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Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« on: March 03, 2013, 04:08:04 AM »
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Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses' pay. | Associated Press
  Posted on March 3, 2013 at 8:01 AM
Updated today at 10:01 AM       BERLIN (AP) — Swiss voters voiced their anger at perceived corporate excesses Sunday by approving measures to boost shareholders' say on executive pay.
Some 68 percent of voters backed the "Rip-Off Initiative," with 32 against, according to projections by Swiss public television station SRF.
 
The outcome of the referendum was considered a foregone conclusion after opinion polls in recent months showed strong public support for the initiative. News that the outgoing board chairman of Swiss drug maker Novartis AG, Daniel Vasella, was due to receive a leaving package worth 72 million Swiss francs ($77 million) fired up public sentiment against "fat cat" bosses.
Swiss lawmakers will now have to draft a law giving shareholders the right to hold a binding vote on all compensation for company executives and directors. The law will also ban "golden hellos" and "goodbyes" — one-off bonuses that senior managers sometimes receive when joining or leaving a company.
 
It also promotes greater corporate transparency, for example by requiring that all loans to executives be declared to shareholders.
The measure targets all Swiss-based companies as long as their shares are publicly traded. Breaching the rules could lead to a fine of up to six annual salaries and up to three years in prison.
"It's a powerful signal," said Thomas Minder, an independent lawmaker and businessman who was one of the main forces behind the Rip-Off Initiative.
Opponents conceded that their efforts to warn voters of the possible risks to the Swiss economy had failed.
 
"We will respect the will of the people," said Pascal Gentinetta, chairman of the powerful business lobby group economiesuisse.
But Christa Markwalder, a lawmaker with the pro-business Free Democratic Party, said foreign firms could now think twice about moving their headquarters to Switzerland, which has attracted firms such as oil rig owner Transocean Ltd., fire and safety company Tyco International Ltd., and a bakery conglomerate Aryzta AG thanks to its comparatively low taxes and light-touch regulation.
In Europe, some other countries such as the Netherlands and Denmark already have similar legislation allowing shareholders at least a binding vote on executive compensation. But in the U.S. and Britain such "say-on-pay" votes are non-binding.
 
The Swiss decision comes on the heels of a European Union decision this week to cap bankers' bonuses at one year's base salary except in the case of overwhelming shareholder approval.
The idea that shareholders should have a strong say in their company's affairs chimes with Switzerland's tradition of direct democracy. Voters in the country who collect 100,000 signatures can force a binding referendum on any issue.
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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 05:15:55 AM »
The Swiss understand the whole income inequality thing.
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 05:26:18 AM »
The Swiss understand the whole income inequality thing.

The Swiss are a bunch of Socialist.  You cant sell old furnature over there with out the Gov. approval.  If you get a ticket, it's not a set fine, it's how much it is determined you can pay.....yes you have to send in your financials.

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 06:45:54 AM »
The Swiss understand the whole income inequality thing.

The Swiss are a bunch of Socialist.  You cant sell old furnature over there with out the Gov. approval.  If you get a ticket, it's not a set fine, it's how much it is determined you can pay.....yes you have to send in your financials.

Sounds like a plan to me! Think of it: $5000 parking tickets for CEOs of big corporations! Put that in the tank of that Bimmer!
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

"'Cause what they do in Washington, they just take care of number 1. And number 1 ain't you. $__t, you ain't even number 2!" Frank Zappa

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 07:11:28 AM »
The Swiss understand the whole income inequality thing.

The Swiss are a bunch of Socialist.  You cant sell old furnature over there with out the Gov. approval.  If you get a ticket, it's not a set fine, it's how much it is determined you can pay.....yes you have to send in your financials.

Sounds like a plan to me! Think of it: $5000 parking tickets for CEOs of big corporations! Put that in the tank of that Bimmer!
The Swiss understand the whole income inequality thing.

The Swiss are a bunch of Socialist.  You cant sell old furnature over there with out the Gov. approval.  If you get a ticket, it's not a set fine, it's how much it is determined you can pay.....yes you have to send in your financials.

Sounds like a plan to me! Think of it: $5000 parking tickets for CEOs of big corporations! Put that in the tank of that Bimmer!
The Swiss understand the whole income inequality thing.

The Swiss are a bunch of Socialist.  You cant sell old furnature over there with out the Gov. approval.  If you get a ticket, it's not a set fine, it's how much it is determined you can pay.....yes you have to send in your financials.

Sounds like a plan to me! Think of it: $5000 parking tickets for CEOs of big corporations! Put that in the tank of that Bimmer!

Then move.

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 02:25:33 PM »
Problem is,,, when they draft the law to satisfy the shareholders they will give the ceo's ten times more money in the same law and a loop hole to hide it. The elite make the laws not the shareholders.

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 02:30:42 PM »
Problem is,,, when they draft the law to satisfy the shareholders they will give the ceo's ten times more money in the same law and a loop hole to hide it. The elite make the laws not the shareholders.


And who can fire the CEO.....majority shareholders

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 05:39:32 PM »
Those CEO s ain't worried about a few shareholders. If they can't take them with stealth they just tie them up with lawyers they have to pay for until their broke. I have never seen shareholders get together and do anything but bitch.

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 03:08:14 AM »
The Swiss mindset is in a league of its own. There have been attempts to copy it by other country's .
But it is something that has been handed down for century's and to them its just the way it is .
 

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 03:47:05 AM »
Fortunately it's the Swiss.  The US government can not manage itself much less anything else.
Banks need a bail out because of mismanagement and are too big to fail, so the US government gives them money.
Car manufacturers build crap cars that don't sell and go broke also too big to fail the US government gives them money.
The US government can't balance a budget and is way too big and is failing. Who is going to bail it out?
Maybe if the US stops foriegn aid, cuts the F22, F35 and 19 of the 21unmanned air vehicle programs, taxes wouldn't need to be raised and there might actually be a surplus of money.
 
Do you really want the government involved in day to day lives?

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Re: Swiss voters approve tough limits on bosses pay.
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 04:24:50 AM »
That's good news for other countries. The Swiss have given an competitive advantage away: the ability to attract top talent. I'll be this makes the Belgians, among others, very happy.