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Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« on: December 06, 2019, 02:44:30 PM »


https://www.foxnews.com/us/robbers-florida-ups-truck-hijack-identified


Robbers killed in Florida UPS truck hijacking, shootout with police are identified


By Robert Gearty | Fox News

Four dead after police chase with stolen UPS truck ends with gunfire in Florida

An armed robbery and hijacking of a UPS truck leads to a wild police chase that ends in a shootout in Coral Gables, Florida.

The two men responsible for a south Florida jewelry heist-turned-hostage situation and eventual police shootout previously served time for robbery, according to a report.

A UPS driver and an innocent bystander were also fatally shot during the gun battle in Miramar, which was seen on local TV.


The FBI identified the robbers as Lamar Alexander and Ronnie Hill, both 41, WPLG-TV reported.

Mugshots for Lamar Alexander, 41, and Ronnie Hill, 41. (Florida Department of Correction)

"He just made bad decisions in life and it cost him his," Corey Smith said of Alexander, who was his brother, according to the station.



KIDNAPPED UPS DRIVER, BYSTANDER AND JEWELRY STORE HEIST SUSPECTS DEAD AFTER FLORIDA HIGHWAY RUSH-HOUR SHOOTOUT

Alexander was a felon with a lengthy rap sheet, including armed robbery, according to the station.

Florida Department of Corrections records show Alexander was convicted of robbery with a deadly weapon in Lee County in 2009, the station reported. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison and released in 2017.

Hill was also released from prison in 2017, WPLG reported. He had a series of convictions for burglary and robbery.

The shootout took place after Alexander and Hill robbed a Coral Gables jewelry store and then hijacked a UPS truck during the getaway.

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The UPS driver who was killed had been identified as Frank Ordonez, a 27-year-old man with two young daughters, according to reports.

Raw video: Massive police chase concludes as dozens of officers surround UPS truck stolen by robbery suspects
Video

It was not immediately clear who fired the shots that killed Ordonez or the bystander.

News helicopters were following the chase and at least one showed the conclusion live, with one person falling out of the vehicle’s passenger side after several shots were fired.

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“It’s very early in the investigative process,” FBI Special Agent in Charge George Piro said Thursday night. “There are a lot of questions that are still unanswered.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

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Re: Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2019, 07:19:28 PM »
So what about the two innocent people that the cops killed in that whole mess?  That was one of the absolute worst calls I have seen so far by the police. Did no one ever teach them about being aware of your backstop when shooting? I hope every cop that fired his gun looses his job and ends up in jail. Though I know that will not happen and the tax payers will end up footing the bill for the recklessness of the cops.




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Re: Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2019, 03:34:24 AM »
So what about the two innocent people that the cops killed in that whole mess?  That was one of the absolute worst calls I have seen so far by the police. Did no one ever teach them about being aware of your backstop when shooting? I hope every cop that fired his gun looses his job and ends up in jail. Though I know that will not happen and the tax payers will end up footing the bill for the recklessness of the cops.




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Maybe they just wrote it off as collateral damage? The victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yeah, tell that to they're family's who are probably going to sue the crap out of the PD. 

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Re: Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2019, 06:08:14 AM »
Sounds to me like we don’t have many facts yet but we’re already making judgement calls and ready to sue. Could be the robbers fired the fatal shots that killed the bystanders.
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Re: Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2019, 08:11:56 AM »
Sounds to me like we don’t have many facts yet but we’re already making judgement calls and ready to sue. Could be the robbers fired the fatal shots that killed the bystanders.


It would appear that you did not see the video footage of it. The police fired over 200 rounds into the ups truck, killing both of the robbers. The ups driver can be seen trying to climb out of the truck with one of the robbers right behind him, who had thrown his gun out onto the ground and had his hands out in front of him giving up. The police continued to fill the truck full of lead from the 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock positions. The by-stander that was killed was over 300 ft away in front of the ups truck. The police used civilian vehicles as cover and if you look close at the video and the still pictures that have been released it is clear the police did not give a damn about any innocent people in that intersection.


Folks need to wake up and understand that the police have absolutely no obligation to protect you and will put civilian lives in danger needlessly.  Oh did I mention that the police had blocked that intersection with the INTENT of using the civilian traffic to stop the truck. Therefore intentionally putting everyone at that intersection in danger...


They had two birds in the air, they could have backed off and let the truck get away from civilians and then moved in for the kill, but nope they did it in the middle of rush hour on a crowded street, and this is not the first time either. Defend them if you like, but when someone you care about is killed needlessly by police we will see if your view of them changes.




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Re: Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2019, 08:24:32 AM »
So what about the two innocent people that the cops killed in that whole mess?  That was one of the absolute worst calls I have seen so far by the police. Did no one ever teach them about being aware of your backstop when shooting? I hope every cop that fired his gun looses his job and ends up in jail. Though I know that will not happen and the tax payers will end up footing the bill for the recklessness of the cops.




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Maybe they just wrote it off as collateral damage? The victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yeah, tell that to they're family's who are probably going to sue the crap out of the PD.




The UPS drivers family is already preparing to sue. But when you have "Qualified Immunity" who cares, right?


The problem with that is the police will not have to pay up, the tax payers will.  I wish folks would understand the government and all of it's branches get their money from "We The People". They do not create or sell any products, taxes, fines and fees are the only revenue stream they have, where does that come from, again "We The People".


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Re: Punks killed by cops in shootout in FLA ups truck hijacking.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2019, 12:58:54 AM »
I’m not defending them Matt, and no I haven’t seen the video. I just want more info than I’ve heard on the news before I make a judgement call. And videos can be doctored as you know. I’m just saying let’s give this a little investigation time.
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