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22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« on: September 19, 2012, 03:24:15 AM »
I am just about done wrapping up my 7x57 mauser project, got it sand blasted last night. I am also putting finishing touches on my 4 current Handi projects as well, and should have those done by end of year. So, I've been giving a lot of thought on how to best get a handi to 8mm Mauser. I think reboring and rechambering a 22-250 will work and require the least amount of extractor/ejector work as the cartridge bases are almost identicle. The chamber should clean up as well. Anyone see an issue here? Anyone know of a shop that will rebore/rechamber in .323? I have pretty much decided to go the rebore route. I also have a an idea on the stock configuration, but will need to think that one through some more before committing.
 
I will not have the donor barreled action until sometime next year. I got my eye on one at a local pawn. I want to get my other irons out of the fire first. Once that has happened I am going full bore into this project, and should get it done by the end of 2013.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 05:58:50 AM »
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 07:44:11 AM »
I see in your tag line that you list out what you have.  Nice selection.  How did you come up with a x54r?  I like that caliber, my sone & I would like to do one.
 
On the other hand, I see no 45-70 on your list.  How can this be?  All true Handi-holics must have one, it's required by law you know.  With all the cool calibers you list it'd be darn hard to revoke your HH card, but still . . .
 
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 07:51:56 AM »
Isn't an 8x57 already a 8mm Mauser?
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 08:13:26 AM »
Ammoguide lists two 8mm Mausers, the 8x57 JS which has the same rim size as the 22-250, and the 8x57 JRS(rimmed) which appears to have the same case with a rim.

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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 08:29:29 AM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on September 19, 2012, 08:13:26 AM
Ammoguide lists two 8mm Mausers, the 8mmJS which has the same rim size as the 22-250, and the 8mmJRS(rimmed) which appears to have the same case with a rim.

Tim

I just read an article about those the rimmed is still used in single shots , double guns and drillings .It also noted how the 8mm was coppied by the USA for the 3006 . 
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 09:50:39 AM »
Quote from: Catshooter45 on September 19, 2012, 07:44:11 AM
I see in your tag line that you list out what you have.  Nice selection.  How did you come up with a x54r?  I like that caliber, my sone & I would like to do one.
 
On the other hand, I see no 45-70 on your list.  How can this be?  All true Handi-holics must have one, it's required by law you know.  With all the cool calibers you list it'd be darn hard to revoke your HH card, but still . . .
 
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I listed them by caliber in my tag lin cause they are all not Handi's... Ohhhh, please don't hate me,  :P  but I still loves my mauser bolt actions and their decendents.  :D  I loves the Handi's just as much.  ;D  In fact as part of my long term (read 10 year plan) for every caliber I have in a bolt action (22lr, 22 wmr, 7x57, 8x57, 303 Brit, 7.62x54R, and 30-06) I wants a Handi single shot in that caliber to compliment my bolt gun or vice versa, since they all get loved equally. Why, just cause I can and for no other reason.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 09:53:14 AM »
Quote from: Qaz on September 19, 2012, 07:51:56 AM
Isn't an 8x57 already a 8mm Mauser?

Yup one in the same, just a different way to identify the cartridge.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 09:55:17 AM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on September 19, 2012, 05:58:50 AM
Should work fine, Wayne does 8mm rebores.

Tim

http://www.oregunsmithingllc.com/Relining-Reboring-MuzzleBrake.html

I just e-mailed them to get an idea of what they will charge so I can plan my budget.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 11:37:39 AM »
I generally have the best luck to catch Wayne around lunch time(pacific time) instead of waiting for a return email.  ;)

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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2012, 01:09:46 AM »
BS,
 The 8MM is a favorite of mine as well, ever since My grandfather put on in my hands as my first "deer" rifle. ;) a couple years after I got it I decided I could make it better... Pulled off the peep sites and tall front ivory bead. Then the Bishop stock went... Then I pruned and crowned the barrel at 19". The gun wears a BC kevlar syn stock, a 3x9 VX II Leupy in super lo Burris rings and bases. (Redfield style)  :-[ :-\ :-[ Gramp's has been gone for years now, I kinda wish it was exactly the way it was when he gave it to me. BUT I have a bit of salvation as he left me his Springfield 30-06 he sporterized back in the late 40's and early 50's. That one is staying exactly as he built it, you can bet your eye teeth on that statement!  :) ;) ;D

Even in spite of me,  ::) it shoots very well with a 170 & 175g bullet moved by a max loading of IMR4064 powder.



The 8MM in a Handi would be a melding of two of my favorites! For me, the option of a rimmed case makes it even more attractive! Thank you for finding and commenting on it Timmy!!  ;)

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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2012, 08:28:17 AM »
OK folks, It's official. I put half down on the the 22-250 that I am going to use as a donor. It has a later model S/N prefix and is not a heavy barrel. It currently wears a gray laminate stock. I will have it in my ownership shortly after Christmas.
 
I am still toying with making my own stock from scratch. If I decide to go that route it will be a full length stock, it not I may chop the laminate stock and add a nice exotic wood for a end and grip cap, a light mahogany or maple burl perhaps. Might even try some inlay work. I plan on sending it out for rebore over the summer and finish it up by fall of next year. It should one down and 4 more to go. I am probably going to do the 7.62x54R rechamber on a 30-30 barrel after this one is done. That is a 2014 project.
 
Oh and I might make it a 6.5x55 Mauser, I know I am waffling here, but I don't have a beautiful Swede in my life... I have some time to think on it.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 08:37:47 AM »
I've got a Swede in my life. A Husky action with a surplus military barrel. Not the best looking piece however it SHOOTS !!
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 05:40:47 AM »
Quote from: 8uck5nort on November 20, 2012, 08:28:17 AM
OK folks, It's official. I put half down on the 22-250 that I am going to use as a donor.
 
I am still toying with making my own stock from scratch. If I decide to go that route it will be a "full length stock"...
Hey 8uck5snort! I am contemplating a Handi 8X57 JS also... and was happy when Tim directed me to your thread. Have you costed out the rebore/rechamber on the .22/250 yet??? I was torn between doing a dedicated Handi in 8X57 and doing a barrel insert using a Stoeger Coach Gun 20 gauge... with the Coach Gun I could do a combo 7X57/8X57. But that is kind of goofy, would likely incur accuracy issues (vastly different POI's from two calibers in two seperate bores). Might also still look for a 700 Classic in 8mm Mauser... I also appear to be waffling... talking it out helps me process my priorities!  ;)   ;D
P.S - an 8X57 is begging for a classic walnut stock, with as much character in it as you can afford... by "full length stock" do you mean a Mannlicher style? That is exactly what I would do with it... I am putting the finishing touches on my 7mm-08 Walnut Mannlicher now.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 09:58:20 AM »
Cool HoytCannon.
Just so happens I sold off my sportered MN91/30 today and scrounged up the money to pay off the donor 22-250 and will be contacting the rebore/rechamber guy today to finalize the cost, shipping, etc... I still have to get the perfect scope, I am looking at a Nikon 1x4x20 with German #4, but have not decided yet. Mueller makes an illuminated #4 reticle as well, but again just can't decide where I want to go with the scope side of this project yet.
As for a stock, the 22-250 has a really nice Gray laminate MC stock. I may just order a Gray full length forened and use a spare military barrel band as the muzzle cap. Not sure. I had considered ordering a WW1 mauser military take off stock from Numrich and chop that up for my stock. Give it a military look. I willwait and see how my Mach 2 mauser stock conversion goes before I wail on another innocent stock. In addtion, my Dad is cleaning out an old barn that, the guy who owned it several years ago, had a bunch of walnut trees cut down and just stuffed the rough sawed lumber up in the rafters. I might try to whittle one from scratch if I can find a nice candidate board. Oh, so many options.
I decided to go with the rebore and rechamber route because the barrel will already be stressed relieved and should already be properly mated to the reciever. We will see if I'm right or not on that account.
I'll post pics of progress as I can.
 
 
 
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2012, 10:06:05 AM »
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2012, 10:11:31 AM »
Here's the Mueller Multi-shot 2-7X32mm illuminated on my .30/30 Sterling thumbhole. Second pic is the 3-9x40 Sport Dot with German #4 on my 7.62X39mm.
 

 
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2012, 10:12:26 AM »
Just talked with Wayne and the total estimated cost with shipping should be around 350.00. That includes the rebore and rechamber. Test firing and engraving the new cartridge on the barrel. I am shipping it off Monday.
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2012, 10:14:48 AM »
Any caveats on the Mueller illuminated #4 German scope. Likes, dislikes?
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Re: 22-250 to 8mm Mauser rebore. Part of the 5 year plan.
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2012, 10:29:34 AM »
I know mannlicher means different things to some, but the mannlicher style, well to me anyway, is in the buttstock. Genlty sloping cheek rest like you see in the newer Zastava mauser bolt action rifles. Like the M70 shown here:
http://www.zastava-arms.co.rs/cms/index.php?id=230
You can have a full length forend with Monte Carlo, Mannlicher, or whatever. Either way I love the full length stocks regardless of the butt style. I really like the looks of a full length stock with a thumbhole buttstock.  :D  Just sayin.
As for the double barrel rifle. Holy Cow! would that knock the bejebbers out of ya. I think a tad impracticle for the reason you stated, but it would be a blast to shoot at least once.
I am actually building this rifle to go boar hunting in Texas at my kid brother place. Ond of these days I'll get down there and this is one that will make the trip. I'll have my German BDC mauser as a back up rifle.
 
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