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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/kermit-gosnell-philly-abortion-clinic-workers-options-18943467
 
Philly Abortion Clinic Workers Saw Few Options     DA: Philadelphia Doctor Accused of Killing Babies Auto Start: On | Off          By MARYCLAIRE DALE Associated Press  PHILADELPHIA April 12, 2013 (AP) 
 
They say they were just doing what the boss trained them to do.
But eight former employees of a run-down West Philadelphia abortion clinic now face prison time for the work they did for Dr. Kermit Gosnell. Three have pleaded guilty to third-degree murder.
 
And Gosnell, 72, is on trial in the deaths of a patient and seven babies allegedly born alive.
In testimony at the capital murder trial this past month, an unlicensed doctor and untrained aides described long, chaotic days at the clinic. They said they performed grueling, often gruesome work for little more than minimum wage, paid by Gosnell under the table.
But for most, it was the best job they could find.
 
Unlicensed doctor Stephen Massof, 50, of Pittsburgh, said he could not get a U.S. medical residency after finishing medical school in Grenada and went to work for Gosnell as a "backup plan" after six years running a bar. He admitted killing two babies by snipping their necks, as he said Gosnell taught him to do.
Eileen O'Neill, 56, had worked as a doctor in Louisiana but relinquished her medical license in 2000 to deal with "post-traumatic stress syndrome," according to her 2011 grand jury testimony. She is the only employee on trial with Gosnell, fighting false billing and racketeering charges.
      Yong Kim/Philadelphia Daily News/AP Photo Dr. Kermit Gosnell is seen during an... View Full Size    Yong Kim/Philadelphia Daily News/AP Photo Dr. Kermit Gosnell is seen during an interview with the Philadelphia Daily News at his attorney's office in Philadelphia, March 8, 2010.       Will Reddit Murder 'Confession Bear' Lead to Arrest? Watch Video        Man Strangled by Shirt Caught in Escalator Watch Video        Alaska Fort Last Defense Against North Korea Nukes Watch Video    According to one colleague, O'Neill was increasingly upset at the line of people who came to Gosnell's adjacent medical clinic for painkillers. And she was angry that he wasn't helping her regain her license.
"She said: 'All I do is break my neck for him all the time, and he never does anything for me. I'm going to have to do something about it,'" front desk worker Tina Baldwin testified this week, recalling a conversation with O'Neill.
 
However, O'Neill, like many others, stayed on at the clinic until a February 2010 drug raid, which was spawned by Gosnell's high-volume distribution of OxyContin and other painkillers.
Gosnell, once a gifted student in his working-class black neighborhood, had put his medical school education to work as a 1970s-era champion of drug treatment and legal abortions. But 30 years later, conditions inside his bustling clinic and his old neighborhood had deteriorated, according to trial testimony.
 
Defense lawyer Jack McMahon argues that no babies were born alive, and unforeseen complications caused the overdose death of the woman who died.
"Just because the place was less than state-of-the-art doesn't make him a murderer," McMahon said in opening statements last month.
 
Baldwin, like colleague Latosha Lewis, had trained to be a medical assistant at a for-profit vocational school before going to work for Gosnell in 2002. She handed out drugs at the front desk to induce labor, while Lewis helped perform ultrasounds, administer medications and deliver babies. Lewis worked from 10 a.m. until well after midnight, making $7 to $10 an hour.
 
"Gosnell recklessly cut corners, allowed patients to choose their medication based on ability to pay, and provided abysmal care — all to maximize his profit," prosecutors wrote in the 2011 grand jury report. "He was not serving his community. Gosnell ran a criminal enterprise, motivated by greed."
Baldwin now faces at least a year in prison, and perhaps much longer, after pleading guilty to federal drug charges and state charges that include corruption of a minor.
 
 
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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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"Not my fault, just doing what I was told" - I believe the Nazis who ran the death camps already used this argument!
 
Same type of people as far as I'm concerned.

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SPRUCE. True. They are no less guilty than the butcher himself. Seems to me that the best option would have been to not hire out to kill babies. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Fellow butcher with over 40,000 kills testifies against gosnell.
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 11:21:11 AM »
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/pa-abortion-docs-murder-trial-enters-5th-week-18954990
 
Pa. Doc Testifies Against Fellow Abortion Provider        By MARYCLAIRE DALE Associated Press  PHILADELPHIA April 15, 2013 (AP) 
 
A Philadelphia doctor testified Monday against a fellow abortion provider charged with killing a patient and seven babies.
Dr. Charles Benjamin is one of about four abortion providers left in Philadelphia in the wake of Dr. Kermit Gosnell's arrest two years ago.
Benjamin, by his own count, has performed 40,000 abortions over a 30-year career. He doesn't do them after 21 weeks, or three weeks shy of the 24-week limit in Pennsylvania, he said.
 
Gosnell is accused of performing illegal, late-term abortions and running a dangerously outdated clinic staffed by untrained workers. Benjamin said that he has registered nurses on staff to monitor patients, and that only he or a nurse anesthetist give anesthesia, unlike Gosnell's clinic, where workers hired to clean instruments or handle paperwork have testified that Gosnell trained them to administer potent intravenous drugs.
Benjamin also explained that he performs abortions after 17 weeks gestation in a hospital — in contrast to Gosnell, who performed about all of his approximately 1,000 abortions a year at clinics in West Philadelphia and Delaware.
   Abortion Clinic Deaths.JPEG   On cross-examination, Benjamin acknowledged that his practice once had an abortion patient die of sepsis, although he said the woman was his partner's patient.
He also conceded that first-trimester patients have the choice to be lightly sedated or only given local anesthesia. Defense lawyer Jack McMahon was trying to counter attacks by prosecutors that Gosnell let patients pick their anesthesia based on how much they could pay.
 
The trial is now in its fifth week, and could last another month.
An influx of reporters attended the trial Monday, spurred by criticism that some broadcasters were not covering the trial. A gag order prevents lawyers from speaking outside and no cameras are allowed inside the courtroom.
Common Pleas Judge Jeffrey Minehart reminded jurors not to read or view anything about the case.
 
The second witness Monday was Philadelphia Medical Examiner Sam Gulino, who described his bafflement when police in 2010 turned over bags seized in freezers at Gosnell's clinic that contained 47 sets of fetal remains, along with medical waste and other debris.
"It was really an unprecedented situation," said Gulino, who talked to colleagues and searched medical literature. "There was no guidance for how to proceed."
He decided to thaw the fetal remains gradually, to avoid the deterioration that comes with rapid thawing.
 
Former workers have testified that Gosnell had the aborted fetuses in the freezer because of a billing dispute with his medical waste disposal company, which had stopped coming.
Gulino classified the remains by gestational age, concluding that 17 were aborted in the first trimester and 26 in the second trimester. He believed that one or two were possibly viable, a finding he was required to note under state law.
Gulino's testimony was expected to continue Monday afternoon.
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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm