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Offline Peshtigo71

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Flobert rifle question.
« on: March 22, 2013, 03:29:58 PM »
    I'm sure that this question has been posted before but I am unable to use the search  feature here and was unable to come up with anything definitive when I queried the Google search.  I have a Flobert rifle with the Warnant type of action.  A .22 Long Rifle fits in the chamber when inserted and the rifling is completely eroded if there ever was any.  Would it be a worthwhile endeavor to have the barrel relined with a .22 or a .17 caliber liner? :)      Can this gun possibly withstand the pressures of one of these cartridges or is there anything that can be done to make it a shooter again?  Thanks in advance for your response.   Peshtigo
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 05:21:43 PM »
They are not noted for being a strong action.  I'd hang it on the wall and enjoy looking at it. 
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 05:23:24 PM »
These rifles were normally chambered for BB or CB cap..a round with a case shorter than the current 22 short with a lighter than normal bullet that used no powder only the priming compound for propulsion. Most were made as smooth bores and those I've looked at had no chamber definition.. The action is most certainly NOT safe with any modern cartridge for normal use. The original intended use was for informal target use indoors, they were classed as 'parlor rifles' and while they may fire modern 22 rimfirew rounds use of such ammo would quickly loosen the actions, inducing dangerous headspace.. There is a CB cap made by CCI which is a 22 short case with no powder. I am uncertain as to the safety of this round but much prefer to err in the side of safety..This a clasic definition oof a wall hanger...
 
 
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 04:37:55 AM »
WOW !!
I haven't heard that name for well over 60 years. As a kid, and I do mean kid I had access to a little one shot pistol that fired the 6mm version if I recall. Floberts came in 6 and 9mm. Even as a kid I could buy the blanks for it in Germany !! Yep, very low pressure case, and no powder. It did make a nice bang though well more satisfying than a paper cap pistol.
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2013, 10:00:07 PM »
I bought one rechambered to .22 Short and it's wickedly accurate.  I gave it to my daughter for her first rifle. If you do fix it, you can't go wrong with .22 short other than ammo availability...

BTW, are there any makers marks on the barrel or action?

Tony
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 08:30:58 AM »
    Tony, the gun has Belgium across the top of the chamber, there is a crown over a K, an E over an LG, a series of dots like this- : : : : . , an  AL and a series of 9 figures which I really can't make out.  SAAMI lists the .22 short with a chamber pressure of 21,000 and the long rifle at 24,000.  What do the rest of the guys say about this.  Is this  feasible?  Thanks for the input you guys.   ED
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2013, 09:06:49 PM »
I don't know for sure.  The one I had converted was German made.   The Belgians are also noted for quality guns.  If it were mine, I wouldn't hesitate.  If it's long enough I'd go long rifle and if it's not, .22 short.  Many of these used the same action for long rifle and .22 BB Cap (6mm Flobert.)

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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 03:56:13 PM »
There are at least two different designs. One is like a trapdoor springfield in design & I wouldn't be afraid to use it.  The other, as I remember, just used the hammer to block the chamber and only the strength of the spring protects you.  I'd be afraid of that one. Both are called Floberts.
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Re: Flobert rifle question.
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2013, 05:42:53 AM »
Stevens made a  black powder .22 RF that was like that with only the hammer closing the chamber.  I've only seen one and I wouldn't shoot it.

The one we have is a bolt action and the action is easily long enough for .22 long rifle.  I suspect this rifle was made in all the .22 rimfire rounds of the time...

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