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Offline Bob Riebe

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USAC Stock Car Racing
« on: July 22, 2020, 06:16:45 PM »
Being a gearhead, and former racing fanatic, till BS rules made it a farce, I loved sports car racing but stock car racing , especially when AMC got in, always fascinated me.
USAC had a series just as big as NASCAR, especially in the late seventies.

What killed it was not NASCAR money buying up tracks but the same thing the drove USAC from Indianpolis, the people running USAC cut off their noses to spite their faces, as an analogy.  (This is also what killed SCCA road racing the boys who ran the Trans-Am and Can-Am. )
After USAC ruined itself, ASA and ARTGO tried to fill in the gap but NASCAR money literally killed them.
Here is a graph of USAC Stock Car Racing leaders over the years.
If you are not a big racing fan these may be -- Never heard of him -- but 90 percent of these names were well known in there hay-days.

http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/usacstock.htm

Before USAC it was the Triple A, yes that AAA put stock car racing on the map:
The AAA:
The earliest and most well known racing organization was the Automobile Association of America. Yes, the AAA that today is best known for helping its members out when they and their car is in trouble on the highway, and 100 years later ironically became a NASCAR sponsor, was at one point the premier racing organization in America. Its racing arm was run by the infamous Contest Board, formed in 1909 and known for its elitism and stubbornness. The Contest Board dissolved and AAA left racing following the 1955 Le Mans tragedy.
To the Contest Board, AAA races were the only races that mattered. If you were caught running an “outlaw race” (Not AAA sanctioned), you were banned from AAA races for X amount of races, even if you were a major star such as the legendary Barney Oldfield. Oldfield, the very first national champion under any points system in America, was the king of the local track but often struggled on the big stages, such as Indianapolis.
Why did the AAA succeed in spite of this handicap? Three basic reasons:
1. It guaranteed a payout based off of race attendance- drivers typically got about 60 percent of the purse. It wasn’t rare for outlaw promoters to hightail it before the race was over with the purse.
2. It established the first points championship in America, although this was made by the Contest Board’s predecessor, the Racing Board.
3. Most importantly, it sanctioned the biggest and most important race in America, the Indianapolis 500.
Most tracks of the day were either made by boards or were horse tracks, with the cars generally being either motorcycles or sportier racing cars called midgets. Stock car races happened of course, but generally they were regarded as a side show in the racing world akin to the demolition derby or stunt driving. Most races were in the northeast, not so much in the south although there were tracks down there. On the insanely fast and insanely dangerous board tracks of the time, injury and death were frequent; two of stock car racing’s great mechanics, Red Vogt and Smokey Yunick, had horrible injuries from motorcycle races on the boards. The board tracks are not around anymore, due to decay, demolition, or storms wiping them out. They were ahead of their time, though, providing high speeds and having banking akin to that of today’s Sprint Cup tracks such as Charlotte or Atlanta, whose cities were also home to similar 1.5 mile board tracks 100 years ago.
Moonshiners and Atlanta:
Some historians have said they do not feel moonshine played a significant role in stock car racing. Many say it did. The reality is that both are correct.
The often romanticized and simplified version of events states that a bunch of whiskey runners would argue over who was fastest, then carved out an oval in a field and raced each other, isn’t very feasible. The reality is that they wouldn’t have carved a track out in the middle of the field when there was a road right there for them to use. Yes, the very first “stock” car races were actually illegal street races run with heavily modified bootlegger cars (The general favorite was the Ford V-8), built for hauling so much liquor the rear end would be unusually high when it wasn’t hauling anything. More on this will come in the next article.
Atlanta, Georgia, was basically the first city of the New South. It was the New York of it all, a far cry from such places as nearby Dawsonville. When Prohibition hit in the 1920’s, suddenly an entire city didn’t have any legal liquor to drink away the hard day’s night. Dawsonville was and is a speck on the map compared to Atlanta, but Dawsonville had something Atlanta wanted, nigh it craved and demanded, moonshine.
Many moonshiners were locals just trying to make a little money while giving the finger towards the law, believing that it was their God given right to make moonshine. Prohibition during the 1920’s popularized moonshine for the public and made it almost a game for the south. Many local police saw little harm in it, were paid off or knew the moonshiners well. Many a time when a moonshiner was released from jail, the officer who caught him helped him find a good job, home, and a girl. This continued on even when Prohibition ended in the South, as many counties elected to stay dry and continue to ban alcohol. And even in the not dry counties, moonshine was much cheaper than the taxed liquor.
However, there were some men who created entire empires off of the stuff. Al Capone might be the most infamous and his exploits in the world of “real crime” were fueled by moonshine. But unlike Capone, the so called Moonshine Baron of Atlanta, one Raymond Parks, never cared to start toting a machine gun.
Parks, who ran away from the farm at age 14 to run liquor for his uncle and by 20 owned his uncle’s home, like many southern moonshiners, didn’t believe what they were doing was really a crime. He used the money he made off of his moonshining business to become more of a businessman, if semi-legitimate. He at one point owned eight liquor stores in Atlanta. It was technically illegal to own more than two but Parks had his kin (“Every time I went back home I had a new brother or sister”) come up from the farm and put their names as the technical owners, while working for Parks.
Parks, who made sure to never spend too much money on himself (Staying in a small home, only buying expansive cars as a status symbol), even ran a numbers business for a time. His whiskey cars were primarily run by his cousins, “Rapid” Roy Hall and “Lightening” Lloyd Seay, and they were kept together and tinkered with by Red Vogt.
Vogt, who today’s NASCAR fan may at most know him as an answer to a trivia question (“Who coined the term ‘NASCAR’?”), was an absolute genius when it came to engines. He was one of the first to keep a constantly clean shop and demanded all of his employees dress in white like himself; he was afraid of dirt and lint getting into whatever engine he was working on. The shop, located in downtown Atlanta, was known, as indicated by a sign out front, to be open for 24 hours. Vogt would work days at a time, catching cat naps here and there (It wasn’t rare to find him snoozing under a car he was working on, although he never admitted it), then go home and collapse for 14-15 hours.
He often chain smoked and had a rough relationship with his two sons, but he knew how to make an engine work. If you want to know more about Vogt, Speedway Media senior writer Angela Campbell wrote an article on him a couple of years ago. You can find it here.
Daytona Beach:
People have been trying to go fast in Daytona for over 100 years now. During the early part of the 1900’s, speed trials were typically run in February (Hence why Speed Weeks and the Daytona 500 have always been in February), the first in 1903 in nearby Ormond Beach. Alexander Winton drove his Winton Bullet around the beach in record speed of 68.19 MPH, a blistering speed that was unheard of at the time. You must remember that this was in the days before even the first airplane to truly understand the magnitude. Every year following, all sorts of elites or gearheads or innovators made the trip down to marvel at the sights and to try to break world speed records.
Sir Malcolm Campbell attempted to break the 300 mph mark on the beach. By 1935 he was hitting 330 mph top speed but couldn’t bring the average speed of his run to the 300 mark. The final time Campbell took to the beach in his gigantic beast, the 27 foot Bluebird, he spun on the latter half of his run off of the soon to be notorious Daytona sand, but still finished his run with an average speed of around 276 mph. Campbell decided the next year to move his attempts from the beaches of Daytona and nearby Ormond to the Bonneville Salt Flats, where to this day speed trials are attempted.
The City of Daytona Beach was heartbroken. The speed trials had brought a lot of publicity and fan fare to the beach, and they didn’t want to let it slip away. So, in 1936, instead of holding speed trials, they held, ran and promoted by the city, a race.

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Re: USAC Stock Car Racing
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2020, 11:21:42 PM »
One thing which ruins many events IMO, is the profit motive.  The European rallies are a better test of car and driver, as I see it, since they are over all kinds of terrain , in all kinds of weather and conditions. 

...And it would be hard to deny that much of NASCAR's recent contortions concern  $$$$$


  The whole car is tested to the max, uphill, downhill, ice, snow, rain ..The rally taxes brakes lights, cornering (left and right) along with many unexpected obstacles..snow, ice, mud, gravel etc.
   So, how does the profit motive ruin the auto racing sport?  Simple, in order to scrape in great profits, the promoters must run on a closed course..a banked oval..so they can charge dearly for tickets..and the same for food & drink.  I don't know what a hot dog & Coke costs at a NASCAR event, but it is likely well over the usual $5 !


 Euro rallies are held on specified public roads, so trying to sell tickets is a lost cause, and food if desired, is at the curb !


   Most expenses ate covered by the auto manufacturers, who in return gain advertising value.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Rally_Championship
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Re: USAC Stock Car Racing
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2020, 11:31:11 PM »
Rallies run for charity purposes, have the entrants covering the costs, with entrance fees.


  I seriously doubt that NASCAR vehicles could begin to keep with these 1600 cc engined cars on these same courses.   At least as many thrills and spills as NACAR..(853.56 miles)  ...but no big bucks for fat cats..


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP9QpcqzSns


  Profit motive causes strange actions...
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Re: USAC Stock Car Racing
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2020, 06:52:11 AM »
Do not forget many of the rally cars were/are factory rally specials with highly paid factory drivers.

Parnelli Jones won the Baja in a factory backed car; the cars that  ran the mostly defunct African rally , which was the Indy 500 of rallying, were there with factory backing.

If you have time look up the Targa Florio, it was tech. a road race but it ran on paved and dirt roads, literally roads.
That it survived as long as it did was amazing and a testimony to the cajones of cars and driver fifty years ago.

I admit the chances the drivers, and spectators, took in the old super hot factory cars was fantastic.

As far as that goes, PIkes Peak is a timed rally and since after over 100 years and motorcycle rider died there last year, they will no longer allow motorcycles to run there.

The Isle of Man, road race,is really a timed rally on paved roads, a year where no one dies there, is a very, very good year; racing in the U.S. is turning into safety bumper cars.
As a top driver said a long time ago, I wish I remembered who, the gas pedal goes both ways.
In the U.S. international style rallying never took hold because of too many lawyers, and too little money to support it.

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Re: USAC Stock Car Racing
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 01:58:57 PM »
Do not forget many of the rally cars were/are factory rally specials with highly paid factory drivers.

Parnelli Jones won the Baja in a factory backed car; the cars that  ran the mostly defunct African rally , which was the Indy 500 of rallying, were there with factory backing.

If you have time look up the Targa Florio, it was tech. a road race but it ran on paved and dirt roads, literally roads.
That it survived as long as it did was amazing and a testimony to the cajones of cars and driver fifty years ago.

I admit the chances the drivers, and spectators, took in the old super hot factory cars was fantastic.

As far as that goes, PIkes Peak is a timed rally and since after over 100 years and motorcycle rider died there last year, they will no longer allow motorcycles to run there.

The Isle of Man, road race,is really a timed rally on paved roads, a year where no one dies there, is a very, very good year; racing in the U.S. is turning into safety bumper cars.
As a top driver said a long time ago, I wish I remembered who, the gas pedal goes both ways.
In the U.S. international style rallying never took hold because of too many lawyers, and too little money to support it.


  Oh for sure, I have little doubt but the factory sponsored cars are modified nearly as much as the NASCAR vehicles.  The enjoyment as I see it, is the cars running on roads such as we encounter daily.


  I also suspect that not only the lawyers, but the big money operators of closed (ticketed) courses worked hard to to suppress such competition.
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