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https://onenewsnow.com/national-security/2020/04/02/defense-experts-the-bat-is-out-of-the-bag-china

Defense experts: The bat is out of the bag, China


Thursday, April 2, 2020
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Chad Groening, Billy Davis (OneNewsNow.com)

 
Chinese soldiers marchingA veteran national security expert, who has warned for years about China’s growing threat to the West, says others are now waking up to the possibility that China has declared war on the United States.
   
Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy says people are finally listening to early claims that the COVID-19 virus came from an experimental lab, located in Wuhan, not from an infected animal being sold at a seafood market in the city that became ground zero last December.

Do you believe claims that COVID-19 originated from an experimental lab in Wuhan?

Yes – just too much of a coincidence


Yes – and released on purpose, not accidentally

Yes – escaped lab, spread to nearby market



No – U.S. researchers have dismissed it

No – but CCP lied & made bad problem worse

No – deserves to be called ‘conspiracy theory’

A leading critic of China’s communist leaders has been Sen. Tom Cotton, who is being mocked by the Left and the national news media as a “conspiracy theorist” for pointing out that the dangerous Level-4 lab is located in the same city as the outbreak.

 Cotton

China’s ambassador to the United States, Cui Tiankai, called Cotton’s theory “crazy” in a CBS News interview in which the news network treated the Arkansas Republican like an ignorant rube.

U.S.-based researchers insist COVID-19 is not a man-made virus, shooting down Sen. Cotton’s claims, but other lawmakers are now calling out China’s communist leaders for lying to the rest of the world and for covering up the spread of the virus during the critical first weeks of the outbreak.

 Gaffney

In an interview with OneNewsNow, Gaffney says Sen. Cotton deserves credit for pointing a finger at China early on when others were late to do so. 

A former defense official during the Reagan administration, Gaffney recalls that a senior Chinese official acknowledged decades ago the country was working on a covert and illegal biological weapons program.

“The former general secretary of the Communist Party, Deng Xiaoping, created this biological weapons program for the purpose of destroying the people of the United States,” Gaffney alleges.

Chinese Red Guards (B&W)Xiaoping, who is probably unfamiliar to much of the West, rose to power in the Chinese Community Party during the 1970s. Military historians credit Xiaoping for embracing capitalism in order to use outside investments to rebuild the country’s military might, with the goal of an inevitable fight with the U.S. for global dominance.

That war plan dates back to the Cold War during the 1980s, and the United States has since emerged as China's largest trading partner in the world.

Gaffney, who has studied China’s military for decades, says he is aware its military leaders have called for a “colonization” of the United States, which would be possible through biological warfare carried out against the U.S. 

Two-winged evidence: horseshoe bat

Steven Mosher, a human rights activist who leads the Population Research Institute, tells OneNewsNow the evidence that points to the Wuhan lab has a name: the horseshoe bat, which has been the subject of years-long experiments in China.

Bats are infamous for the deadly viruses they carry, and a 2018 medical story about bats and viruses credits Chinese researchers for examining the ability of bats to remain immune to the diseases they carry. According to the story, the researchers worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 

Ugly horseshoe Chinese bat“The argument doesn't depend on whether it's bio-engineered,” Mosher says of the new strain of coronavirus. “We know that there are no horseshoe bat colonies within 500 miles of the city of Wuhan. We know that horseshoe bats were not sold at the Wuhan wet market or the Wuhan seafood market.”

Bill Gertz, the veteran national security reporter at The Washington Times, published a lengthy story this week that put a name with China’s research with horseshoe bats: Tian Junhua, who is considered a key researcher based in Wuhan. 

China’s communist-led media has been boasting about Junhuah and his research for years, Gertz reported, citing this Communist Youth documentary featuring Junhua and others capturing bats (pictured above) in the wild as well as prominent news stories touting China's knowledge and progress.

Gertz reports in his story that the famed researcher and his years of prominent work cannot be found on a government website that is China's version of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.

Gertz interviewed three biosecurity experts for his story in which two said it was likely the virus escaped the lab due to a lack of safety protocols and standard precautions, which can be seen in videos showing the research. A third expert dismissed that theory of a lab accident. 

According to Mosher, it’s not hard to connect the dots to the outbreak of the virus in Wuhan and the well-known experiments taking place in its lab.

“And what were they looking for?” he asks rhetorically. “They were looking for horseshoe bat coronavirus that could directly affect human beings.”

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As I said in a post yesterday, two scientists who worked at that site, said due to poor methods of waste disposal the population was in danger of being contaminated from waste from the lab there doing virus research.Those two scientists, whose names are known, simply disappeared.

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As I said in a post yesterday, two scientists who worked at that site, said due to poor methods of waste disposal the population was in danger of being contaminated from waste from the lab there doing virus research.Those two scientists, whose names are known, simply disappeared.


UVC is also man made.

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Please keep the conspiracy theory garbage in the correct forum.

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Please keep the conspiracy theory garbage in the correct forum.

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UV is not a conspiracy theory, its real. So is this bug no matter where it came from. We're past that part
now. The truth is, what are we going to do about it? Keep talking, or go on the offense?
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I said from day 1 that this was a mil made virus that was designed to kill their enemies, US. I hope that EVERY American company doing business with them STOPS, all American owned businesses in China are brought back home. Walmart has given them the money to build a strong military. Ban ALL trade with china, at least til this is over,. CHARLIE.  >:( >:(
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don't know if it was man made or not. But if China wanted to use it against America why not infect a couple americans clandestinely at an air port about when there getting on an air liner to the US and be done with it. Or for that matter a couple Mexicans or Canadians.  Why would they infect there own country which includes there military and police. they've weakened themselves as much or more then they have us. Also if they were intent on wiping us out why are they still supplying medicine and medical gear to us? Have to agree with justashooter. Conspiracy theory bs spread by wanabe experts looking for attention. Bottom line is the whole world is infected and all the blaming in the world isn't going to drop the body count by even 1!! So why waste time and resources today on when and how. Lets deal with whats important and leave that bs for after its over! Whats the alternative?? Start a nuke war!! Send our infected air craft carrier to attack them!!

That said I do hope we stop as much overseas trade as we can. Ive been fan of made in America all my life. Lets start by banning all those Toyotas, nissans, kias, and every other imported car from ever hitting our shores. Lets let americans build those cars and trucks. We get about a 100 percent of our electronics from china and japan. We can build those right here too. When americans (and some here) have to open there wallet a bit wider at the check out or the car dealership. I chuckle at those screaming about cutting off trade. Half of them drive Toyotas! WALK THE WALK! Same guys that will say we should go attack korea or china with our military but they themselves stayed home with mommy when the viet nam war or the trouble in the sand box started. Bottom line is they want someone else to do the dirty work. to make the sacrifices! Yup stir up crap about china attacking us. Send us to war. Don't worry you wont have to get your hands dirty or risk YOUR Life!

"Walmart has given them money to build a strong military" What a joke. YOU gave them that money every time you bought things from Walmart and on ebay ect. Now crap has hit the fan and Walmart is doing a hell of a lot more for this country they you are by stirring up crap! My guess is most here in the last month have bought something from china. Im guilty myself. Difference is I don't pretend. Im not a wanabe political expert, bible scholar, scientist or medical expert. Sure get sick of the ones on here that think they are though. We elected a president. One I believe is great at running this country and handling this crisis. Me spreading conspiracy's on the internet sure doesn't help him. Matter of fact it just shows that some have doubts about his ability and him being intelligent enough to really know the truth. Im sure the liberals just love you second guessing him and his people. The REAL experts.
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Lets start by banning all those Toyotas, nissans, kias, and every other imported car from ever hitting our shores. Lets let americans build those cars and trucks.

Get yer facts right Lloyd. All those you mention ARE being made rat here in the USA. Just as high a percentage of them are made from American made parts as are you'r favorites also. Loads of them are being build right here in Alabama and from locally sourced parts.


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As one of the commentators questioned last night, whilst speaking to a gov. official, regardless of where this virus came from do you think China is taking note over how the U.S.A. fell apart after something that is in reality a minor item.He gave much of an answer as one reporting to Wash. could give, which was acknowledge that with out saying so.
This is not a created virus, man does not have that capability but the Chinese are studying such things for reasons beyond protecting their population, which is large enough they do not really care, but at the same time, it is also large enough a full on revolt is scary to them.

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I said from day 1 that this was a mil made virus that was designed to kill their enemies, US. I hope that EVERY American company doing business with them STOPS, all American owned businesses in China are brought back home. Walmart has given them the money to build a strong military. Ban ALL trade with china, at least til this is over,. CHARLIE.  >:( >:(


I feel like it is Charlie, I asked the guys down at Sandia Labs what they thought.And they would agree with
you. But that's really not they're area.

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Re: Folks are finally learning this virus was MAN MADE, not from a bad bat.
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2020, 10:46:10 PM »
follow the profits Bill. I say it like this. If that Toyota plant can keep going with NO imports what so ever and none of the profits going oversees and that goes for Gm ford and Chrysler too then let them build them. ALL imported car parts and cars be they for Toyota or the big three should be stopped immediately. ITs time to stop it all and have americans building things for America and the profits from them going into our own economy not making china korea and japan mexico and canada stronger. !
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Lets start by banning all those Toyotas, nissans, kias, and every other imported car from ever hitting our shores. Lets let americans build those cars and trucks.

Get yer facts right Lloyd. All those you mention ARE being made rat here in the USA. Just as high a percentage of them are made from American made parts as are you'r favorites also. Loads of them are being build right here in Alabama and from locally sourced parts.
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Re: Folks are finally learning this virus was MAN MADE, not from a bad bat.
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2020, 02:56:23 AM »
Chrysler isn't an American car company any longer, hasn't been for several years. It's foreign owned and the profit from it ultimately goes overseas no less so than any of the Japan or Korea owned companies.

Toyota and the other brands you love to hate so much are publicly traded companies and I'm sure some folks outside of Japan own stock in them. I'm sure some are still built in Japan and shipped out perhaps even a few to the US. But most sold here are made here. The support industry that provides the parts for them employees more folks here in the US than the factories that assemble them.

The same applies to those old line American companies. They are assembled here in the US, well some of them are at least. Some are assembled in Mexico and Canada instead. Where does the profit go? Well they are publicly traded companies and folks from all over the world own shares.

To the best of my understanding the last Toyota built in Japan and shipped here was the FJ Cruiser. All of their trucks are made here in the US these days and most parts are also made here in the US. Yes no doubt some parts come from other countries same as they do for Ford, GM and Chrysler.


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Re: Folks are finally learning this virus was MAN MADE, not from a bad bat.
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2020, 10:36:53 PM »
read my post bill. I said ALL of the companys are guilty. ALL need to change. Even Harley Davidson buys parts oversees today!!!  poor trade deals and stupid one sided tariffs made it cheaper for all of them to buy imported stuff. Cost americans THOUSANDS if not millions of jobs. All so the rich can get richer. It isn't even just the things that go down the road. Atvs utvs snowmobiles about all are made overseas or by foreign based companys. ALL our electronics (every wonder how many billions of dollars are made by other countrys just selling us cell phones in one year!) , lots of our drugs and about anything electronic in a hospital and half of our oil. You name it and probably more then 50 percent of it is imported. Wasn't like that when you and I were boys. Needs to go back to americans for America not americans for $. The only bright side to this epidemic is its showing us how dependent weve become on those other countrys. If were going to survive as a country this has got to change.
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