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Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« on: February 10, 2020, 03:09:21 AM »

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/lincolns_wisdom_applies_to_gender_identity.html

Lincoln's Wisdom Applies to Gender Identity

By Jay Tucker
 
A Wall Street firm has directed employees, when introducing themselves to each other, to offer up their own gender identity pronouns, all in order to show respect for all whose identity does not align with their sex.With similar policies, private entities and government agencies (including schools) appear unwilling to respect the reality that sex is not "assigned" at birth, but declared before and after birth by a person's 23rd chromosome pair in every cell of the body as either male (XY) or female (XX).  They also appear unwilling to respect truth, transparency, science, and common sense.

Last year, cnbc.com quoted Warren Buffett from his annual shareholder letter:

The same wisdom applies to issues of gender identity. Lincoln's wisdom demonstrates common sense when compared to policies developed out of false notions that men can become women and vice versa, and that addressing or referring to a person of one sex with names and pronouns associated with persons of the opposite sex will increase the respect accorded to that person. Coercion, whether by government or by a corporation, will create not respect, but rather resentment.Can anyone seriously believe that a relationship conceived by compulsion and born in deception will engender respect? Only truth deserves dignity and respect.  And it is only in an environment of truth and transparency that compassion, effective care for those suffering from dysphoria, and appropriate policies will ensue.

Such policies appear to have been adopted without consideration or appreciation of the material adverse medical, social, and economic risks and consequences attending transition and of the adverse impact of such policies on the efficient functioning of society.In addition to any applicable constitutional issues (such as compelled speech, privacy, free exercise of religion, and rights of parents to control the education and upbringing of their children), such policies exhibit some or all of the following major deficiencies.:

1. They ecourage employees to act contrary to ethics policies requiring honesty and integrity.



2. They appear to be a capitulation to campaigns to intentionally eliminate the essential differences distinguishing males from females and to do what Lincoln condemned: alter and hijack the definitions of the words sex and male and female and their derivative names and pronouns.

3. They are unwise when they encourage and compel others (employees) to become complicit in misrepresentation, deceit, and other actions that may be unethical and unlawful.

4. They lead to confusion as to the intended meaning of names and pronouns and inferences which might be drawn from them.  Does they refer to a single person or to a group of persons?  Does he refer to a male or to a female who believes she is or desires to be a male?

5. They ignore the resulting societal disruption when all who were formerly comfortable relying on names and pronouns will be compelled to engage in their own costly, time-consuming, and difficult investigations and inquiries in order to verify a person's true nature.

6. They ignore current estimates that around "a quarter (22–28%) of transgender women [i.e., men calling themselves women] are living with HIV, and more than half (an estimated 56%) of black/African American transgender women [sic] are living with HIV."  Policies affirming "transition" by black African-American males are, in effect, encouraging behaviors which make it more likely than not that they will be infected with HIV.  Such policies are contrary to public policy and insulting to public and private efforts to reduce the spread of HIV.

7. They ignore (a) that affirmation of gender dysphoria is only one of a number of controversial alternative treatments for gender dysphoria and typically commences with social transition (use of opposite-sex names and pronouns, cross-dressing, and use of opposite-sex facilities) and (b) that diagnosis and selection of recommended treatments is complex and is reserved for licensed mental health professionals.  Because there "is no evidence for the political case that transsexuals were born that way" and because there are many suggested causes and contributors to gender dysphoria (including patient and family psychopathology, media influence, peer pressure, and social contagion), it is inappropriate (and likely unethical and perhaps unlawful) for government, an employer, or educational institution to institute a "one-size-fits-all" affirmation policy, thus usurping the prerogatives of licensed medical professionals.

8.Ignore the fact that medical treatments (including social transition such as use of opposite-sex names and pronouns) for gender dysphoria require the securing of valid "informed consent" after detailed disclosure of all material information and explanations regarding treatment alternatives, and after all adverse medical, economic, and social risks and consequences of proceeding with the treatment, are fully comprehended.If valid informed consent is not secured, claims for failure of informed consent, malpractice, and battery may be justified.

9.They ignore the warning in the American Psychological Association's APA Handbook on Sexuality and Psychology as to children:


Premature labeling of gender identity should be avoided. Early social transition (i.e., change of gender role, such as registering a birth-assigned boy in school as a girl) should be approached with caution to avoid foreclosing this stage of (trans)gender identity development.

The Handbook explains that if there is early social transition, "the stress associated with possible reversal of this decision has been shown to be substantial[.]"

10. They ignore the fact that many who take on opposite-sex names and pronouns will ultimately come to regret the decision.  Even "sex change" surgeons express doubt about transgenderism.  Dr. Miroslav Djordjevie, world premier genital reconstruction surgeon, is realizing that "sex reassignment" surgery is not making patients happy  and that the surgery they thought would bring them the satisfaction they were looking for only plunged them into deeper despair, with "crippling levels of depression" and intense suicidal thoughts.  Dr. Djordjevie also says he's overwhelmed by the numbers who've approached him about reversing their procedure.

11.They disregard the violence that can and does occur, typically when males take on opposite-sex names and pronouns and then encourage intimacy with a male without disclosure of the impersonation. Such occurs so often that some courts have accepted a so-called panic defense to exonerate the deceived party.

12.They implement indoctrination of vulnerable children with propositions that do not conform to reality.

13.They compel employees to violate deeply held religious beliefs.(Lying is proscribed by Jewish and Christian doctrine.)

There appears to be no compelling justification for government or private entities to adopt policies attended by the described flaws and deficiencies and that mandate usage of opposite-sex names and pronouns based on self-identification, a self-identification which is solely in the mind and can change from day to day.Commitments to honesty and integrity are discarded so that a tiny number of employees or students can dissemble, resulting in the discomfort (whether or not verbalized) of employees and others who value honesty and transparency, to confusion and disruption in public and private discourse, and to an increase in potential adverse risks and consequences for those choosing to commence or continue with "transition."

Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2020, 04:33:56 AM »
Call me old fashioned and I admit to never having sought out such info but what the heck did any of that have to do with Lincoln and what do you guys know of Lincoln that I never learned?


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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2020, 05:02:11 AM »
Call me old fashioned and I admit to never having sought out such info but what the heck did any of that have to do with Lincoln and what do you guys know of Lincoln that I never learned?

BILL. I have no idea what Lincoln had to do with, but that was the story title.
I can't imagine anybody hiring somebody that wasn't smart enough to know whether he was a man or a woman. My generation had no problem telling the difference. CHARLIE.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2020, 05:14:41 AM »
Well, Lincoln habitually slept with a certain Capitan during his presidency, which that alone should put in question his wisdom.
Joshua Speed was Lincoln's sleeping partner for over 4 years, but when 1st Lady Mary was out of town, Capitan David Derrickson was his bed partner at the white house.
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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2020, 05:55:25 AM »

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   I wondered what Lincoln had to do with the OP...even though his name was apparently mentioned by Bloomberg.





  So far as the stories of Lincoln sleeping with other men, that was another time, and such was not a reason for suspicion.  Even hotels and inns of that day often rented single bed accomodations to travelling duos of men..or women.  Nothing unusual for the time, since most here in America were Christians..and probably homosexualism was rare enough, to consider such activity unlikely.


  I'm not an apologist for Lincoln..he has his warts too.  ...But I have to admit, my Lincoln welder has served me well for over 35 years ! ;) ;D

  I have found no information on a "certain captain", but would welcome some reputable link.


  There is another way of looking at it..  The presidential election of 1860 was a very acrimonious one..plenty of hate to go around.  To add to the tension, it was a 4-way race.  1) A Lincoln -R   ( 2)  John Breckenridge- D   (3) Stephen Douglas-D   John Bell- CU


   Much complaining and some lying about each other...  A possible source of slander, sore losers, like Hillary's minions today..(they wouldn't lie, would they? )  ;)   ;D


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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2020, 06:13:16 AM »
Much complaining and some lying about each other...  A possible source of slander, sore losers, like Hillary's minions today..(they wouldn't lie, would they? )  ;)   ;D

The truth about Hillary is damning enough, don,'t need to lie. CHARLIE.  >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2020, 06:51:42 AM »
Much complaining and some lying about each other...  A possible source of slander, sore losers, like Hillary's minions today..(they wouldn't lie, would they? )  ;)   ;D

The truth about Hillary is damning enough, don,'t need to lie. CHARLIE.  >:(



  You're totally correct there, Charlie !


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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2020, 11:25:18 AM »
I have zero use for or respect for Lincoln. His sexual proclivities are none of my concern. I have certainly never searched the internet to see if there is any sexual innuendo on him. I have no plans to do so. However, I have never in all my days to this time other than the current threads here at at the other GBO site ever heard any of this talk of him sleeping with other men.

I admit tho I've never had an interest in who he slept with or what other than sleep might have gone on. Still I went to school for 12 years and got a college degree and never heard any talk of such in all of my years on earth before these two current threads.


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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2020, 01:53:00 PM »
I guess the democrats made lewd accusations against him, per the picture.

Let's see, Lincoln was republican, southerners were democrat.  Now southerners are republican and most democrats are up north.

Did the north and south poles reverse while I wasn't looking?? :)
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2020, 03:15:32 AM »
I, too, have never heard of any such thing, out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Might be someone with latent tendencies looking for justification who spread that particular piece of dreck.

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2020, 04:08:54 AM »
Never heard anything about Lincoln being a pervert before and don't believe it, likely lies to discredit him. Look at buttgieg, an admitted  pervert, often seen with his male wife. DEMS LOVE HIM because they have no morals or family values. If these evildems know what he and his WIFE do behind closed doors, they have no morals or family values either. CHARLIE.  :o
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 04:28:51 AM »
I am another that has never heard any of this about Lincoln. I don't really care either as he's long dead and buried. What he did to the nation is well known and that is enough for me.

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Re: Lincolns wisdom and gender identity.
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2020, 09:58:29 AM »

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  Well, I don't believe there was a problem such as that .  His mother Nancy Hanks Lincoln, schooled him from the Bible, his friends denied such gossip, and he had female interests before marrying Mary Todd..(e.g. Ann Rutledge).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Rutledge

 This gossip has primarily raised it's ugly head in recent years, because the homosexual movement hopes to gain some acceptance by tearing down, those who are greater than they !


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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 12:02:56 PM »
  It rings true with me that it would be something the adversary is doing, as IG shares.
 

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2020, 09:14:47 AM »

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 I am inclined to believe the Dems are strongest in cities and high illegals influx areas, along with some of the reservations.


  This is more easily seen when the nation is broken down by counties !


 
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