Cause of Gun Violence

[Hairy Chest]

It's mostly about demographics.  Gun crime in America by whites is the same as it is in Belgium.  So, the problem isn't about 'guns' or 'mentally ill' as much as it is about race.  Who's doing the crime?  You see, you can't discuss truths if they threaten the status quo.  And the status quo means more nonwhite immigration, which results in more gun violence, which results in calls for gun control on law abiding citizens.  The problem is multiculturalism and immigration. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/ann-coulter-gun-white-populations_n_2479240.html?utm_hp_ref=media

[BUGEYE]

I can't argue with that.

[Redtail1949]

i bet if we divided the nation top to whites bottom to blacks the gun violence would continue just the same in either halve. race while a part of some the crime is not the cause of it all. also, if we take all guns then we humans being the resourceful things we are, will start beating each other to death with shovels.

[SharonAnne]

I always wonder why the emphasis on GUN violence since it is the smallest part of violence in the country. Rifles are used in less that 3.5% of violence. Then the so called 'assault weapon' is a subset of rifles. Just another feel good law that will look good to the sheeple but do NOTHING

[mcwoodduck]

No matter what the new reaction gun laws are.
The questions is, how would it have stopped the last three gun violence attacks?
If the answer is this is how it would have stopped the last loosers that did it then OK but untill then ...
The only new laws are implmentations of the gun grabbers making hey out of the tragic events.
The problem is on the Form it asks if you have been deemed crazy by a court.  It does not ask if you are under a doctors care for mental health and then how do you check it?  Huge privacy issues.  The liberals are more than willing to allow the government to climb up many orfices if you are a gun owner but they are not willing to infringe on the Doctor Patient privlidge especally for the mentally ill. 
The Rap videos, the rap songs, the movies, the video games all glorify violence.  the media then go over and over the shooting again and agian and turn the person into a celebrity.  how many times di we hear about the two morons that attacked Collumbine HS and how many kids wanted to be famous like them. 
 

[Mikey]

I always thought it was liberals and democraps, directly or otherwise...

[BUGEYE]

No matter what the new reaction gun laws are.
The questions is, how would it have stopped the last three gun violence attacks?
If the answer is this is how it would have stopped the last loosers that did it then OK but untill then ...
The only new laws are implmentations of the gun grabbers making hey out of the tragic events.
The problem is on the Form it asks if you have been deemed crazy by a court.  It does not ask if you are under a doctors care for mental health and then how do you check it?  Huge privacy issues.  The liberals are more than willing to allow the government to climb up many orfices if you are a gun owner but they are not willing to infringe on the Doctor Patient privlidge especally for the mentally ill. 
The Rap videos, the rap songs, the movies, the video games all glorify violence.  the media then go over and over the shooting again and agian and turn the person into a celebrity.  how many times di we hear about the two morons that attacked Collumbine HS and how many kids wanted to be famous like them.

Good post as usual.. the worst violence in movies or TV should be wylie coyote and the road runner.

[Hairy Chest]

I can't argue with that.

Man evolved at different rates depending on geographical area.  Depending on the area, differences in cranial capacity which correlates directly to IQ has manifested itself in different species.  Thus, one species produces "thinkers", the other "sprinters".  Don't you suppose the ability to be civilized varies?  If it does, what led to that development?  There is no question that among the races there are different behavior attributes.  It is not an individual thing, because nowhere did man evolved individually.  He evolved in groups and these were confined to geographical areas.  This brought him from Austropethicus to Homo Sapiens and depending on the origin we are analyzing, the transition to man could have happened either 750,000 years ago (Europe) or 30,000 years ago (Africa), again, depending on which area we are studying. 

So why leave race out of the discussion?  Race is primarily the determining factor for gun violence.  First you need aggression.  What governs that?  Does biology play a part?  Of course.  Then there is culture (RAP) and add higher cranial capacity man's technology (weapons) and that equals trouble. 

Coulter is right and we need to stand behind her statements on demographics.  Failure to do so is cowardice, and cowardice will be rewarded with more gun control.  The enemy will use the omission of stating the greatest reason for violence, biology, and replace it with "hi capacity magazines" or certain styles of weapons, and the Social Democrats will win the debate.  We can't let that happen! 

[ironglow]

  While I usually disagree vehemently with Hairy on such subjects, he may have something here, perhaps not so much racially as culturally.  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703515504576142190857662716.html
       Switzerland requires their active & inactive military personnel keep their weapons at home so as to be ready to defend the homeland in it's mountain fastness.  This includes rifles, handguns and those horrible "assault guns"..(real ones that is).  Switzerland is no more "wild & wooly" than the European countyries which have an Obama complex about RTKBA.
 
   The killers are PEOPLE..not guns..
 
 

[Hairy Chest]

  While I usually disagree vehemently with Hairy on such subjects, he may have something here, perhaps not so much racially as culturally.  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703515504576142190857662716.html
       Switzerland requires their active & inactive military personnel keep their weapons at home so as to be ready to defend the homeland in it's mountain fastness.  This includes rifles, handguns and those horrible "assault guns"..(real ones that is).  Switzerland is no more "wild & wooly" than the European countyries which have an Obama complex about RTKBA.
 
   The killers are PEOPLE..not guns..
 
 

So why are the prisons in America dangerous?  Is it because the negros and mestizos need Swiss culture?  Put them in Switzerland and you will have the problems that exist in Norway by immigration and integration.  Or put Jews in a European country and watch what happens to that country's finances.  We can say the people lost their money due to "another culture, " to say the least.     Either way, the way we need to look at it is a civilized people, white Europeans are taken over by peoples of hate.  Then those peoples blame "guns" and us when it is really them who are the cause.  You can say we have had enough of their "cultural enrichment."   

[jimster]

Whatever the the cause of gun violence, it is the same for ball bat violence, hammer violence, or knife violence or beating someone up with your hands...maybe we should just ask what is the cause of violence and not make it a gun thing. I'm not sure what all of what contributes to violence, but I would suspect not punishing these people long enough or hard enough is the cause for seeing more of it. A large percentage of violent people do have a history, they have been locked up before, maybe letting them out is our first mistake. Two elderly people in their 80's about two miles from me was murdered for no reason at all a couple weeks ago, this guy broke into their home, and after he killed them both, he stole their car, drove it to another area and set it on fire. After looking for a certain person for the last couple of weeks, they finally found the suspect they were looking for in Chicago. He had a long history of being locked up, and already had other warrants out on him for other stuff.
It appears the same people that want to outlaw guns are the same people that do not want to punish these people, and they are also responsible for the deaths of these two nice old people. So I guess my logic tells me the left wing liberal society is responsible for a large share of violence. It's really their fault, they created the situation and the means for violent people to exist in our society. Many of them want to make it harder to defend ourselves in some states as well.
The cause of violence are the people that condone it, nurture it and create a society that leads to it through social engineering. There will always be a certain amount of violence, but to raise the levels up like they are, you need to have repeat offenders of the laws already in place and minimal punishments.  If society would have kept this criminal locked up that killed these two people, or killed him long ago for his crimes, two nice old people would be alive today, and there would have been less violence so close to me.
Guns have nothing to do with violence as far as "cause". The two are not related. You could relate the left wing ideology more closely with violence than guns if your taking "cause"....in my opinion.

[Hairy Chest]

Whatever the the cause of gun violence, it is the same for ball bat violence, hammer violence, or knife violence or beating someone up with your hands...maybe we should just ask what is the cause of violence and not make it a gun thing. I'm not sure what all of what contributes to violence, but I would suspect not punishing these people long enough or hard enough is the cause for seeing more of it. A large percentage of violent people do have a history, they have been locked up before, maybe letting them out is our first mistake. Two elderly people in their 80's about two miles from me was murdered for no reason at all a couple weeks ago, this guy broke into their home, and after he killed them both, he stole their car, drove it to another area and set it on fire. After looking for a certain person for the last couple of weeks, they finally found the suspect they were looking for in Chicago. He had a long history of being locked up, and already had other warrants out on him for other stuff.
It appears the same people that want to outlaw guns are the same people that do not want to punish these people, and they are also responsible for the deaths of these two nice old people. So I guess my logic tells me the left wing liberal society is responsible for a large share of violence. It's really their fault, they created the situation and the means for violent people to exist in our society. Many of them want to make it harder to defend ourselves in some states as well.
The cause of violence are the people that condone it, nurture it and create a society that leads to it through social engineering. There will always be a certain amount of violence, but to raise the levels up like they are, you need to have repeat offenders of the laws already in place and minimal punishments.  If society would have kept this criminal locked up that killed these two people, or killed him long ago for his crimes, two nice old people would be alive today, and there would have been less violence so close to me.
Guns have nothing to do with violence as far as "cause". The two are not related. You could relate the left wing ideology more closely with violence than guns if your taking "cause"....in my opinion.

Absolutely.  It is the purveyors of violence, the media, that is corrupting our people.  It is worse than their own behavior.  Their biggest danger to us is how they corrupt us.  If we weren't so corrupted, we would throw them out.  But see, we can't, because we are overly influenced.  We are influenced by their entertainment and the violence it espouses.  This system thrives on corrupting our youth with violent video games.  Adults take this corrupt influence to a higher level in the drone warfare we see being practiced.  This is an unnatural situation, to allow ourselves to be corrupted and then engage in real violence which destroys other people.  And when we destroy them, they retaliate to destroy us, and then we have a cycle of violence.  The same media then tells us we are engaged in war for freedom and democracy, the movies and video games brainwash the masses to believe the cause of violence is moral, but then we logically analyze the situation. We can see how we are being manipulated against our own ethnic interests.  If we want to be like Switzerland, then we need to act like Switzerland, but we can't, because we are brainwashed to believe that having a majority white people in control is racist, or a bad thing.  Everybody else can have a majority people controlled nation except the people who built Western Civilization. 

[SharonAnne]

GUN violence is a minor factor in the violence in America today. The FOCUS on gun violence is entirely about control. Register the guns. The government knows where the guns are. CONFISCATE the guns. Civilians are disarmed. Government can do any damn thing they want. Civilians have not POWER to do anything. Cancel elections, no problem, Civilians are disarmed and powerless.

It is all about control. Control of the populace.

[Hairy Chest]

GUN violence is a minor factor in the violence in America today. The FOCUS on gun violence is entirely about control. Register the guns. The government knows where the guns are. CONFISCATE the guns. Civilians are disarmed. Government can do any damn thing they want. Civilians have not POWER to do anything. Cancel elections, no problem, Civilians are disarmed and powerless.

It is all about control. Control of the populace.

If Switzerland had a demographic problem that lead to violence, including gun violence, then they should enact laws for emigrating those violent types back to their "native" lands.  By doing that, they would be removing the real source of the problem for "gun violence".  The aggressors are booted out.

[DDZ]

I know what you all mean when you use the term gun violence, but do you all know that the term gun violence is a term created by liberal and progressive pundits for the purpose of linking the idea in the public mind that guns are connected to crime and violence, and that guns and firearms, and crimes and violence are somehow equivalent.   
The phrase "gun violence" implies that, somehow, that guns themselves-inanimate objects-create and cause violence.
Words and phrases are purposely, and deliberately used to mold and shape public opinion, by those that use the media to control thoughts, and formation of opinion in society. Just as there was a concerted effort to change homosexuals into gays, to change abortion into a "womens right to choose" , to change foreign trespassers into illegal immigrants, then migrants, now just undocumented workers. Now the manipulators strive to change the perception of firearms in our society, and link them them to crime and violence. They could much more honestly be linked to safety, protection, and security.
There is no such thing as gun violence, or gun crime. There never has been and there never will be. There is violence committed with a gun, and there is crime committed with a gun, but no such thing as gun violence or gun crime.
You all can choose to use what terms you want, but its my opinion not a good idea to continue to use terms they the gun grabbers created to sway public opinion. The term gun violence now rolls off peoples lips, with no thought, and thats just what they intended to happen.       

[Mike in Virginia]

Unlikely but possible scenario:  We tell the truth about violence and race, and then we have to defend ourselves from a person not of our race.  He ends up dead.  During the investigation, the cops seize our computer or determine what we've posted by other means.  (I'm as "guilty" as anyone here about speaking about the truth of crime and violene.)  The statements could then be used against us in either a criminal or civil trial, causing a court or jury to consider if we are racist and whether that played a part in the killing.  Just a thought.   

[BUGEYE]

 

So why leave race out of the discussion?  Race is primarily the determining factor for gun violence.  First you need aggression.  What governs that?  Does biology play a part?  Of course.  Then there is culture (RAP) and add higher cranial capacity man's technology (weapons) and that equals trouble. 

The brain is like any other muscle, it must be exercised.  If all you do is sleep all day, stay out all night getting into meanness, and the only other thing you do is look in the mailbox for your welfare check, then your brain will become atrophied.
Look at how education is being dumbed down to accommodate certain ethnic groups.
I don't owe them a thing.   But I'm being forced with threat of prison to support them.

[nodlenor]

Jimster, you hit the nail right square on the head. The problem is not guns it is violence.

[SharonAnne]

I like it. gun safety. gun security. gun protection.