Are we all debt slaves to the united states incorporated?

[Sandhillbilly]

This is a long video, you may have to take it in pieces.






https://youtu.be/Vcz9hig8qdc

[Sandhillbilly]

https://missoulian.com/news/opinion/mailbag/federal-government-us-is-a-corporation-not-a-country/article_59915a88-4ca4-5516-853d-caf1f81672f2.html

[Sandhillbilly]

https://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/two-us-constitutions

[Sandhillbilly]

https://youtu.be/Tc94nIzD-Dg

[ironglows]

Sorry, but your first video is awfully long... and the second one doesn't register on my screen.
   Keep in mind, many folk owe too much..because they buy too much.  Too many toys, such as ATVs, bikes, larger, fancier homes/vehicles than we really need.


   Yet, we do need debt to keep the economy rolling, but I won't contribute, by having any monthly payments for home, wheels, toys or anything else other than utility bills.


  Here is a neat little tutorial (29 min) which explains the economy well !


 [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzoX7zEZ6h4[/size]


   

[Dee]

I just bought a an almost new Ram pickup. Looks brand new, but it ain't. God has blessed my work efforts and I paid cash.
Its scary to me, to see folks my age in debt.

[Sandhillbilly]

It was just before the Civil War that banksters decided that chattel slavery was too costly, and was to be replaced by bonded slavery which is far more profitable.  Paying interest is how you enrichen those intent on your demise.....TM7

Yes. And then in 1871 the city state of Washington DC  was set up, and the United states  was incorporated into a corporation. Then in 1913, we got the federal reserve act, the income tax, and appointment of US senators was taken away from the states and were made elected by the people. Prior to this senators were like a presidential cabinet appointment. The governor would put forward senate candidates and then they would have to be approved by the state legislature.  The duty of US senators constitutionally was to make sure any bill passed by the house of representatives did not violate states rights. Also that any cabinet appointees  would uphold states right. That any treaties  with other countries did not violate states rights. In essence, the senate was the guardian of the rights of the states, period. This was taken away when senators began being elected by popular vote.

[Dee]

It was just before the Civil War that banksters decided that chattel slavery was too costly, and was to be replaced by bonded slavery which is far more profitable.  Paying interest is how you enrichen those intent on your demise.....TM7

[Dee]

It was just before the Civil War that banksters decided that chattel slavery was too costly, and was to be replaced by bonded slavery which is far more profitable.  Paying interest is how you enrichen those intent on your demise.....TM7

Explain please how payin interest on a loan is designed to lead to your own demise?

[Sandhillbilly]

Dee, if we were still on a dollar for dollar gold standard a small interest charge would be fine, say 2%. But since 1970 we have been on a full fiat money system, backed by nothing. What has happened is our dollar has since lost value at a ridiculous rate.  When this first started to happen people were told it was great! Your house is worth more, your wages are going up, ect. But what was really happening was the dollar was losing value, interst rates  went up, as the dollar lost value you needed more credit just to survive. Very hard to pay cash for a car, loan terms for mortgages  got lengthened more and more, they start telling people you should get a credit card. Then you needed both spouses working. And it goes on and on.

[ironglows]

I just bought a an almost new Ram pickup. Looks brand new, but it ain't. God has blessed my work efforts and I paid cash.
Its scary to me, to see folks my age in debt.

  Years ago, I used to buy new..but in recent years, I have moved toward being second owner.  That way I pay much less for the vehicle, and pay in cash. Vehicles run many more miles than than used to, and some brands offer much longer warrantees. 


 Some brands offer complete coverage for 60,000 miles, and drive train for 100,000 miles. 
Say you buy one of those at 36,000 miles, the point at which some warrantees expire. That means you still have 24,000 complete coverage, and 64,000 drive train coverage!
 
   Not bad for a car or truck, which may sell for as much as 25% less than new.

[Sandhillbilly]

https://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-kill-your-strawman-and-be-truly.html?m=1

[ironglows]

Oops!  Sorry for hijacking the thread..

[Sandhillbilly]

Oops!  Sorry for hijacking the thread..

I dont see talking about buying g used and paying cash is hijacking the thread IG, kind of right in line with the subject as far as I am concerned.

[Doublebass73]

Debt is slavery, plain and simple.


Here is a very interesting interview recorded in 1949 with a man named Fountain Hughes who was an actual slave. He was around 100 years old during this interview. He was born into slavery and lived through the civil war. The most interesting part of this interview to me was at the beginning where this man, a former slave talked about how he never bought anything on credit and always paid cash. This man, a former slave understood that debt is just another form of slavery.

[Dee]

Ok, I see what you guys are talking about, but for the most part, this sort of "slavery", if that's what it is.


Is voluntary.

[Sandhillbilly]

Ok, I see what you guys are talking about, but for the most part, this sort of "slavery", if that's what it is.


Is voluntary.

Not exactly voluntary, try this, take the number off your  birth certificate, write it down, call a stock  broker give him that number, and ask him what the value of that stock is. Look at your drivers license, or any other document that has what is supposed to be your name on it. It is spelled in all capital letter, with your middle initial, rather than your middle.name in full. Example. JOHN K DOE. Is that how you sign your name? No it isn't. John Kay Doe is the free living man, the physical human being. JOHN K DOE is a corporation named after that physical human being or your straw man. If you didnt pick this up from the videos or articles I posted then you didnt read or listen to them at all. The act of the 1871 established  the  UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INC, that is when what we think is our government went from being a constitutional  republic to a corporation and all of us were made employees of that corporation rather than citizens. Please take the time to read and listen to the info I posted.

[Sandhillbilly]

   Yet, we do need debt to keep the economy rolling, but I won't contribute, by having any monthly payments for home, wheels, toys or anything else other than utility bills.


IG, I was only 5 years old in 1970 when Nixon took us off the gold standard entirely you should remember better that me, what was the average term of a mortgage? Ten years? Fifteen? Now its 30. Then most people paid cash even for a new car, credit cards were almost unheard of,. What is called inflation is really the dollar.losing value due to so much printed money in circulation. If you read the articles I posted one tells how debt works, when you get a loan you sign a promissory note  to pay that loan back but what most people dont know is that your bank.sends that promissory note  to the federal reserve and the fed gives that money to your bank and the note is in essence paid in full right then, but you still spend 30 years paying that money.back at interest.

[ironglows]

I don't claim that I never financed anything, but I have always kept it to a minimum. I have told my son & grandkids....
  "the more debt you owe, the more you are a slave to those you owe it to"!


  Curiously, having some debt can help.Last vehicle I bought, I went to a couple dealers, looking for what I wanted.  I was surprised to find out that the dealer wanted to check my credit score right off.


  No problem, and they found it well over 800, but they did mention that it would have been even higher if I had shown more recent loans. 
  Point#1, don't tell the salesman right off, that you plan on paying cash..  Let him/her calculate the price assuming you will take a loan..from which they get a piece of the action.  Save the cash till after a price is agreed upon.


  Home mortgages.. now I try my memory!  I bought my first home in 1968, as I recall, the interest was 6%.  The wife and I were a bit different, in that we both worked and also ran a very early morning paper route..starting at 0400 hours, 7 days per week.


  The money earned there was all stashed away, along with other savings.  Thus, when it came to buying a modest, country home w/7 acres, we paid 50% down.
   Subsequent homes, and there were several, were all at least 50% down and paid off within 7 years or less.   I HATE being in debt!


    Something many of we retired and being on a fixed income, must consider..  When the present government spending comes home to roost, and it soon will bring on a major inflation, which in effect will cripple our present spending margins.

[Sandhillbilly]

The tax-inflation-debt pyramid scheme is all leading to fiat currency  attaining its true value....TM7

Which is ZERO

[ironglows]

The tax-inflation-debt pyramid scheme is all leading to fiat currency  attaining its true value....TM7

Which is ZERO

  You are saying then, that our dollars are nothing more than a "promise", only slightly better than politician's election promises !  Right ?

[Sandhillbilly]

 listen to this, this is part of what I've been saying on this thread.






https://youtu.be/B2Qcs4JVIV0

[Sandhillbilly]

The tax-inflation-debt pyramid scheme is all leading to fiat currency  attaining its true value....TM7

Yes, it's just paper, not backed by anything except the government saying this is money, and this is what it is worth. And without a gold standard anytime congress passes a bill that it takes money to back up it gets "printed", it's like giving a teenager an american Express card and telling them it's ok if they run wild with it. If we were on a one to one gold standard, meaning that ther was one dollar of currency for one dollar of gold we held there would only be a finite amount in circulation, and that would hold congress in check as far as spending goes. Now, after 1913 following the passage of the federal reserve act they started fractional banking, at ten to one. Meaning that we had 10 dollars in currency printed for every dollar of gold in reserve. This is why FDR had to outlaw possession of gold coinage and bullion by private citizens. When the great depression hit people who had saving tried going g to their bank and withdrawing their money in gold but the banks only had 10 cents on the dollar






Which is ZERO

  You are saying then, that our dollars are nothing more than a "promise", only slightly better than politician's election promises !  Right ?

[Sandhillbilly]

https://youtu.be/OF-lXhBjgvA

[Sandhillbilly]

https://youtu.be/fgwhKP7TecU

[Sandhillbilly]

https://www.infowars.com/a-brief-history-of-the-gold-standard-with-a-focus-on-the-united-states/

[Dee]

If one borrows money for things like automobiles, homes, ect, I don't know why one wouldn't expect to pay interest.

I financed a house for a young couple several years ago on a 10 note. It would have been pretty stupid on my part to tie up that much of MY MONEY for 10 years with no incentive for that amount of MY MONEY to not be accessible to me.

Banks, and loan companies are no different.

As for Alex Jones? I'll take a pass.

[Sandhillbilly]

If one borrows money for things like automobiles, homes, ect, I don't know why one wouldn't expect to pay interest.

I financed a house for a young couple several years ago on a 10 note. It would have been pretty stupid on my part to tie up that much of MY MONEY for 10 years with no incentive for that amount of MY MONEY to not be accessible to me.

Banks, and loan companies are no different.

As for Alex Jones? I'll take a pass.

Nothing wrong with interest, up to a point. Alex Jones didnt write the article, just posted it. Did you read it? Explains the gold standard very well, and as far as I'm concerned  why we need to go back to it

[Dee]

No I don't read alex Jones. I get the gold standard, but there isn't enough gold on the planet to cover the amount of promissory notes the government has printed that we refer to as money.

[Sandhillbilly]

No I don't read alex Jones. I get the gold standard, but there isn't enough gold on the planet to cover the amount of promissory notes the government has printed that we refer to as money.

Our dollars will be revalued when we remove ourselves from the fiat currency that is foisted upon us by the private western central Rothschild controlled bank we call the federal reserve. When the fed is found to have been in loved in corrupt, illegal  practices we will not be required to repay all that debt, we just erase it. Then, our currency will be revalued based on our gold reserve. If we hold 10 billion in gold, then that is all the currency we can print, the good news there is that at that point our dollars will be worth much more than the are now. Just so you understand I just used 10 billion as an example. Gold also keeps inflation in check, an ounce of gold is always an ounce of gold, it never changes