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http://www.whas11.com/home/173890801.html   print logo  Scouts track gays in 'perversion files'       by SUSANNAH FRAME / KING 5 News  WHAS11.com Posted on October 12, 2012 at 11:07 AM      Gallery  See all 5 photos »  For years the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) hid the fact they kept detailed records of scoutmasters and other volunteers who were suspected of molesting children. The organization says the files, known as the "perversion files" and number in the thousands, were compiled to make sure pedophiles were kicked out and stayed out of Scouting. Now an analysis of files obtained by the KING 5 Investigators shows top officials in the youth organization were keeping files on suspected gay Scout leaders as well.
 
Gay Eagle Scout and former troop leader Joe Hopkins of Seattle is outraged and hurt upon seeing some of the files for himself.
"It's unbelievable to actually see the proof that they've been doing this. It's really sad," said Hopkins. "I loved being a Boy Scout. I totally immersed myself in the program. I think (they) gave me the fundamental values of a moral life. And now to have them turn around and say, you're automatically bad. It appalls me."
 
"Perversion Files"
The "perversion files", also known as the "ineligible volunteer files" came to light through a handful of civil court cases against the BSA, including some claims in Seattle. Lawyers representing alleged abuse victims say the collection of files proves that top Scouting officials knew by the 1960's that pedophiles were gaining access to victims through Scouting, yet they failed to institute policies to protect their young, vulnerable Scouts until the 1980's.
The KING 5 Investigators are the first journalists in the country to reveal that within the secret files on suspected molesters are files on leaders who are gay. According to the Director of Communications for BSA, Deron Smith, the records exist to help carry out the organization's long standing policy of excluding gay people from Scouting.
 

Boy Scout exclusion policy
"Not all of the files pertain to sexual abuse.  The Ineligible Volunteer Files are essentially a “list” of people who do not meet BSA’s standards because of various types of alleged or proven inappropriate conduct either inside or outside Scouting, including – but not limited to - theft, substance abuse, immoral conduct, criminal convictions, or known or suspected child abuse," said Smith.

  This summer a committee formed by the Boy Scouts organization reaffirmed the group's policy of barring openly gay boys from membership and gay or lesbian adults from leadership positions or volunteering on any level. The official policy reads: "While the Boy Scouts of America does not proactively inquire about the sexual orientation of employees, volunteers or members, we do not grant membership to individuals who are open or avowed homosexuals or who engage in behavior that would become a distraction to the mission o the B.S.A."
The 11-member committee spent two years conducting a secret internal review of the policy. They concluded the exclusion policy "reflects the beliefs and perspectives" of the organization.
 
No one knew Joe Hopkins was gay during his years participating in Scouting, so he doesn't believe a file exists on him. But he feels betrayed by the very organization he believes helped him become the good person he is today.
"It's part of my Scout training that I have to speak up for something that's wrong. The Scouts taught me if it's wrong to speak out," said Hopkins. "Part of Scouting is tolerance and I don't think that they're teaching tolerance with their current policy. And basically saying people who are gay or lesbian are second class citizens. We're citizens just like the rest of America."
Of the 50 secret files obtained by KING 5, 48 contain records about suspected child molestation. The other two include documents only related to sexual orientation.
 
Ellensburg Case
One file is about a scoutmaster form Ellensburg who was ousted from Scouting in 1974 after the organization had collected evidence he was gay. A memorandum from a Scout Executive in Yakima to the organization's Registration and Subscription Executive at BSA headquarters in Texas explains they'd "become aware of a suspected moral problem" with (the Scout leader). The Yakima executive received information that the man had previously been discharged as a Scouting camp counselor "on suspicion of homosexuality." The Scouts continued to build their case in the file by obtaining "proof" of their suspicion. The record is a four page letter handwritten by the scoutmaster where he confides to a friend, "Yes, I am gay (homosexual)". It's unclear from the file how BSA obtained the letter. The following month BSA leaders in Texas completed their file with a lifetime ban on the scoutmaster. Their "Confidential Record Sheet" lists one reason for the move: "homosexuality".
 
Seattle Case
In 1990 a Chapter Chief from Seattle was removed from the Scouting program for being gay. The Scouts launched an investigation and created a fileon the man after a parent wrote to complain the leader was "effeminate". The parent was concerned the Chapter Chief was "exerting influence over impressionable boys". The Scout Executive of the Chief Seattle Council, Dean Lollar, requested written proof of the man's sexual orientation from a Chapter adviser who had befriended the suspected gay leader. The friend documented a conversation with the Chapter Chief in which he stated "I am gay. In no way have I or will I ever force myself on any Scouts or Scouters that I work with. The Boy Scouts have done so many wonderful things for me and have given me purpose and goals to work for. I couldn't think of ever doing something the Boy Scouts would be upset with."
The Scouts were upset. They removed the man from the organization a month after receiving the written account of his admission. Scout Executive Lollar sent a letter announcing their decision to the Chapter Chief:
 
"After careful review, we have decided that your registration with the Boy Scouts of America should be denied. We are therefore compelled to request that you sever any relations that you may have with the Boy Scouts of America. A refund of your registration fee is enclosed. You should understand that BSA membership registration is a privilege and is not automatically granted to everyone who applies. We reserve the right to refuse registration whenever there is a concern that an individual may not meet the high standards of membership which the BSA seeks to provide for American youth."
Hopkins said he'd heard rumors the Scouts kept lists of gay members, but he was shocked to see written proof.
 
"For a private organization to be conducting witch hunts is an abomination," said Hopkins."I think it's my responsibility as an adult and a gay man to say that this policy is absurd and wrong and the Boy Scouts need to reconsider it. The only way that they're going to reconsider is to have public pressure occur."
 
Pressure to change policy
BSA has been under renewed pressure to change their exclusion policy this month after a teenager from the San Francisco area was denied his Eagle Scout badge because he is gay. His scoutmaster learned of the boy's sexual orientation and ruled he would be denied the top honor, even though the 17-year-old had earned all the badges needed and recently completed his Eagle Scout final project. The project is a "Tolerance Wall" made of anti-bullying messages. The teen's mother created a web page, urging people to support her son and his dream of becoming an Eagle Scout. As of Thursday 390,295 people had signed the online petition in support of the gay Scout.
 
 
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Never understood why they could have this open public policy for all these years and people act surprised when it all of the sudden affects them.
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Never understood why they could have this open public policy for all these years and people act surprised when it all of the sudden affects them.

 
OLD FART. Me either, thank a liberal. I'm glad to see that the BSA takes the time and research to protect our scouts. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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OLD FART. Me either, thank a liberal. I'm glad to see that the BSA takes the time and research to protect our scouts. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Scouts have paid a price for it.  Leftist vermin have blocked scout access to many public facilities because BSA doesn't require a NAMBLA representative on every troop committee.
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Would you let a gay man go camping with your 13 yr old and his fellow scouts. I sure as hell hope not. To think that would be okay is strange logic that I would never agree with or tolerate. Good for the BSA.
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Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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I believe the word REVERANT is the key word in the scout oath that the funnybunnies can't seem to agree with.
A scout is Trustworthy, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and REVERANT, if memory serves me correctly. That oath has stuck with me since I was a kid. Let the gays, and their supporters here start their own group, just leave decent folks alone. POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
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I believe the word REVERANT...
'REVERANT'?
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...is the key word in the scout oath that the funnybunnies can't seem to agree with.
(shrug) who knows if they agree... they probably don't know what it means.
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A scout is Trustworthy, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and REVERANT, if memory serves me correctly.
I'm sure there are gays - scouts & otherwise - who are all those things, with the possible exception of 'REVERANT'

Funny Bunnies!

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Question for the homophobic mensa members.
You're not going to believe this but, we have "GAY" teachers in our school district! Everyone knows it! Our children spend hours with them every school day! They accompany our kids on over night school trips! There is no evidence of any "RECRUITING" activities.
They are some of our best teachers and we love them!
Does this mean we're "GAY" also?

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Question for the homophobic mensa members.
two-blocked is talking about the REVERANT...
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Does this mean we're "GAY" also?
I think it means you're not REVERANT... .
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Reverant- Is that how Scooby-Doo says "ever-rant" (which you see a lot of here:)

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Question for the homophobic mensa members.
You're not going to believe this but, we have "GAY" teachers in our school district! .
 and we love them!
Does this mean we're "GAY" also?
YEP.
I don't know about the "we" in your statement ,, but you are gay arn't you?
 

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The point is that they are a private organization that has rules/policies.
Don't like them, don't join.
Simple as that.
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HEH. I forgot loyal and helpful.
 2 blocked. In my opinion homosexuals should never, EVER be allowed to raise children or be in authority over them,  Scout leaders, teachers, etc. If you knowingly allow homosexuals to teach your children, and they know it,  then you are legitimizing and approving of their deviate behaviour. You are telling your children that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle instead of an abomination like the Bible says it is. Your kids, not mine. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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The Boy Scouts, like any organization that deals with kids is going to be a magnet for pedophiles. Being a private organization they have every right to police themselves as they see fit.
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The Boy Scouts, like any organization that deals with kids is going to be a magnet for pedophiles. Being a private organization they have every right to police themselves as they see fit.

 
DBLBASS. Agreed Sir, and they should. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
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. Your kids, not mine. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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. Your kids, not mine. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Correct, and don't forget it, thank you

 
2 blocked. I truly believe that on judgement day that we all will have to answer for what good, or bad we have taught our children because we are responsible to raise them with proper morals and values. If we raise them with proper morals and values and they choose the wrong path then they alone will be responsible for their actions. If we do not then I believe that we will share in their sins and punishment. Just my opinion. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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. Your kids, not mine. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Correct, and don't forget it, thank you

 
2 blocked. I truly believe that on judgement day that we all will have to answer for what good, or bad we have taught our children because we are responsible to raise them with proper morals and values. If we raise them with proper morals and values and they choose the wrong path then they alone will be responsible for their actions. If we do not then I believe that we will share in their sins and punishment. Just my opinion. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

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2 blocked. I see you did not read the 1st CH of Romans verses 26-29, or any of the other references where God makes it crystal clear his views on these perverts. Your Mathew 7:15 warns of false prophets which in modern times would be defined as liberals and all others without God in their lives. Are you saying that God is now approving of this perversion?? Not true. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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I'm saying neither you nor I are are the final word on what the Bible says. Let each choose his own path.
As far as Matthew 7, read your own posts brother, thousands about thistles and thorns, and we know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:16

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2 blocked. Please reference some scripture to where God says he changed his mind and now approves of what he has always referred to as abominations. God hasn't changed his mind, only man has. His word is as true today as it was thousands of years ago. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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I have NEVER had ANY homosexuals do anything to harm me or my family in any manner. I CAN NOT  say that about heterosexuals. How about the rest of you ?- and be honest.
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I have NEVER had ANY homosexuals do anything to harm me or my family in any manner. I CAN NOT  say that about heterosexuals. How about the rest of you ?- and be honest.

I never had a child molestor harm me or any of my family either.
So should we welcome child molestors in into our society?

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Kimber. The harm is not always noticeable to the eye, it can also affect the mind. If you treat them as normal and acceptable then you are teaching your children that they are acceptable to God, and in their present condition they are not. There are not now, never have been, never will be any PRACTICING, UNREPENTENT homosexuals in Heaven. If they stop the deviate behaviour and repent of their sins then they are no different than anyone else and will have a Heavenly home to go to the same as all of us. I will list some scripture references below, they are NOT aimed at you, just for information to others who might not understand. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
 
1st Corinthians Ch 6 verse 9
Romans 1st ch, verses 26-29
Leviticus ch 18, vs 22 and ch 20 vs 13
Ephesians Ch 5 vs 12
Deuteronomy ch 22 vs 5 and ch 23 vs 17& 18.
1st  Kings ch 22 vs 46 and ch 14 vs 24 + ch 15 vs 12
1st Timothy ch1 vs 8-11
Jude ch 7
 
If folks take the time to look these up there can be no misintrerpretation as to what God is saying. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
2nd Kings ch 23 vs 7
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Kimber. The harm is not always noticeable to the eye, it can also affect the mind. If you treat them as normal and acceptable then you are teaching your children that they are acceptable to God, and in their present condition they are not. There are not now, never have been, never will be any PRACTICING, UNREPENTENT homosexuals in Heaven. If they stop the deviate behaviour and repent of their sins then they are no different than anyone else and will have a Heavenly home to go to the same as all of us. I will list some scripture references below, they are NOT aimed at you, just for information to others who might not understand. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
 
1st Corinthians Ch 6 verse 9
Romans 1st ch, verses 26-29
Leviticus ch 18, vs 22 and ch 20 vs 13
Ephesians Ch 5 vs 12
Deuteronomy ch 22 vs 5 and ch 23 vs 17& 18.
1st  Kings ch 22 vs 46 and ch 14 vs 24 + ch 15 vs 12
1st Timothy ch1 vs 8-11
Jude ch 7
 
If folks take the time to look these up there can be no misintrerpretation as to what God is saying. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
2nd Kings ch 23 vs 7
So what is you answer for having homosexuals in our society?
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I have NEVER had ANY homosexuals do anything to harm me or my family in any manner. I CAN NOT  say that about heterosexuals. How about the rest of you ?- and be honest.
       There's at least two problems with your "logic".  First of all, unless a person that caused you any harm was openly homosexual, you do not KNOW your statement to be true.  Secondly, since the homosexuals only make up about 1% to 5% of the population (depending on who's numbers you believe), of COURSE the odds being harmed by them are going to be less.
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I have NEVER had ANY homosexuals do anything to harm me or my family in any manner. I CAN NOT  say that about heterosexuals. How about the rest of you ?- and be honest.
       There's at least two problems with your "logic".  First of all, unless a person that caused you any harm was openly homosexual, you do not KNOW your statement to be true. Secondly, since the homosexuals only make up about 1% to 5% of the population (depending on who's numbers you believe), of COURSE the odds being harmed by them are going to be less.
Exactly-I hope those who think they are the cause of the end of us ,see your percentages.
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Exactly-I hope those who think they are the cause of the end of us ,see your percentages.

 
 
 
Again, some strained logic.  Murderers make up a very small percentage of society, but commit ALL of the murders.
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Exactly-I hope those who think they are the cause of the end of us ,see your percentages.

 
 
 
Again, some strained logic.  Murderers make up a very small percentage of society, but commit ALL of the murders.
I think we are interpreting the statements differently
"In the final analysis, it is between you and God.  It was never between you and them anyway."__Mother Theresa
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Not everyone will understand your journey. That"s fine. It's not their journey to make sense of. It's yours.
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Hawkeye: My father warned me about you...
Chingachgook, he warned me about people like you. He said "Do not try to understand them".
 "do not try to make them understand you. That is because they are a breed apart and make no sense".
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