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You fill in the blank.
 
Mine is that of the 56 million babies murdered since roe V wade, that maybe one of them would have cured cancer, saved the world from annihilation, or led this country to prosperity without anyone suffering. God does not make mistakes, every birth is planned, by Him.
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OLDSHOOTER. YES, I've thought about it a  lot, the world might have been cancer free today.  A woman testified in Church about the baby she had murdered many years before. She said she'd never know if she'd of had a boy or girl, what it's name would have been, whether she may have had any grandchildren.
 
Out of 56 MILLION murdered I'd say the chances of several being Drs, nurses, lawyers, judges, policemen, firemen, scientists, teachers, even Pastors. They may have saved lives, even saved souls, but we'll never know, will we??
 
What liberal democrats call free choice always means that a child dies. Baby butchers, and their helpers, will rue the day that they killed their first baby, if they don't repent. I should pity them on judgement day, but I don't, they will get what they deserve. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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 Did you ever stop to think …how it is that our planet earth is placed in our solar system in exactly the right place in the Milky Way galaxy? We are in an area not to close or to far from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Scientists call this area the habitual zone.
We are also just the right distance from our star the sun, which is just the right size, emitting just the right amount of energy, at the right time for life to survive on earth. Any closer to the sun and we would fry, any further away and we would freeze. Our moon is unique in the sense that it is unusually large in relation to the earth.
Our moon is the primary reason we have ocean tides, and the earth remains in perfect balanced spin. Without the moon in its current orbit or position, the earth would be wobbling about in space.
Without the earth being tilted exactly 23.4 degrees on its axis, we would not enjoy four seasons and moderate temperatures. The spin of earth is also exactly just the right speed to sustain life. Any slower and the side facing the sun would cook, and the side away would be a frozen.
The earth also has a custom made atmosphere, and magnetic field that are still not fully understood by scientists. At the center of the earths core is a molten iron ball which gives earth its magnetic shield that reaches into space. It protects us from the suns rays, and cosmic radiation. With out the magnetic field we would be extinguished like a candle. Also with out Jupiter scientists predict we would have 10,000 times more strikes from asteroids and comets.
Our atmosphere protects us from debris from meteorites, and asteroids. Our atmosphere also has just the right amount of oxygen. It also protects life by filtering out harmful uv radiation.     
Did you ever stop to think of the chances that earth could have ended up in just the right place in the universe to support life, just by chance? Or that us humans got here just by chance. As hostile to life as the universe is. Here we are living on this planet that is like a paradise for humans, and many other life forms.  I think its pretty absurd to think it all happened, just by chance.     
 
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Great posts guys!
 
DDZ it is amazing isn't it! Everything just right to sustain our lives and human procreation. Like nowhere else in the universe that we have seen, I'm figuring Divine intervention.
 
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Yeah, but have you ever stopped to think how much better it would all be without liberals, communists, Dumycrats and gun-grabbers?
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Well there ya are! A good reason to go to Heaven!  ;)
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Yeah, but have you ever stopped to think how much better it would all be without liberals, communists, Dumycrats and gun-grabbers?

This group probably ascended from Cain's side of the family tree.  ;)
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i wish  obumers  mam had an abortion
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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  To quote Hillary: What difference at this point, does it make ?!!!
 
   IN TRUTH,  IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE...and I have long wondered about the same question..  How many Dr Salks, Thomas Edisons, Billy Grahams, Dr G. W. Carvers, Florence Nightengales, or James Madisons.. have been killed?
 
  However, for any woman suffering from having made this mistake, let me hasten to remind you... Jesus is love,, He does love you; He will forgive you and take you into His arms and heart..  Just turn to Him..
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i wish  obumers  mam had an abortion

You know she was a card carrying leftist, I'm surprised he didn't get flushed. I'd be willing to bet that option was discussed. Very possibly !
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   IN TRUTH,  IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE...and I have long wondered about the same question..  How many Dr Salks, Thomas Edisons, Billy Grahams, Dr G. W. Carvers, Florence Nightengales, or James Madisons.. have been killed?


Let's not forget to add to that list John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Adolf Hitler, Gary Ridgway, etc.  All things are for a reason.  Not just the things we choose.

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I think I know what you mean there, but not sure! Can you enlighten me?
 
I'd say even those guys deserved a chance at life. I really think their environments made them who they were, but if not they as babies deserved to breathe. If we could predetermine a serial killer. It would be hard for me to kill that baby without trying to make a difference in them.
 
How many of US here today might not be here if Roe v Wade was the law in the 40's and 50's. I think, I would be, but who knows. 
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The point is, nothing is one sided.  Were the people I named made by their environment or were they born with an inclination to do harm?  I don't know and even the so-called experts have no idea.  Abortion doesn't just take away the chance of a life to do good, since there is an equal chance that same life may be set on doing harm.  No matter whether life is lost from abortion, a plane crash or any other life ending event, people both good and bad are lost. 

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DDZ. Great post Sir. My goodness, you make it sound like all those things were well thought out. I wonder who coulda done that?? Liberals will never credit or accept God in all his glory. Hussein is Gods punishment on a backslid nation. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
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What an ironic name "Old Syco" for that post!
 
 I thought that was where you were going with that but these days who can be sure. You make a good point, OLD SYCO!  ;)
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Ever stop and think why you never see a head line that says "psychic wins lottery"? 

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I allways wonder why they have an "800"number to give you your fortune, they see my future, they should know my number and call me!  ::)
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The evolutionists tell us we evolved from monkeys and apes. Wonder if they ever stopped to think why there are still monkeys and apes.
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The evolutionists tell us we evolved from monkeys and apes. Wonder if they ever stopped to think why there are still monkeys and apes.


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when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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 Ever stop and think what it takes to make up one so called simple living cell? The hypothetical simple cell would need a vast number of  internal parts. At least 239 protein molecules, each containing 445 amino acids, all of which are made up of 10 to 20 atoms.
Of the hundreds of different amino acids, only 20 are used in proteins, and they cannot simply float around randomly. All 445 of them must be lined up single file, in perfect sequential order, for the protein to function. For a single cell to spring to life, 445 amino acids would have to accidentally line up perfectly, not once, but 239 times to form 239 proteins to spontaneously become a living cell. The so called simple cell contain as much data as all the individual letters in the worlds largest library. That’s about a trillion bits of information.
Even though the odds of all this occurring accidently is utterly impossible. Darwin pointed out that no supernatural designer was needed, since natural selection could account for any known from of life.
Lets just assume a designer was not needed. Applying the laws of probability to the spontaneous generation of a single living cell through this illustration.
Suppose you number ten pennies from 1 to 10 and place all ten of them in your pocket. When you reach into your pocket and randomly select a penny, the odds of picking a specific penny are 1 in 10. But the odds of pulling the pennies out in sequential order, replacing each penny after it is selected, are 1 in 10 billion. That means you could try to randomly select 10 pennies in proper sequence 10 billion times before getting it right. Compare that to the odds of the simple cell getting organized by itself, and the impossibility of the task becomes pretty obvious.
A Swiss scientist Charles Guye calculated the possibility of even on protein(not 239) with the average amino-acid chain getting lined up in the proper sequence as 1 in 10321   
Just an idea of what an outrageous number that is, the total number of fundamental particles in the entire universe is 10134 that means there aren’t enough fundamental particle in the universe to illustrate the odds of even a single protein molecule coming together. Dr. Guye also claimed that the time required to run the optional combinations would be 10234   billion years. Remember we are only talking about one protein, not the required 239. If you take the same principles of probability and apply them to a single cell, the odds become 1 in 10137,915.28 
Its no wonder biologist Edwin Conkin said, “The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop”. Sir Fred Hoyle of Cambridge university said, “The chance that higher life forms might have emerged in this way is comparable with the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junk yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein”. So its pretty clear we just didn’t happen by chance. Yet there is the religion that expects us to believe that life sprang from a mud puddle, with just the right chemicals mixed in.
 
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Darwin pointed out that no supernatural designer was needed, since natural selection could account for any known from of life.


 
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Charles Darwin was a tragically mistaken man who drifted from a childlike trust in One who helped him run to school on time into an abyss of hopelessness and agnosticism. While the spiritual journey of a Christian is a journey out of darkness into Christ's marvelous light, that of Charles Darwin was a slippery slide out of Gospel light (although not saving spiritual sight) into the sheer "blackness of darkness for ever."

Natural selection exists. for example. The largest strongest wolf procreates to make the wolf  larger and stronger. But they come from the same thing we know as Dogs. Not monkys or guppies!
 
The Bible has never changed. Science books change everytime  a new scientist comes up with a theory. ie Darwins theory of evolution. Notice it isnt taught as theory anymore. but as fact!  ::)
 
It was said he recanted before death. (i'm not sure) If he did, it is profound, he either was regretful and wanted to repent or he was hedging his bets, either way, he was fearfull of the God he disclaimed.
 
 
Excellent post DDZ!
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   IN TRUTH,  IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE...and I have long wondered about the same question..  How many Dr Salks, Thomas Edisons, Billy Grahams, Dr G. W. Carvers, Florence Nightengales, or James Madisons.. have been killed?


Let's not forget to add to that list John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Adolf Hitler, Gary Ridgway, etc.  All things are for a reason.  Not just the things we choose.
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  ..But the abortionist kills indiscriminately..he/she cannot know which one he/she is wiping out.  That's why those decisions are best when left to God..the only one who does know.
  I do find it interesting when "Liberal Logic" is applied.. Lefties generally don't want those evil monsters like John Wayne Gacey, Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy executed.. 
...But they clamor, campaign and march in demonstrations; demanding that the executions continue for those most innocent among us.
 
  Just more Liberal Logic......
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What kind of logic is it when in all of these discussions on abortion only the possible loss of those who would do good are mentioned?  Be it abortion, a plane crash or any other man made disaster, the end result is the same.  Members of both factions are lost equally.  To only show concern for one side of the equation while not recognizing the other is twisted logic in itself, is it not?

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What kind of logic is it when in all of these discussions on abortion only the possible loss of those who would do good are mentioned?  Be it abortion, a plane crash or any other man made disaster, the end result is the same.  Members of both factions are lost equally.  To only show concern for one side of the equation while not recognizing the other is twisted logic in itself, is it not?

 
OLD SYCO. No, it's not. Those killed in a plane crash, car accident, or many other ways at least had a chance to have a life. They enjoyed trials and trbulations, maybe got married, had kids, etc. A murdered baby has had all that cancelled before it had a chance to live. POWDERMAN.  :( :(
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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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"Man murders hundreds of puppies with scissors..."    The public outcry would be deafening.
"Man murders hundreds of babies with scissors..."     The public silence is deafening.

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Remember how much some of the animal rightsers hated that football player who was fighting dogs.  "Dr" Glover was snipping spines on babies at the same time..and authorities had been getting reports of the slaughterhouse...but they didn't want to disappoint the "mothers" who patronized that butcher shop.
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"Man murders hundreds of puppies with scissors..."    The public outcry would be deafening.
"Man murders hundreds of babies with scissors..."     The public silence is deafening.

 
Exactly! In the months after sandy hook(20 kids and 6 adults) and all the guncontrol, mania thousands of babies were murdered during that time and no one wept!
 
Another crazy thing If you kill a pregnant woman negligently, they will try you for  two murders. What if she was on the way to the abortion clinic.  :-\
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I will add just one thought to this thread.
First I am not for abortion as the means to end a bad one nighter from those that should know better but what about the women who are really raped, be it from a stranger or a known person.
Maybe even incest!
Should they me made to go through the trauma of giving birth to a child that they may end up hating?
I know that most women would love it no matter what but just think about it a little longer.
If you were a woman and you were truly raped against your will by who knows what kind or color of rapest, would you still want something to remind you of it everyday for the rest of your life?
There has to be exceptions to every law and under these circumstances I think it should be allowed.
Just the way I feel about it.
 
 
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Exactly! In the months after sandy hook(20 kids and 6 adults) and all the guncontrol, mania thousands of babies were murdered during that time and no one wept!
 
Another crazy thing If you kill a pregnant woman negligently, they will try you for  two murders. What if she was on the way to the abortion clinic.  :-\

 
A good number of you post and pontificate on the nasty Muslims that kill Infidels,  each other,beat women and throw rocks at people that keep some of them  in a gulag. Compared to the above they are gentle and respect life. ::)
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Longtom:
 
I agree with your point. We do have the "Morning after pill" available and I do make a distinction under those circumstances as this is not an "oopsie" situation and I would also add to those exceptions the  women whose life would be in grave danger if this pregnancy was to continue.
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