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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2013, 08:16:40 AM »
All I've ever asked is for those of you making charges to prove the points being made.  Where are all the links to articles and videos sighted on this thread to substantiate your charges (and by your, I mean the collective "your")?  If you (and the others) can post up some proof, then I'll happily admit I was wrong. 
Post up some proof!

My point is that no pics of the Sandy Hill rifle have been released, which is weird because the entire incident in centered on banning the type of rifle used.   In most crimes  the primary issue is the victim (JFK), the perpetrator (O.J. Simpson) or the political  or military relevance of the killings (Benghazi killings of Americans), NOT THE WEAPON(S) USED.  We're not arguing about the weapons used in Bengazi.

In this event the rifle (allegedly) used is the story and its picture should be released. 

To repeat:   There is no link to a picture of the Sandy Hook Rifle because no picture of the Sandy Hook Rifle has been released to link to.  That is the point  of the thread:  Still No Sandy Hook Rifle?

And again I'll say it...No one owes you or anyone else a picture of a rifle.  What difference would it make? Even if they did post a pic, you would question it's authenticity as the "actual" rifle, because you don't believe a rifle was used to begin with!
Besides, you've already answered your own question with this sentence "In most crimes  the primary issue is the victim (JFK), the perpetrator (O.J. Simpson) or the political  or military relevance of the killings (Benghazi killings of Americans), NOT THE WEAPON(S) USED. " 
You've convinced yourself that the AR-15 is the main issue in this crime and therein lies the error of your entire argument.....
It's not about the AR-15.......  It's not about gun control.......It's about 20 children and the adults who died trying to protect them from a nut job.

BTW...if you truly believe statements you make like this..... "If any person came forward and confessed, that person would be murdered or otherwise disposed of."....Why do you still live in this country?  And even if you wanted to stay here (for whatever unforseen reason) why would you risk yourself or members of your family "being murdered or otherwise disposed of" by challenging "official" versions of what occurs?

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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2013, 08:30:14 AM »
All I've ever asked is for those of you making charges to prove the points being made.  Where are all the links to articles and videos sighted on this thread to substantiate your charges (and by your, I mean the collective "your")?  If you (and the others) can post up some proof, then I'll happily admit I was wrong. 
Post up some proof!

My point is that no pics of the Sandy Hill rifle have been released, which is weird because the entire incident in centered on banning the type of rifle used.   In most crimes  the primary issue is the victim (JFK), the perpetrator (O.J. Simpson) or the political  or military relevance of the killings (Benghazi killings of Americans), NOT THE WEAPON(S) USED.  We're not arguing about the weapons used in Bengazi.

In this event the rifle (allegedly) used is the story and its picture should be released. 

To repeat:   There is no link to a picture of the Sandy Hook Rifle because no picture of the Sandy Hook Rifle has been released to link to.  That is the point  of the thread:  Still No Sandy Hook Rifle?

And again I'll say it...No one owes you or anyone else a picture of a rifle.  What difference does it make? Even if they did post a pic, you would question it's authenticity as the "actual" rifle, because you don't believe a rifle was used to begin with!

Did you ever think that maybe the reason pictures of the scene and holding up murder weapons hasn't happened is to try and spare the parents/friends/relatives  of the children killed?  Or are you so consumed by "conspiracy theories" that nothing else matters?

BTW...if you truly believe statements you make like this..... "If any person came forward and confessed, that person would be murdered or otherwise disposed of."....Why do you still live in this country?  And even if you wanted to stay here (for whatever unforseen reason) why would you risk yourself or members of your family "being murdered or otherwise disposed of" by challenging "official" versions of what occurs?

If you believe that no one is "owed" a picture of the rifle and  that it makes no "difference", you must be a fan of Hillary Clinton who also believes that it makes no difference whether the rulers of this country lie or tell the truth about important events.

The truth matters to me and to many other people, even if it makes no "difference" to you and  other conformists.

Your argument about holding back photos of the gun(s) to "spare" the families is nonsense.   This is the same justification that was used in 1963 and afterward to conceal relevant information  to "spare" the feelings of the Kennedy family.  History and the truth  belong to everyone, not to the families of people involved. 

Somehow the families' feelings are OK with  pics of their dead kids and  pics of every other AR15 in the world, but not the AR 15 purportedly  used in this crime?  This is nonsense.  This is political advocacy and dishonesty.  How  are their feelings OK when pics of their children are used for liberal political purposes,  but harmed when pics of relevant  pieces of evidence  are shown to inform people of a politically important event?

"Sparing" the families is irrelevant. I truth is not.  Our  rights do not derive from the consent of the "families,"  but the power of the  government does derive from the consent of the governed.

It is very suspicious that the families' feelings are not hurt by pics  of their children being used for political purposes by the Democrats,  but somehow  are hurt by pics of pieces of  relevant evidence relevant to a search for the truth.

The death rate in this shooting was 96%.  This exceeds  the death rate in any other mass shooting in the history of this country and it strongly suggests  more than one shooter.  If there is another shooter who has so far escaped detection, THE FAMILIES, MORE THAN ANY OTHERS, HAVE AN INTEREST IN KNOWING. If this thing is real, it's the families who should be leading the charge for a full investigation and full disclosure of the facts. 

I have been a lawyer for more than 30 years, have worked on wrongful death civil cases, some of which arose from criminal acts, and some from common types  accidents.  I will tell you something:  WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS, IT IS THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES TO CRIMINALS  WHO ARE THE MOST INTERESTED IN FINDING THE TRUTH!    

It's lying P.O.S. liberal politicians and their conformist shills  who can't handle the truth and take every possible action to suppress it, like here in the Sandy Hook incident.


Your remark  about why I remain in this country is as pointless as all of your comments.  I don't fear being killed because I was not involved in any of these events and I can't "confess."  I can do research, ask questions,  form opinions and state  my position about them.  BTW, the Florida College Professor, James Tracy, who has publicly  questioned the conformist version of Sandy Hook is now being threatened with the loss of his job... by conformists  like you  who believe we are not "owed" the truth and that thinking people  should be punished for seeking it.   

   

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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2013, 08:42:21 AM »
I AM owed pictures of the rifle, the crime scene, pictures of the rifle casing on the floors. Pictures of the 600 children leaving the school. Pictures of over 1000 parents wondering where their children are. How is it that the fire hall only blocks away has its ambulance blocked by police cars that came from miles away? Where are the pictures of the shocked first responders? Where are the interviews with the survivors/s? Why did the medical examiner laugh during his press conference? Why did no one involved cry?

Since the government is claiming that these things occurred and is using them as justification for more onerous laws infringing on the Second Amendment I AM OWED PICTURES OF ALL OF THIS. I AM OWED ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS AND MORE.

as for links to the laughing father just type in "father laughs before Sandy Hook interview"
 type in "obama laughs with girl who supposedly died at Sandy Hook"
 type in "Fema/dhs documents show exercise at Sandy Hook"

you will find all the links you need. even jjas should be able to find them

correction, 456 children
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2013, 09:07:06 AM »

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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2013, 11:08:21 AM »



http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

Thanks for the link......Interesting read for sure....Maybe lgm270 and SharonAnne can read it and offer commentary?

No pic of the gun(s) used.

No interviews with any of several surviving eye witnesses who are identified in the aftermath of the event, but some how just disappeared and were never heard from again.  Instead, we get interviews and statements  from people were not there and are reading scripts prepared by others.

No explanation for a medical examiner who says all victims were shot by the same .22 cal rifle, but can't identify the bullets as .22cal.

There's another aspect:  The early accounts related about how two teachers in their class rooms "jumped"  between the gunman and the children on whom he was opening fire.  The sources for these incredible statements are family members of the deceased teachers NONE OF WHOM WAS PRESENT.  These statements were made on Dec. 15, 2012, within 24 hours of the event.  HOW DO THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN A CLASS ROOM IN WHICH EVERY SINGLE PERSON WAS KILLED?  All of the persons who would have knowledge of whether these teachers "jumped" are dead!

It is impossible to determine if the teachers "jumped" immediately before being shot.  There is no way this can be ascertained from post mortem examinations, either at the scene or  by the medical examiner.  Only eye witnesses or video could possibly establish  the truth of this "human shield" baloney that is now an article of  faith of this event. 

The position of the teachers before they were shot can be reasonably determined from the position of them in death, the wounds, whether or not bullets passed through them and into children behind them, etc.   But it is impossible to determine if they "Jumped" before being shot, whether they "jumped" in front of the children or  jumped away from  the children  to save themselves. 

Here is a link to a December 16, 2012 story in the NY Post.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local /heroic_teachers_made_the_ultimate_yUlKFrK5Xq0l0bA3CMl65I

If you read the full story, you will see that it is nonsense.  There is not a single fact that supports the "human shield" version of this incident.



Notice this NY Post story references Natalie Hammond, an eye witness who was shot at point blank range by the shooter, was wounded in the hand, foot and leg, yet was able to escape and who, as of December 15, 2012, was "recovering" from these non-life threatening injuries.   A funny thing about this eye witness, who purportedly saw the shooter.  SHE HAS DISAPPEARED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH AND HAS NOT BEEN INTERVIEWED BY ANYONE.  This is bogus.  If this woman were for real, she would be wheeled up to congress and before every television network in the country complete with her wheel chair and her tearful, heart rending story about "the children,"  her own encounter with the shooter and a description of what happened.  The fact that she has disappeared shows there is something phoney about the whole thing.

Another eye witness who has disappeared off the face  of the earth is the "custodian" who was running down the hallways "sounding the alarm."  There are other stories which state that this as yet unnamed, unidentified  man confronted the shooter and demanded that he "Put the gun down! Put the gun down!"   This is a second eye witness who could describe the shooter, the weapons, and possibly various crimes.  This "custodian" also referenced as a "janitor" has never been interviewed, never appeared on TV (tearfully pleading for the "children") and has just dropped off the face of the earth for all practical purposes. 

If the conformist, official version of this event were true, these eye witnesses would be on the front page of every newspaper and on every network, weeping and wailing about "the children" and leading the charge for banning guns.  Yet, they have both disappeared. 

The 96% death rate, the highest in the history of mass shootings,  is ignored.   To date, the worst mass shooting was Virginia Tech in 2007, where 1 shooter shot 47 people killing 32 (68%) and wounding 17 (32%).   In 2006, a single shooter using a 30-06, 12 Ga. and 9mm pistol at an Amish school shot 10 girls, ages 6-13 and only achieved a 50% fatality rate:  5 died, 5 survived. Sandy Hook is the first mass shooting in history to get a 96% rate, with only one wounded person (aforementioned Natalie Hammond) surviving.  The fact that this shooting was so far outside the statistical norm of mass shootings has not been commented upon anywhere, but it was most certainly noted by cops and FBI whose business is to know this stuff.

We are not being told the truth about this event, which, at some level, is most certainly a hoax.   No pics of the guns. Eye witnesses just fade away.  So much of it, such as the "human shield" nonsense, is not only unsubstantiated but is not capable of being substantiated because all of the witnesses to it were dead. 

Much of the  "coverage" is just melodramatic and political narrative.  It does not even qualify as  journalism but as screenwriting.   I strongly suspect many of these stories  were created by the intelligence community to be planted in media.  This has been going on for decades.  The CIA had guys churning out book reviews and other stories designed to "de bunk" non-conformist critics of the Warren Commission Report on the JFK assassination  and to promulgate talking points  that were planted in the main stream media.     


Now we're told it will be a year before the "report" is completed.  What utter nonsense!!    The morons who elected Obama (and George W. as well) have short attention spans and the goal is not to report this incident  truthfully, but to create propaganda to support sweeping gun bans.  The disarmament of American civilians is more important to the ruling class'  conquest of this country than  any thing else at the moment. 






 

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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2013, 11:10:33 AM »
I did a people search for "Robert Parker" Newtown CT. The youngest is 52 and has no children. Where did "Robert Parker" with a dead daughter "Emilie" come from?

on youtube i found video showing how the firehall was completely boxed in by cars, jamming the 2 lane rd, 2 wide all the way out of sight. Wouldn't at least ONE ambulance have made it out of the parking lot? No pictures anywhere of an ambulance at the school. Totally bogus.
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2013, 12:04:18 PM »
SharonAnne and Lgm270,
Every single theory you two have put forth was dealt with and explained on that link.  Every single one.  At this point it's obvious that you two "want" to believe what you have posted. 
Based on that fact....I'm through wasting my time.....



I read your link. 

No pic of the guns used.

No reference to Natalie Hammond or any other eye witnesses.

No indication of how anyone knows what happened in rooms where all occupants were killed (i.e. the bogus "human shield" story.) 

No discussion of unprecedented death rate of 96%.

Thank you for not wasting any more of  our time with any more non-responsive links that ignore important issues. 

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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2013, 01:24:01 PM »
You know what they say......You can lead a conspiracy theorist to facts, but you can't make 'em think..... ;D
Enjoy your evening........

What facts? The media has obviously been telling lies about this from the get go. The story continuously changes. If you hear one lie from them how can anything else be believed from them? Or is it you just can't bring yourself to believe that this beloved government we have would never lie to us?
There have been a number of shootings lately where multiple shooters have been reported by witnesses, but our government controlled media outlets never mention them. The focus is just on one deranged shooter.
There is a big itch to disarm America, from many in our government. Why do you think that is? Do you believe the lies they spew about making us safer? Do you really think that our government wants to disarm us because they really care about our safety? Could it be they see a need for disarmament before the economic collapse.
Its obvious they are most afraid of the AR style rifle. Could it possibly be because the AR style rifle might be one of the most effective weapons against a tyrannical government? There are many other things that cause much more death than AR style rifles. So why the all out war on them from the government, and the government controlled media.     
How about the idea that some in our government are helping to create shootings, so they can easier reach their agenda of disarmament, by playing on people's fears of loonatics shooting up schools and movie theaters. this is not a far fetched idea, when we know that our government sent thousands of arms across the border to drug cartels with an indirect intent of an assault on 2nd amendment rights.
Obama, Hillary, Holder and other globalists plan to disarm America. This administration has a very good relationship with the U.N., and there is trail leading to ultimate global gun control which includes the U.S.
Obama made a statement to Sarah Brady in 2011 concerning gun control. He said "I just want you to know we are working on it. We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar" What do you think under the radar meant?
I think its pretty obvious that Obama, Hillary and Obama's stable of Czars is to subvert the Constitution, and submit to global governance. To do so America must be disarmed. Don't be so blind to think that they wouldn't commit evil acts to reach their agenda. Just try to look past the trees, you might be able to see some of the forest.   
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2013, 02:13:20 PM »
For the few of you who believe all of this a setup, what possible upside would there be for "making this up"?.......


same reason they let the mexicans buy guns
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2013, 02:50:05 PM »
Even if you folks were given access to every picture, every report, and could talk to every person involved in Sandy Hook many of you would still claim it either never happened or it was perpetrated by the Government to disarm the population.  I'm sure there are some here who don't believe the moon landings happened either. 
Do I think the Democrats are using what happened to push their anti-gun agenda?  Of course. All politicians are opportunists.
Am I worried about it?  Nope.....I feel pretty confident in saying that sweeping gun control will never make it through this House of Representatives. 
Have a good evening.....


how about some liitle law thats gets them a little closer to disarming us??
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2013, 03:05:04 PM »
it was perpetrated by the Government to disarm the population.

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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2013, 04:16:51 PM »
I could hypothesize that going public in such a situation could actually provide a level of safety, both by making it harder for the accuser to "disapperar", and also by labeling them as so delusional that any claims are discounted. I certainly have no doubt that children were shot and died, and that it was a catastrophic event. I am less certain regarding the weapon used or the circumstances of the actual crime. I see no reason that there are not pictures from security cameras, first responders entry, crime scene photo's, etc being reported on, also on the psychiatric condition and medication status of the shooter. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but the reporting does leave a lot to be desired.
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« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2013, 04:08:55 AM »
The today show had a news story on the shooting, it said 4 hand guns were used and no rifle. And Jersey being black has nothing to do with my hatred for BHO, everything he believes in is why I hate the parasite, and all the parasites who support him.
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« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2013, 04:17:38 AM »
jjas and mike from virginia: they hate obama (and by extension everything he believes in) because he is black.
we hate  his white half too!!


how do you explain  my black friends  and halfrican friends that hate him too??


obumer was elected  by PARASITES AND ENABLERS
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2013, 04:33:45 AM »
jjas and mike from virginia: they hate obama (and by extension everything he believes in) because he is black.

In your twisted way of thinking, just know, that black has nothing at all to do with it. This is one of the biggest leftest lies out there. Because we don't like the Obama administrations policies, nor the way he governs, the first lie to pop up is "they don't like him because he's black". This is one of the most pathetic, and lame excuses out there. There are many here who would have liked to see Allen Keys and other righteous black men as a president, but I guess they just didn't have enough santa clause in them to get elected.
Hate is also another big leftist word. The man is not hated, but his policies truly are. I really would support the guy if he would just change his policies toward what is best for America, and abide by the Constitution. America's foundation is crumbling, yet people are supporting a man and government that are destroying the foundation further. Ignorance really is bliss. What is needed is for many Americans to awake from their slumber, and they all will one day, but by then it will surely be to late.     
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2013, 11:57:12 AM »
having never met the illegal alien in the Oval Office I have no hate for him. What I hate is the flagrant disregard for the Constitution as well as his campaign promises. This past election he promised to lower the deficit then once elected said he had no problem with unlimited raising of the deficit. he is working hard at making the USA a third world country.
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2013, 12:19:54 PM »
having never met the illegal alien in the Oval Office I have no hate for him. What I hate is the flagrant disregard for the Constitution as well as his campaign promises. This past election he promised to lower the deficit then once elected said he had no problem with unlimited raising of the deficit. he is working hard at making the USA a third world country.


let me be clear


I HATE HIM  AND ANY ONE THAT IS DESTROYING  OUR COUNTRY


IFyou  don'r hate him  i must ask you  WHY?
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

many statements made here are fiction and are for entertainment purposes only and are in no way to be construed as a description of actual events.
no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2013, 01:52:53 PM »
I hate him and the rest of the scum in Washington.
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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2013, 02:00:06 PM »
.45-70  I have never met him. in person he may be a nice guy. I doubt it based on his policies.
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2013, 03:35:51 PM »
.45-70  I have never met him. in person he may be a nice guy. I doubt it based on his policies.


HOW CAN HE BE  A''NICE GUY''?
HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROJECT THAT  IMAGE THO


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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2013, 04:45:13 AM »
'project that image' ok, I accept that.   Based on his behavior I would say I hate him too.
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2013, 06:52:26 AM »
Lots of folks might be a nice guy.  The black guy or the Mexican that holds the door for you at the grocery store, might be a nice guy.  But Obama cannot be considered a nice guy under any circumstance.  He is as close to Satan as any human who ever lived.  He is only restrained by law.  He wants all laws to be his and his alone.  He wants to be king.  He wants Muslims to respect him.  He wants the nation to fail by his own hand.  He is very definitley not a nice guy.  He is the worst of the worst.  Make no mistake; Obama is contained only by the little decency America retains.  No horror can befall him that's bad enough.  Biden and his cronies are nowhere close to the evil that resides inside Obama.  Democrats as a whole are screwed up with views we can't accept, but they are not individually evil.  Some may be, I don't know.  But I'm certain Obama worships Muslims and is absolutely everything anti-American and dead set against anything that would help us as a nation.  If he can't be king, he wants us to fail, utterly.

Obama is a communist.  I read both of his books...several times. Studied his family photos, stuidied the lives of his parents, which are largely fictions created by public relations professionals and forgers...his hatred of white people, America and White European civilization is open proclaimed.

He hates white people, America and is determined to destroy both.

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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2013, 06:57:47 AM »
Folks if you can't at least "pretend" to be adults and start acting the part this thread will be locked. Some of you are likely to get a "time out" of at least ten days minimum as well. Yes Mike in Virginia and jjas this means you.

Stop attacking each other and discuss the issues. If you can't do that then get out of the discussion. Further personal attacks and name calling in this thread gets you a minimum of a ten day ban.

You need to read the rules of this site and if you don't like them juslt drop off and avoid the site altogether.


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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2013, 08:09:31 AM »
have Mike in V and jjas been bad boys? Oh how I do love the ignore function  ::)
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2013, 08:22:58 AM »
I do find it odd that with Obama's background and the way he governs, that there are people that think there is no possible way he or others in this government would, or could ever commit evil acts, for the purpose of fulfilling his and others agenda.
The media hid Obama's past, and many just refuse to acknowledge his past. His ties with know communists like Frank Marshall Davis, Vernon Jarrett, Addie Wyatt, Bill Ayers, and Bernadine Dohrn. Along with all kinds of election support from the communist party. Its all just shrugged off as irrelevant. Obama's sister was given the communist Front award, but most have never heard of that.
 Everything that Obama is telling us he will bring us, is everything that the ex-Soviet union did. He is doing everything the ex-Soviet did in their worst years. In the early years of the Soviet Union, Christianity was suppressed. Its a must for a Communist takeover, just as is disarming citizens. There are those in Russia who claim Obama is a communist without question. He is purging our top military leaders that refuse to follow his program. Then there is his red carpet invitations to Islamic Radicals.
You never hear anything about the communist party. Thats because the media keeps them hidden, just like they hid Obama's past.
Ever stop and think why guys like Castro, Chavez, Putin, and the Communist party all endorsed Obama for election? The Communist party says they have won in America, where they lost in Soviet Union.
I think that one is pretty void of thought if they think Obama and others in government are incapable of evil acts against Americans to reach an agenda. Obama has goals that require evil acts to accomplish. Its just astonishing that so many fell for the hope and change lie, and still do.
America is coming to an end as we know it, and when we reach the bottom, many will wonder what happened. The blame for it all will be placed on conservatives, capitalists, corporations, and rich people. Just as where the blame is being placed now. As long as enough people can be convinced that this government is looking out for our best interests, the faster the demise of America will come.
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2013, 01:09:25 PM »
gol dang it GB you made me look. After a nap (my advanced age don't you know) I went back through this page to read EVERYTHING. I don't get it. Perhaps I have thicker skin than GB. Or, maybe, I just don't get it.


To get back to the rifle, when JFK was killed, even in the old black and white days, we saw the rifle within hours, or was it minutes?
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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2013, 02:22:59 PM »
gol dang it GB you made me look. After a nap (my advanced age don't you know) I went back through this page to read EVERYTHING. I don't get it. Perhaps I have thicker skin than GB. Or, maybe, I just don't get it.


To get back to the rifle, when JFK was killed, even in the old black and white days, we saw the rifle within hours, or was it minutes?

Well said.  The concealment of the guns in this incident is highly suspect.  All of the reporting of this event has been designed to promote the agenda of gun control and ultimate gun confiscation.  In many ways, the gun  or guns used are more relevant to the story than other facts incidental to the killing of people.

We have a right to ask questions and a right to demand pictures of relevant pieces of evidence, most emphatically the gun(s) used.

I saw today where they're talking about demolishing the school.  Another person, who lives in that area, has  posted that the school is surrounded by barbed wire.   I can't confirm the barbed wire story, but it is obvious that the crime scene will not be around very long.   

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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2013, 03:36:44 PM »
Good advice, Graybeard.  Sorry I disrupted things.  I think it best for all if I just go away.  It's been nice.  Made some friends here. 

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Re: Still no Sandy Hook Rifle?
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2013, 03:39:38 AM »
while i am cautious about the application of conspiracy theories, it cannot be denied that this administration HAS engaged in one 'black flag' operation, known as 'fast and furious' and as such, it would not be unreasonable to suspect them of being capable of perpetrating others!!!!