Bigfeet

[pastorp]

Boy howdy has this forum gone rouge.  anybody seen any bigfeet lately. 

Regards,

[Specklebelly]

Boy howdy has this forum gone rouge.  anybody seen any bigfeet lately. 

Regards,

Just when I put my shoes on each morning.   

[Tal_Branco]

Boy howdy has this forum gone rouge.  anybody seen any bigfeet lately. 

Regards,

After having spent forty plus years in the field investigating reports of Bigfoot encounters by hundreds of credible witnesses in fifteen south/southeastern states, I continue to receive to several eyewitness reports a week. Although I no longer do field investigations outside my home state of Arkansas, I receive more reports than I can investigate. Many of these AR reports come from areas not far from home, so those are the ones I zero in on now. The last good look I've had at a Bigfoot - a near grown male - was on July 27, 2010 in the Ouachita National Forest in Saline County. (A lot of the field investigation reports I've written concerning encounters by AR witnesses are posted on Bobbie Short's web site: Bigfoot Encounters.com under "Stories, Sightings, Encounters, Letters.")
 
Not many folks that have seen one or more of the creatures have the guts to talk about it publicly because of the typical ridicule from people that don't have a clue, but know it all. Glad to see a few folks on the forum that have seen them and have got the guts to discuss their sightings.
 
 
 

[ultramag44]

Not lately (unless 1971 is lately), but having seen 4 @ once in broad daylight and being able to observe them for several minutes is somewhat unusual & noteworthy.

After reading every book I could get my hands on, I now know my sighting was a rare event. However, the habitat was prime BF territory. Plenty of water (observed right next to a stream), plenty of brushy cover and much game animals (food) in the area.

After having read many reports, I always look for reports where the witness was able to observe & describe in the face in detail.   Some report a "ape-like" face. Others describe a "human like" face, others describe a "a combination of human & ape features".

While witness reports can vary in quality due to stress from seeing a BF, when there are constantly re-occurring details, especially over many years, different locations etc, repeatability leads one to accept this is what is really being observed.

The following is merely my ramblings. Feel free to disagree in the strongest terms.

Why then the different facial descriptions? The ape like face points to a being closer to the ape side of primate.  The human like face is indicative of a human being. Now, supposedly, Neanderthal man is extinct. But is Neanderthal  man actually extinct? I wonder... We know from fossils that Neanderthal and cro-magna interbred, so the two species were very close on a DNA level. Lastly we have the "ape & human appearing" report. There are reports of BF taking First Nation women and forcing them to bear children. Is this the reason for the plethora of ape & human featured BF's?  A hybrid being would explain this.

If so, that is an extremely good reason to not hunt down a BF and shot it!

It seems those who do manage to get an alleged sample  of BF DNA always get a stock answer of "unknown primate" from the lab. They also seem to have trouble getting the sample returned. Is there a special phone number the labs call and say to whomever picks up the phone, "we got one.".

The person on the other end of the phone says, "We will be right there with a DNA typing printout and a substitute sample that you will hand to those who brought you the sample. We will also bring you a cash payment for your trouble / silence."

I had a conversation with a retired Texas Chief of Detectives. I asked if a person's civil rights were void if their body was hair covered, smelly and their face ugly.  His answer was "Not in the slightest!"

If Joe-Bob the bumpkin pulls into town with the freshly shot carcass of BF and the story & pics of him standing there grinning with his .338 Win Mag and his foot on the carcass go viral on the net and TV news before the govt. fixers arrive, Joe-Bob may be in a world of trouble!  Capital Murder is the worst if DNA shows it's Neanderthal (still a human variant). If it's a Hybrid human / BF, same story. If it's a ape, he has poached and killed state property.  Perhaps he was trespassing on  private property, another charge.  No hunting license? Possession of a firearm in the woods w/o proper reason?

"But, it charged @ me Sheriff, I was just defending myself, honest!"

"Really? Prove it!"

Again, all this is just my hypothetical situation. I claim no status. Maybe I'm just a lucky guy that God chose to see 4 BF's a long time ago. On that, yeah, I can claim something.

[Ranger99]

i've not seen one lately and
don't want to.

[BUGEYE]

obama killed a hairy faced man with a drone.  I want him arrested.

[Specklebelly]

Not lately (unless 1971 is lately), but having seen 4 @ once in broad daylight and being able to observe them for several minutes is somewhat unusual & noteworthy.

  Can you provide more details on this experience?  Thank you

[trotterlg]

Well half human is not human, I think I will say I though it was going to eat me and put a hole through it, until someone does that this will go on for ever.  Larry

[Victor3]

The last good look I've had at a Bigfoot - a near grown male - was on July 27, 2010 in the Ouachita National Forest in Saline County.

 Just curious TB; how many good looks at one have you had in total?

[Tal_Branco]

Have seen two (on different dates) clearly during the day, and one BIG male at night within two/three feet of me. Have had brief glimpses of others in other states. Have heard a BUNCH of them at different times and in different  states; some in groups and some indiviuals - as far as I could determine. Have had to leave four areas at night - one in WV, two in AL and the same area in AR three times - because I was pressing my luck with them. A lot of fun though....after I got back to my truck. 

[SHOOTALL]

any sighted in Va. ? I have never seen one .

[Tal_Branco]

Yes, there have been numerous sightings in VA. What county (or counties) do you hunt, fish or hike in? I'll send you links to the nearest sighting locations.

[theratdog]

i sure would like to see one. there has been quite a few sightings here in Utah.

[Victor3]

Have seen two (on different dates) clearly during the day, and one BIG male at night within two/three feet of me.

It's a shame you didn't obtain any evidence. I guarantee you I would have. Heart failure + the shocked look frozen on my dead face should convince anybody.

[Tal_Branco]

Victor3: I have to say that all of those three were part of a family group of the "Big Reds" that I had been messing with for over two and one-half years in the Ouachitas. I had treated them with respect and had given them food. They - like all wild primates - remember individuals who treat them right and mean them no harm, and will try to interact with them. It's a slow process, but can be an awesome experience. The two big males in the group set the rules for me being in their family's home territory, and most of the time I followed the rules. The two times I broke the rules they let me know I had screwed up. The second time one of them was so mad that I thought he was going to rip my head off. I backed WAY off for a while, but in a few weeks they accepted me back after I brought them ten gallons of pears and some other goodies. No more problems. After that it was all fun.
 
Had this been some of the short, stocky more ape-like primates with black hair, I would never have been able to interact with them. They are very different from the "big reds".
 
I think I had a little edge on most folks in dealing with wild primates after having spent nearly ten years working in Brazil and spending my off time in the Amazon basin hunting and fishing with some of the native Indians who were excellent woodsmen, trackers and huters.
 
There are numerous people here in the states that have been peacfully interactying with the "Big Reds" for much longer times than I. I have learned a LOT from them also.
 
 
 
 

[pastorp]

Tal_Branco,

Tell us more about these rules the big feet have when you are interacting with them.  and please define interacting. What does that include.

Regards,

[Victor3]

 TB,


 What type (red or black) might I encounter in the Southern Sierras of CA?


 Also, what is your position on the theories that these creatures are different than other primates; that they have an ability to jump dimensions and/or supernatural qualities?


 TB, I'm a skeptic but open to the possibility that these creatures exist. Just for reference, this is text from another post I made on this forum...


"Although I'm not ready to say that it's impossible for bigfoot to be out there, you're probably right, EQ. IMO, it's improbable that such a creature exists and I do not believe that one does.  However, knowing that Hiroo Onada (see link in my previous post) evaded multiple search parties for 30 years (along with two others for part of that time) on a 48 square mile populated island, it makes me wonder if a tribe of intelligent & secretive humanoids, born & raised in vast unpopulated forest land couldn't conceal themselves for 300 hundred years if they've determined to do so for their survival.   Even in the past 100 years (a little more than 3x the time that Onada hid himself), there haven't been very many people making concerted efforts to find these creatures. Consequently, I can't say with certainty that they do not exist."

[Tal_Branco]

Tal_Branco,

Tell us more about these rules the big feet have when you are interacting with them.  and please define interacting. What does that include.

Regards,

Stay away from their bedding area, don't try to sneak around to find them, don't carry a firearm or camera when they come around for food or just to watch to you, don't try to ambush them with a camera at the only nearby cold spring in the hot and dry summer-that one is a big no-no. Don't turn a bright light toward them at night when you've called them in where you are leaving food at night, achnowledge their presence around the camp at night when you hear them walking around by briefly waving your hand and speaking, then turn around and go about your cooking or whatever and talk to them in a normal tone. They like slow instrumental music. Leave food in paper plates or on a stump or rock and put it at the edge of thick brush so they can reach out from concealment to take it. Just the basics. That's interacting with them on a simple level; many people go many steps further.

[Tal_Branco]

TB,


 What type (red or black) might I encounter in the Southern Sierras of CA?


 Also, what is your position on the theories that these creatures are different than other primates; that they have an ability to jump dimensions and/or supernatural qualities?


 TB, I'm a skeptic but open to the possibility that these creatures exist. Just for reference, this is text from another post I made on this forum...


"Although I'm not ready to say that it's impossible for bigfoot to be out there, you're probably right, EQ. IMO, it's improbable that such a creature exists and I do not believe that one does.  However, knowing that Hiroo Onada (see link in my previous post) evaded multiple search parties for 30 years (along with two others for part of that time) on a 48 square mile populated island, it makes me wonder if a tribe of intelligent & secretive humanoids, born & raised in vast unpopulated forest land couldn't conceal themselves for 300 hundred years if they've determined to do so for their survival.   Even in the past 100 years (a little more than 3x the time that Onada hid himself), there haven't been very many people making concerted efforts to find these creatures. Consequently, I can't say with certainty that they do not exist."

Most of the sighting reports from the west or black ones I believe. Review the reports from the CA county you hunt in on the BFRO's data base. It will tell you more. I am only familiar with the primates in the south and southeastern states.
 
The BF are simply smart, reclusive, and mostly nocturnal animals that generally don't trust us. Nothing supernatural about them, not shape-shifters, just VERY good at disappearing from a human's view in a couple of heart beats. (Been there, seen that! - Unbelievable fast and surefooted in any terrain!)
 
And they haven't concealed themselves for 300 years here and in Canada; tens of thousands of credible witnesses from about every profession have seen them, some many more than once. I understand you can't say they exist. As I've said many times before: It only takes a few seconds for a person to know they exist, but you can't convince others of what you saw. So I don't really try to do that. At 78, I really don't care about proving their existence. That would mess up my fun. My season is year round, with dang little competition for the good hunting sites. 
 
Thanks for your interest. Kindest regards.

[Victor3]

...don't carry a firearm... Don't turn a bright light toward them at night...

 Well TB, that lets me out. I'm never without those particular items while out in the sticks at night.


I can see it now - "Vic, there's a 9' tall hairy creature behind and to your left about 20 yards out. Don't pick up your shotgun or shine a light on it though."

Waiter, check please!

[vbhunter]

TB,


Normally, I would just write you off as some crazy old coot, but a buddy and I saw something once in the Quachita National Forest back in the spring of 1975 (during turkey season) that still leaves us both scratching our heads and saying "What was that?".  We only saw it from the waist down standing behind a cedar tree.  "It" had walked up to within 30 yards of our camp as we sat there eating lunch, and stood there behind the tree for about 5 minutes watching us.  It's legs looked huge, and were completely covered in coarse dark brown (almost black) hair that had a faint reddish tint to it when the sun hit it as the cedar limbs were being blown by the wind.  My buddy and I both sat there frozen with fear because we knew that our 12 gauges loaded with #4's would have no effect if it came closer and threatened us.  Because of the cedar trees, all we could see was from about the waist down to the ground, so we never got a look at it's face.  It finally turned and ran straight away just like a man on two legs at an incredible speed. 


It was no bear, and it was no human that I have ever seen.  If it was a man, judging by the legs, he must have been at least 8' tall, and had to have been wearing hairy pantyhose.  We both walked over to the tree and took turns standing behind it while the other looked from where we were sitting.  The lowest cedar limbs only covered from our neck up, so we both would have only been as tall as maybe the top of it's stomach. 


To this day, I don't know what it was, and don't care to even speculate.  Before this incident, I laughed at those people who claimed to have seen bigfoot or UFO's, but I don't anymore, although I'm still a little skeptical.  There could still be some logical explanation, although I don't know what it would be.  It's just one of those things I just have to shrug my shoulders and realize there are a lot of things in this world I don't understand, and never will.

[mmt7714]

I used to be very open to the idea of bigfoot existing. Now? Well, I have come to the conclusion that no such thing exists. I am 100% certain of this. Not one single shred of credible evidence has ever been shown to prove the existence of a large hairy ape like creature that roams the U.S. Now, I know that people will say " I saw one, I know what I saw!" This is all fine and dandy, but I don't know what you saw. The main thing that has brought me to my conclusion is the increase of popularity of looking for bigfoot, the advances in modern technology meaning trail cameras, thermal imaging, etc... Also, instead of just a few isolated cases of these creatures existing, now they are supposed to live in every state, country, province, county, city, and so on. This would mean thousands of animals living completely hidden from human discovery. Sorry, I just don't buy that. No credible pictures, videos, dna, no bodies, bones, nothing. Just a bunch of eye witness reports, which as anyone knows are extremely sketchy to put it mildly. There are also many more people taking to the wilderness for recreation now than ever, but yet still no credible evidence. Just doesn't add up.
 
Mike

[vbhunter]

I used to be very open to the idea of bigfoot existing. Now? Well, I have come to the conclusion that no such thing exists. I am 100% certain of this. Not one single shred of credible evidence has ever been shown to prove the existence of a large hairy ape like creature that roams the U.S. Now, I know that people will say " I saw one, I know what I saw!" This is all fine and dandy, but I don't know what you saw. The main thing that has brought me to my conclusion is the increase of popularity of looking for bigfoot, the advances in modern technology meaning trail cameras, thermal imaging, etc... Also, instead of just a few isolated cases of these creatures existing, now they are supposed to live in every state, country, province, county, city, and so on. This would mean thousands of animals living completely hidden from human discovery. Sorry, I just don't buy that. No credible pictures, videos, dna, no bodies, bones, nothing. Just a bunch of eye witness reports, which as anyone knows are extremely sketchy to put it mildly. There are also many more people taking to the wilderness for recreation now than ever, but yet still no credible evidence. Just doesn't add up.
 
Mike

Good point, and it makes a lot of sense, and I agree 100% with your logic.  However, it doesn't help me explain what my buddy and I saw as described in a previous post.  It will bother me until the day I die.

[Ranger99]

well. . .if it is a costumed person like
everyone insists, they're either totally
stupid or they have big brass ----s , or
both. there's no way a sane person would
run around made up and risk getting killed.
i'm with vbhunter, nobody has ever explained
to me what i saw , and i'll not forget it.
i've been in the woods most of my life, and
i've yet to see everything there is to see.

[kynardsj]

Tal_Branco, where in Alabama did you see bigfoot ?

[kynardsj]

As far as Bigfoot goes I'm one of the skeptable folks. Have spent the major part of my 60 year life hunting, fishing and primitive camping here in Alabama with no unexplained happenings until about a year or so ago. We live in a communtity out in the country and our house sits in the edge of some beautiful woods. Lots of deer, turkey, squirrels and such. My wife and I both smoke and go outside to do it. I went out one night and was doing my thing and looking at a beautiful full moon. I'm used to hearing deer and other critters moving thru the woods but that night something came running over the hill and into the bottom about 50 yards or so from the house. This in itself wasn't strange but what ever it was stopped and was breathing hard, like a winded person breathing hard thru his mouth. It got my attention to the point that I went in, got one of my 45's and then finished my smoke outside with it beside me. Even on a full moon night a person would crash into something running thru the woods. Never heard it leave, haven't heard anything like that since but it was a strange situation.

[mmt7714]

Everyone knows that eye witness testimony/stories are the least credible evidence of anything. Like I said before, everyone always says "I know what I saw" and I completely understand. I am in no way calling anyone here a liar, but I do tend to put eye witnesses into a few categories. Liars/Hoaxers, those that were hoaxed, and mis-identification. I have a very good friend that is in his 40's now, but when he was young swears up and down he and a friend saw something bigfoot like in the honey island swamp. He will tell you he doesn't believe in bigfoot, but he doesn't know  what the hell he saw. I believe he saw something, but not bigfoot.
 
Mike

[Tal_Branco]

Tal_Branco, where in Alabama did you see bigfoot ?

Kynardsj: I have had only brief, partial body views of those in AL. The two that I saw very clearly, and the huge one that was within two or three feet of me was in darkness and all I could see was his body outlined against the night sky, were in Saline County. AR.
 
AS for Alabama, I had a brief, daytime partial-body view of one in northern Winston County along the southern tip of the Sipsey Wilderness inside the William B. Bankhead N. F. (I was investigating a report from a group of campers that had hiked into that area and were harassed by a group of the animals during the early morning hours of their first (and last) night there.)
 
Another brief glimpse, by the beam of a Q beam light, of the left arm, shoulder and head of an eight footer in Cullman County near the upper end of Smith Lake. (A church group camped on the lake had also been intimidated by a group of the BF, and I was asked to meet some of them down there.)
 
Saw the outline of head, with bright eyeshine, of another tall one that came to a recorded call, crashing through downed timber and snapping large oak limbs in Clarke County right after Hurricane Ivan. He had crossed a ravine and was hiding behind one of the few remaining large trees about fifty yards below me. (Investigating reports from several area residents.)
 
Saw the back of one crashing through a thicket late one afternoon, near dark, in Lowndes County, but so close to the Dallas County line I'm not sure which county. (I was there doing a follow-up investigation on a hunter's report that was published in the Alabama Game & Fish magazine. Found out and wrote there was even more to the story than what was published. LOL.)
 
I, and many others who have been with me at various times and locations, have heard Bigfoot vocalizations, the noises they made beating rocks against rocks, or limbs against trees, in Talladega, Bullock, Barbour, Monroe, Walker, Morgan, Franklin and the other counties mention above. Have been in the majority of the counties in AL, MANY times in the counties mentioned.
 
Regards

[kynardsj]

I have a friend that hunted southeast Dallas county out Hwy 41 toward Camden and said he and several others saw some on several occasions. The he also said they saw some UFO's too. I just told him "o.............k............" and try to change the subject.

[Tal_Branco]

Well, I'm not sure sure what your friend and others saw in SE Dallas county, but I can tell you that several friends of mine who hunt Dallas and all counties in SE Arkansas have seen many of the big hairy rascals. One friend just had a dog killed by one this past Monday with no question about the animal that did it. SE AR has more of the things per land area than anywhere else in the state, except maybe the SW corner of the state.
 
I too have some doubt his and his friends' sightings because of his UFO statement and because of the fact that I never heard of of a highway 41 in that county, or in Ouachita County in which Camden is located. If there is such a highway, it appears to be missing from the four different types of hard copy maps I use and Google earth. (If you know where that road is located, let me. Maybe I overlooked I.)