is just another way for Apple to keep their hand in your pocket as you have to pay for almost everything. We have a free year of Apple+ due to the wife replacing her iphone that cratered with a new one. It has more content but it's not worth it's monthly cost if you are subscribing IMO. When our free year is up it's gone.

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Re: There is water on the moon.
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2020, 07:52:23 AM »
It ain't worth a crap without wifi, which we don't have anyway. Had it a couple of times with wind stream and Hughes net. But they both sucked after a week or so. Hot spot is really good, but it isn't wifi, I wish it was.