OK you armchair commandos...

[rio grande]

... before you even begin to talk about armed resistance, "cold, dead hands", etc. let's see if you have the courage to use non- violent means to oppose tyranny.


The use of arms is immoral unless all other means first prove useless.



Sure, use the traditional NRA lobbying methods if you want, but in addition here are another 198 methods of non-violent action, proven effective, which can be used right now.








http://www.aforcemorepowerful.org/resources/nonviolent/methods.php

[BUGEYE]

the most stupid of them all was the hunger strike.  obama and his boys would just laugh at anyone doing that crazy stuff.  actually I got a good laugh out of it.  won't work.

[magooch]

I would favor a mass armed march on Washington D.C.  Surely there are at least 10 million, or so gun owners who could and would participate if the NRA, or other groups would call for such a demonstration.

[BUGEYE]

I would favor a mass armed march on Washington D.C.  Surely there are at least 10 million, or so gun owners who could and would participate if the NRA, or other groups would call for such a demonstration.

If that happens, I'll be there if I have to sleep in the back of my truck.

[magooch]

I would favor a mass armed march on Washington D.C.  Surely there are at least 10 million, or so gun owners who could and would participate if the NRA, or other groups would call for such a demonstration.

On second thought (prompted by another poster), let's make that a mass march armed with signs.  However, I might not rule out CC.

[rio grande]

the most stupid of them all was the hunger strike.  obama and his boys would just laugh at anyone doing that crazy stuff.  actually I got a good laugh out of it.  won't work.

True. But out of 198 methods there are some impractical ones. And there are some good ones.

[DDZ]

The large majority of the things to do would not work and they don't work after the communists have been voted into office. I just scanned the list, but I did not see voting listed. Voting is the one and most important thing we the people can do to change the way things are, but voting has not been working out to well for us. Government has continued to get bigger, spend more of our money, take more of our freedoms from us, and become more involved in everything we do. After the voting is over, and we elect what we have been electing. There just ain't much you are going to change. When we elect a socialist, marxist, communist, progressive, that is what they are. They don't all of a sudden become a Constitutionalist conservative, because we demand it. To get something different you have to do it at the voting booth.
If you want to do something, work on changing peoples minds about who they vote for. Trying to change the outcome of things, after the fox is in the hen house usually don't work to well. 

[rio grande]

I would favor a mass armed march on Washington D.C.  Surely there are at least 10 million, or so gun owners who could and would participate if the NRA, or other groups would call for such a demonstration.

On second thought (prompted by another poster), let's make that a mass march armed with signs.  However, I might not rule out CC.

The mass March is good, but a lot of us could not make it to DC.
Many local marches, or rallies?


I like the general strike...for one day...and if that does not get their attention then two days or more.
It' s time the NRA began to think outside the box.
Act now, not later.

[rio grande]

The large majority of the things to do would not work and they don't work after the communists have been voted into office. I just scanned the list, but I did not see voting listed. Voting is the one and most important thing we the people can do to change the way things are, but voting has not been working out to well for us. Government has continued to get bigger, spend more of our money, take more of our freedoms from us, and become more involved in everything we do. After the voting is over, and we elect what we have been electing. There just ain't much you are going to change. When we elect a socialist, marxist, communist, progressive, that is what they are. They don't all of a sudden become a Constitutionalist conservative, because we demand it. To get something different you have to do it at the voting booth.
If you want to do something, work on changing peoples minds about who they vote for. Trying to change the outcome of things, after the fox is in the hen house usually don't work to well.

Voting of course, that' s a given. But we can' t wait 4 years. 
Governments can and will be influenced by mass protest.

We have 4 million NRA members and many millions of other supporters.
We must put the Obama regime on the defensive.
All the talk of violence can and will be used against us to sway public opinion.

[JonnyReb]

YES! Been waiting for a march since clinton was insanely jealous of the farmers on their tractors and the "million man" folks. Those were people who'd had enough, felt ignored and REFUSED TO BE. They non violently let the politicians and the Nation know their greivence. No reason 5-10 million U.S gun owners..or triple that amount, couldn't do the same, on a local or national level. Looks like the NRA needs to start spearheading this, if our rights begin to errode dangerously. I'm in, and I'll bring a bunch with me.   J

  Edit:  for the first time too, white, black, red, yellow and muddy should come together on this, we ALL, as law abiding citizens value our right to protect life and liberty as we see fit and for once, it would be nice to see masses come together on this.  J

[DDZ]

Rio, 4 million NRA members. Where were they last November when the Obama regime got elected? You might be surprised by the number of gun owners, and NRA members that voted for Obama.  Where were the other supporters last November?

[rio grande]

Rio, 4 million NRA members. Where were they last November when the Obama regime got elected? You might be surprised by the number of gun owners, and NRA members that voted for Obama.  Where were the other supporters last November?

Doesn't matter now. All of us have made mistakes.
Even someone who voted for Obama - they can wake up eventually.
Especially as the President becomes more and more so obviously despotic.


What to do now is the issue.


Don' t talk about burying your guns or what you will do when uniformed thugs kick in your door.
March, Strike, Boycott now.
Legal, non- violent action.

[nw_hunter]

Rio, 4 million NRA members. Where were they last November when the Obama regime got elected? You might be surprised by the number of gun owners, and NRA members that voted for Obama.  Where were the other supporters last November?

I wouldn't be surprised! I know of two personally that voted for Obama, that are registered Republicans and lifetime members of the NRA. Even though they hated his stance on the Second A, they thought we would overall be better off with him I asked them if they agreed with RP or any other choice, and they replied..............YES,but (They) are not electable.


"There Folks" is the problem.Easy to understand why some have just thrown up their hands and decided not to vote at all. It really doesn't make a difference, if you vote for a Liberal Democrat, or a Liberal Republican.The results will be the same (BET ON IT)

[Dand]

1) start by boycotting these violent movies and video games and their sponsors. ESPECIALLY their sponsors and stores that sell the junk.  Look how Tarantino is screeching when his garbage is put under scrutiny. Maybe people should picket some of these theaters that are showing his movies or the 3D Chainsaw Massacre movie - just saw a review of that awful thing.


2) time to come together regardless of how one voted.  I supported my Republican gov in the election but I've sent him some very strong letters when he's done stuff I oppose. Not a time to criticize past actions or race.  If they're with us on the important stuff -welcome them. Of course be alert to disruption or plants.


3) boycott sponsors of media that has become propaganda outlet instead of a news outlet. Piers Morgan - call his sponsors.




4) oh my wife read this somewhere: For all those folks who poo poo that violent shows and games don't incite gun abuse and other bad behavior, then why is there a multibillion dollar advertising industry and how can the superbowl get millions for a minute long advertisement? Why do we have public safety ads on TV and radio?

[guzzijohn]

Quote from Rio grande:
"The mass March is good, but a lot of us could not make it to DC."


LOL, Some here talking about armed resistance, take from my cold dead hands, etc. but can't find the means to join a march in DC?
GuzziJohn

[BIG Dog454]

March to the border of Washington DC, having your firearm strapped to you in plain sight.  Make arrangements with the state of Virginia to have their state police and other law enforcement officers there to keep it orderly.  Don't enter DC, just go to the border with permission.  Maybe at a couple of different routes.
BD

[powderman]

March to the border of Washington DC, having your firearm strapped to you in plain sight.  Make arrangements with the state of Virginia to have their state police and other law enforcement officers there to keep it orderly.  Don't enter DC, just go to the border with permission.  Maybe at a couple of different routes.
BD

 
THat sounds reasonable to me and would have a definite visual impact, if the VA state police would cooperate. Obummer probly wouldn't see it from the golf course in Hawaii though. POWDERMAN. 

[rio grande]

Quote from Rio grande:
"The mass March is good, but a lot of us could not make it to DC."


LOL, Some here talking about armed resistance, take from my cold dead hands, etc. but can't find the means to join a march in DC?
GuzziJohn

That is a valid criticism. I would not miss a march in DC for the world. It would be historic. But just
saying, what might be most practical.

[SHOOTALL]

Rio, 4 million NRA members. Where were they last November when the Obama regime got elected? You might be surprised by the number of gun owners, and NRA members that voted for Obama.  Where were the other supporters last November?

share your numbers and where you got them please .

[garbhead]

NRA itself estimates 3-4 million members with about 2 million active. In a country of 311 Million, that's a small percentage....No other 1% group has as much power if you don't count the ultra-rich.  I have been a NRA member for 35+ years, but I still don't think 100% of the way they might want me to think.

[SHOOTALL]

NRA itself estimates 3-4 million members with about 2 million active. In a country of 311 Million, that's a small percentage....No other 1% group has as much power if you don't count the ultra-rich.  I have been a NRA member for 35+ years, but I still don't think 100% of the way they might want me to think.

I also have been a member since 1978 but that dosen't show where the NRA members voted for Obama . In all reality it would seem that he won't find them as the vote is secret .

[DDZ]

Rio, 4 million NRA members. Where were they last November when the Obama regime got elected? You might be surprised by the number of gun owners, and NRA members that voted for Obama.  Where were the other supporters last November?

share your numbers and where you got them please .

I don't believe I mentioned any number amounts. My point was that just because someone is an NRA member or gun owner doesn't mean they voted for someone other than Obama. For one I'd bet that every gun owner or every NRA member even voted, and shame on those that didn't. Then I believe that some NRA members voted for Obama, just like gun owners did. I did not see any numbers to support this, its just my opinion.
Its no different than thinking all Christians would vote for someone other than Obama, but they don't. I know in the first election Catholics went out in force to get Obama elected, and I don't believe its a whole lot different, with people that owns a firearm. Many people just look at the goodies that Obama has promised, and feel pretty comfortable that they will get to keep their 30-06 and their 870. Just because someone owns a gun or is an NRA member does not automatically put them in the conservative voting column.     
 

[SHOOTALL]

You noted numbers like it was alot . Figured you had an inside scoop. 
You might be correct its like porn if christians didn't buy it it wouldn't be so big a deal from a money stand point.