Philippine modified Thompson Sub-machingun

[Bob Riebe]

Back when there were more sub-gun web sites, there were two of these, each slightly different for sale on Philippine online sales sight.

Not cheap but no where near the asinine prices charged over here.

One took drums and the other did not; type of stock used depends on who made it.

Back then there was a site with a gent who had been there and said they were very well constructed.

If I won a lottery, I would rush to get a FFL type 8 or 11 Class 1 and get me one or two.

[ironglows]

  Some like broccoli some don't..To each his own I guess.    


 My brother has a Thompson (semi-auto only) with both magazines. I have fired  it, using both magazines. 
They were perhaps state-of-the-art during WW2, but I don't really like it very much.  To me, it handles too "klunky".  By that, I mean it is near like holding a piece of 2X6, 3 feet long.
  There was another gun in WW2, that ran full auto, but was much nicer to handle and shoot.  That was the .30 caliber carbine, I fired that rifle in both configurations, in fact the .30 caliber carbine was part of my tanker issue (semi auto), along with a Colt 1911 and an M3 "grease gun", the only full auto aboard..not counting the .30 caliber MG and Ma Deuce !
   Both the Thompson and the carbine were a bit to prone to jamming for my taste, although the grease gun, not nearly so much.

The grease gun was more like the AK47..built simple, cheap and dependable, even under cruddy conditions.... that's not that I allowed my M3 to get cruddy..

  If I recall correctly, it seems the government paid $7 and some change for each M3.

[Bob Riebe]

I have shot a number of full auto Thompsons and a Grease gun; I could have shot an MP5 and others but they just did not interest me enough.
I did not think much of the M3,  too small for me, but the Thompson to me , and they are more accurate than simple spray and pray, is the cat's meow.

[DEACONLLB]

When I hit Korea in January of 1952 I was issued a US 30 M2 carbine it had a leaver on the side just forward of the bolt handle that when flipped forward you were on full auto. As long as you kept your firing to short burst 3 to 4 rounds at a time you could pretty much stay on target after that not too great but I loved mine but very rarely did I shoot it on full auto.

Deaconllb

[ironglows]

  The .30 cal carbine was liked by many GIs..for it's handy size and  handling qualities.

  It has been claimed that it is the reason why the Ruger 10/22 caught on so quickly..and I suppose, why the 10/22 has a barrel band.

  In fact, it appears Ruger has produced a "tribute to the .30 carbine"...Ruger..

  https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/ruger-1022-m1-carbine-review/369757

 Available many places, such as E Arthur Brown and Cheaper Than Dirt..and likely many  others.

  A fist full of nostalgia for older GIs..for $352 MSRP.

   

 

     

[ironglows]

The M3 grease gun was a remarkable piece in itself.  An absolutely close-quarters weapon.   the firing pin was it's blow back bolt.
  Operating on the same principle as a .22 auto with it's blow back design, the bolt was considerably larger and heavier than a .22, and the firing pin was an immovable projection machined on the bolt.

  Article has a cutaway view:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun#/media/File:Basic_Function_M3_SMG_Illustration.jpg
  With bolt drawn back and safety on, the gun was primed for action.  Release safety, and pulling the trigger simply releases the bolt, and the gun keeps firing until the the trigger is released, interrupting the process by catching and holding the bolt.
  It is probably one of the best designs for urban "room clearing"  operations.

  A model was even produced which had a curved barrel for shooting around corners.  It seems that would be handy for clearing rooms in mid eastern concrete houses.  Clear the room before even showing oneself...providing he knows that only terrorists are within. !
  https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=141246

[DEACONLLB]

When I first arrived in Korea all Tec, and master sergeants and all officers were issued the 1911 45 ACP but about the last of August they pulled all the Tec and Master sargents 1911 and gave them the M3 grease guns as a replacement. I was able to borrow  my first sargents and fire it for a few rounds. For close quarters it would be ok.

Deaconllb

[ironglows]

  I figured that if I were to get smoked out of my tank..I would use up the grease gun for nearby enemy..then carry the carbine into the field..
   The 1911...I figured to throw that at the enemy..for as good as I was with that !

  To be fair though, by 1955, when I became a tanker, those pistols had for the most part, gone through WW2 and the Korean conflict, so the accuracy may have suffered.

[DEACONLLB]

What we had for all types of equipment was everything from ww2 from mess kits to jeeps, trucks, half tracks, quad 40 on half tracks lot of the jeeps as well as weapon carriers had ring mounts with 5O cal machine guns mounted on them sleeping bags shoes canteen belt and canteens  everything was from ww2 most of the army guys had m1 Garand's as well as all the south Korean army guys  in 1948 the air force went from army air force as it had been in ww2 to the US Air Force, some of the men who had stayed in after WW2 were still wearing the army OD uniforms and hats and had not received their new blue uniforms. we had the old army trench coats to wear in the winter as well as the old army ponchos.

Deaconllb

[ironglows]

  My older brother enlisted in the Army in 1947, when just out of high school.  He was soon switched to Air Force, and served at White Sands, then in Hawaii at Wheeler field Sadly, he came home in 1950, only to be killed by a drunk driver. That driver had no brakes on his car, but had many beer cans in it ..both empty and full !
  I understand that the US was winding down from WW2 and placing some hopes in the UN, so they did not fund the military as should have been done.
  The result; the troops had slim pickings in  field gear, supplies and equipment.
  That's one of the reasons why the retreat from the Chosin reservoir, turned into the "frozen Chosen" for many soldiers and marines..

  I served with many who endured the Korean conflict, although if I were to make it, I would have had to quit school at 15, and joined the Army or Marines...
   Not likely to happen for several reasons, my folks not being the least of which!

  I had another brother who served aboard the USS New Jersey, during the Korean venture. I officiated his funeral 2 years ago.