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Dems reveal platform backing gay marriage, abortion rights  Published September 04, 2012
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  •    Sept. 3, 2012: Obama campaign logo is hanging from the ceiling of Time Warner Cable Arena at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C. (AP)
  WASHINGTON –  Democrats unveiled a party platform at their national convention Monday that echoes President Obama's call for higher taxes on wealthier Americans while backing same-sex marriage and abortion rights.
 
Delegates will vote Tuesday to adopt the platform that reflects the president's argument that his work is unfinished and he deserves another four years to complete the job.
"Today, our economy is growing again, Al Qaeda is weaker than at any point since 9/11, and our manufacturing sector is growing for the first time in more than a decade. But there is more we need to do, and so we come together again to continue what we started," the platform said.
 
The document is a sharp contrast from the Republican blueprint that the GOP adopted at its convention last week. The Republican plan would ban abortion and gay marriage, repeal Obama's health care overhaul law and shift Medicare into a voucher-style program.
Democrats acknowledged that divergent views.
"This election is not simply a choice between two candidates or two political parties, but between two fundamentally different paths for our country and our families," the Democrats said.
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TAXES
The Democratic platform calls for extending the middle-class tax cuts for the 98 percent of American families who make less than $250,000 a year, and makes a promise not to raise taxes on them. The platform claims a typical family has saved $3,600 during Obama's first term. "Now he's fighting to stop middle-class families and those aspiring to join the middle class from seeing their taxes go up and to extend key tax relief for working families and those paying for college, while asking the wealthiest and corporations to pay their fair share," the platform says.
 
The Republican platform would extend the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, pending reform of the tax code. It also says the party would try to eliminate taxes on interest, dividends and capital gains altogether for lower- and middle-income taxpayers. It also would work to repeal the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax.
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ABORTION
The Democratic platform states that it "unequivocally" supports Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal, and "supports a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay."
The platform states: "Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman, her family, her doctor and her clergy; there is no place for politicians or government to get in the way."
The Republican Party platform bans abortion in all cases, even rape, incest and when the life of the mother is endangered. Republicans say "the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed." It opposes using public revenues to promote or perform abortion or to fund organizations that perform or advocate abortions.
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GAY MARRIAGE
The Democratic platform supports the movement to get equal treatment under the law for same-sex couples.
The platform says: "We also support the freedom of churches and religious entities to decide how to administer marriage as a religious sacrament without government interference." The platform opposes "federal and state constitutional amendments and other attempts to deny equal protection under the law" to same-sex couples.
 
The Republican Party platform affirms the rights of states and the federal government not to recognize same-sex marriage. It backs a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman.
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IMMIGRATION
The platform states that "Democrats are strongly committed to enacting comprehensive immigration reform." Immigration overhaul would include bringing "undocumented immigrants out of the shadows," requiring illegal immigrants "to get right with the law, learn English and pay taxes" to get on a path toward citizenship. It also calls for a visa system that meets the country's "economic needs, keeps families together and enforces the law." It acknowledges that administrative fixes are not permanent. "Only Congress can provide a permanent, comprehensive solution."
 
The Republican platform opposes "any form of amnesty" for those who intentionally violate the immigration laws, demands a halt to Justice Department lawsuits against states that have enacted tough immigration measures, would deny federal funding to universities that provide in-state tuition to illegal immigrants and advocates making English the official national language.
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MEDICARE
Democrats say the new health care law makes Medicare stronger by adding new benefits, fighting fraud and improving care for patients. It notes that nearly 50 million older Americans and those with disabilities rely on Medicare. Over 10 years, the law will save the average Medicare beneficiary $4,200, the platform says. "Democrats adamantly oppose any efforts to privatize or voucherize Medicare," the platform says.
 
The GOP platform pledges to move Medicare away from "the current unsustainable defined-benefit entitlement model to a fiscally sound defined-contribution model." It supports a Medicare transition to a premium-support model with an income-adjusted contribution toward a health plan of the enrollee's choice.
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CAMPAIGN FINANCE
The Democratic platform criticizes the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, which lifted restrictions on independent political expenditures by corporations and unions, and calls for "immediate action to curb the influence of lobbyists and special interests on our political institutions" -- with a constitutional amendment, if necessary, in the cause of campaign finance reform.
 
"We support requiring groups trying to influence elections to reveal their donors so the public will know who's funding the political ads it sees," the platform says.
The Republican platform supports the Citizens United decision as a free speech issue.
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HEALTH CARE
The platform pledges to continue building on the new health care law. It says accessible, affordable, high-quality health care is part of the American promise, that Americans should have the security that comes with good health care, and that no one should go broke because they get sick. "No law is perfect and Democrats stand willing to work with anyone to improve the law where necessary, but we are committed to moving forward," the platform says.
 
The GOP platform says that a Republican president on his first day in office would use his waiver authority to halt progress in carrying out the health care act. It calls for a Republican plan based on improving health care quality and lowering costs and a system that promotes the free market and gives consumers more choice.
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DEFENSE
The platform says Democrats have responsibly ended the war in Iraq, put the Al Qaeda terrorist organization on the path to defeat with the killing of Usama bin Laden and reversed the Taliban's momentum to set the stage for the drawdown of U.S. forces in Afghanistan.
"As a consequence of the president's decisions and the brave work of our military and intelligence professionals, bin Laden can no longer threaten the United States and Al Qaeda's senior leadership has been devastated, rendering the group far less capable than it was four years ago," the platform said. "The Al Qaeda core in Afghanistan and Pakistan has never been weaker."
 
Democrats back further reductions in the nuclear weapons stockpile, building on the hard-fought U.S.-Russia treaty that Obama got through the Senate in December 2010. Democrats also say they have an "unshakable commitment to Israel's security," and Obama will do all in his power to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.
 
Democrats say they want to maintain a strong military, but argue that in the current fiscal environment, tough budgetary decisions must include defense spending. They noted that Democrats and Republicans agreed last summer in the deficit-cutting plan to reduce military spending.
Republicans, in their platform, criticizes the Obama administration as holding weak positions toward such countries as North Korea, China and Iran and for reductions in military spending.

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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
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Just the gay rights and pro-abortion stand would keep all REAL christians from voteing for any demon-rat.

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Just the gay rights and pro-abortion stand would keep all REAL christians from voteing for any demon-rat.

 
M-G WILLY. They've always been pro death and pro pervert but now it's officially part of their platform. Their pro criminal invader stance should help their unjust cause as well. And you are right, real Christians won't vote for him, only the fakers.
 I won't watch any of it because it would make me angry and sad at the same time. They always pan the crowd and show children clapping their hands as they are being lied to and indoctrinated into the pro death and pro pervert crowd.
 A young mind is a terrible thing to waste. They too will become morally bankrupt with no morals or family values, just like the adults there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( :( :(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Just the gay rights and pro-abortion stand would keep all REAL christians from voteing for any demon-rat.

 
M-G WILLY. They've always been pro death and pro pervert but now it's officially part of their platform. Their pro criminal invader stance should help their unjust cause as well. And you are right, real Christians won't vote for him, only the fakers.
 I won't watch any of it because it would make me angry and sad at the same time. They always pan the crowd and show children clapping their hands as they are being lied to and indoctrinated into the pro death and pro pervert crowd.
 A young mind is a terrible thing to waste. They too will become morally bankrupt with no morals or family values, just like the adults there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( :( :(



A lot of the democrat voters today (I think) are growing tired of the National party leaders, like some of us are sick and tired of the criminals leading the RNC today.
Contrary to what some believe..............There are many democrats that are Christian, and Democrats that do not believe in Abortion. Just like some Republicans do not believe in perpetual wars and increasing the size of our Federal government :o And some that believe a woman should have the right to choose :'( .

Some on the forum appear to believe that Democrats alone are responsible for the mess we find ourselves in today. That! is sad. And.....Not true!
http://www.democratsforlife.org/
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Contrary to what some believe..............There are many democrats that are Christian, and Democrats that do not believe in Abortion.

 
HUNTER. A real Christian could not support a party that condones murder and sin. If what you say is true then they are supporting the wrong party. I don't think it possible to support the dem party and be a real Christian. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Contrary to what some believe..............There are many democrats that are Christian, and Democrats that do not believe in Abortion.

 
HUNTER. A real Christian could not support a party that condones murder and sin. If what you say is true then they are supporting the wrong party. I don't think it possible to support the dem party and be a real Christian. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Believe me! I know people who vote Democrat, that are strong Christians. I know people who vote Republican who are ardent Atheists. Some Republicans believe in launching war against sovereign nations. Bombing them, and in  doing so, killing innocent children, men and women.Some of these people claim to be Christian.

Is it possible to support the killing of innocents in these continual war's and still be a Christian? We are all sinners...........NO? If you don't think so, then you and I read two different Bibles.To make a blanket statement that ALL Democrats (Dumcraps) or some other silly a-- name you have for your fellow Americans, are evil, anti Christian, is infantile at best!
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Believe me! I know people who vote Democrat, that are strong Christians.

 
Hunter. If they are strong Christians how can they possibly support a party that openly promotes killing babies and homosexuality, that their own Bible says is an abomination in Gods eyes?? If they vote dem they are condoning these things. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Believe me! I know people who vote Democrat, that are strong Christians.

 
Hunter. If they are strong Christians how can they possibly support a party that openly promotes killing babies and homosexuality, that their own Bible says is an abomination in Gods eyes?? If they vote dem they are condoning these things. POWDERMAN.  :o :o


They blindly follow a party that no longer resembles the platform it once stood for......The same can be said for Republicans. You belong to a party that claims to be anti-abortion. Do you really believe they are?If so, then you need to start looking at the voting records of these people.Are all Republicans evil because they register as Republicans? (Of course not)You and I belong to a party that has launched wars against sovereign nations, killing innocents along with the military complex.Does this make us evil?Certainly not! Not if we don't go along with it.

I see the changes in the two Parties ruining our Nation, and made a commitment this year, to never support them again as long as they continue to do so. That will "no doubt" be for the rest of my life.But to blame it all on the Democrats is denial that you belong to a party just as bad. IMO
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 03:41:04 PM »
Hunter. The reps aren't perfect by a long shot for sure, but they officially condemn abortion and pervert marriage, unlike the dems who promote them. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 03:59:34 PM »
Hunter. The reps aren't perfect by a long shot for sure, but they officially condemn abortion and pervert marriage, unlike the dems who promote them. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Well! it's clear neither of us will change the others opinion, so you go ahead and vote your conscience, and I'll do the same.
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 01:57:46 AM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 03:49:45 AM »
I believe in choice and to that end, I would encourage abortion for all Dumycrats.  I would allow all Dumycrats that do not make that choice to enroll in their socialized medical scheme.  I would definitely raise taxes on all wealthy Dumycrats.  I favor all queers joining the Dumycrat Party where they can have a merry time.
 
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 04:50:26 AM »
What I have noticed about both party platforms is that they contain lots of pandering but niether offer any real plans to fix the stuff that matters...like the economy or energy prices through the roof. To hell with both of these liars clubs none of them are worthy of my vote.
 

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Contrary to what some believe..............There are many democrats that are Christian, and Democrats that do not believe in Abortion.

 
HUNTER. A real Christian could not support a party that condones murder and sin. If what you say is true then they are supporting the wrong party. I don't think it possible to support the dem party and be a real Christian. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Believe me! I know people who vote Democrat, that are strong Christians. I know people who vote Republican who are ardent Atheists. Some Republicans believe in launching war against sovereign nations. Bombing them, and in  doing so, killing innocent children, men and women.Some of these people claim to be Christian.In the Bible there are passages where entire cities are killed. There is little or no reguard for human life . Where is it stated that christians have to be selective in war as to whom they kill ? It's a nice jesture for sure but required by the Bible ?

Is it possible to support the killing of innocents in these continual war's and still be a Christian? We are all sinners...........NO? If you don't think so, then you and I read two different Bibles.To make a blanket statement that ALL Democrats (Dumcraps) or some other silly a-- name you have for your fellow Americans, are evil, anti Christian, is infantile at best!
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2012, 09:12:09 AM »
M G Willy please show me a real Christian and tell me what he or she belives.
A real Christian believes in Jesus Christ and also believes his word (the bible) and trys to live a life like Christ.
Saying you are a Christian, then backing something that is a sin is proof that you are not a real christian.
Everyone sins ,, but the real christian admits to his weakness and sin .
The false christian not only sins  , but  condones the sin of others. (ABORTION, HOMOSEXUALITY)
 
 

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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2012, 11:16:10 AM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.
So let me get this right .. It is NOT ok to abort a fetus in the womb in America, but it IS ok to blow to bits children that were actually born in Iraq and Afghanistan ,in a war started by neither country, simply because their parents are Muslim?
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2012, 12:01:26 PM »
M G Willy please show me a real Christian and tell me what he or she belives.
A real Christian believes in Jesus Christ and also believes his word (the bible) and trys to live a life like Christ.
Saying you are a Christian, then backing something that is a sin is proof that you are not a real christian.
Everyone sins ,, but the real christian admits to his weakness and sin .
The false christian not only sins  , but  condones the sin of others. (ABORTION, HOMOSEXUALITY)

 
MG-WILLY. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2012, 12:52:07 PM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.
So let me get this right .. It is NOT ok to abort a fetus in the womb in America, but it IS ok to blow to bits children that were actually born in Iraq and Afghanistan ,in a war started by neither country, simply because their parents are Muslim?

When did America target children in Iraq or Afganistan ?

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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2012, 01:43:39 PM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.

You and Powderman are hypocrites to call Democrats and Libertarians baby murderers when you both openly support a baby murderer named Romney. Facts sure are pesky things you know:

http://prolifeprofiles.com/mitt-romney-abortion

As a "Pro-family" Republican Candidate: by his undeniable record fully documented below, Mitt Romney:
 - created RomneyCare which is terribly similar to ObamaCare but even worse for it openly funds all abortions, on demand
- put Planned Parenthood on the so-called "independent" board he created that offers $50 co-pay abortions
- thereby instituted tax-funded abortion on demand two years after his orchestrated "pro-life" conversion
- as late as 2012 says he would nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice John Roberts (who upheld Obamacare)
  • - continues to defend aborting hundreds of thousands of kids (denying their God-given right to life)
     - supported destructive embryonic research after his false 2004 pro-life conversion
     - put a pro-abortion Democratic judge on the bench after Romney had claimed a pro-life conversion
    - falsely claims that a court ordered him to institute same-sex marriage, a travesty he is to blame for
     - single-handedly instituted same-sex marriage and later fabricated a claim that a court ordered him to do so
    - bragged that he would continue to defend abortion "rights" after he claimed a pro-life conversion
    - denies responsibility for 10-member board funding abortion even though his executive branch filled 7 seats
     - pro-choice in '94; pro-life in '01; choice '02; pro-life '04; choice '05; life in '06; then funded abortion in '06; and now in 2012 he has a "health exception," the loophole opened by the Supreme Court's Doe v. Bolton opinion that allows all abortions, as in Colorado for example, throughout all nine months.
  • Change of Heart? Preparing to begin his bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2005, Mitt Romney orchestrated a demonstrably false 2004 pro-life conversion1 2. Romney must have expected that leading conservative media outlets, groups, authors, and talk show hosts (like Sean Hannity and Hugh Hewitt) would ignore, deny, or even defend his subsequent pro-abortion efforts. Romney's support for dismembering unborn children proves that his "conversion" was a political deception devised to steal pro-life votes. So putting Planned Parenthood on the state board that he created which authorized even late-term tax-funded abortion on demand, a crime against humanity far beyond anything the Clintons or Barack Obama have been able to accomplish, is brushed aside by untrustworthy "pro-life" conservative leaders.
  • Authorizing Tax-Funded Abortion: On April 12, 2006 Romney signed3 Massachusetts' government health care plan4 that from the start has provided taxpayer funds even for what are called "elective" abortions, killing unborn children without even the facade of the typical though invalid medical excuses common in tax-funded abortion laws. Romney's government-run health care plan5 predated Barack Obama's health care reform and according to the government of Massachusetts, "All Commonwealth Care health plans include… abortion."6
  • If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.[/c]
  • Tax-Payers Forced to Fund Abortion: Unlike the countless "liberals" and moderates who are "pro-choice" but oppose tax-funded abortion, "RomneyCare" goes beyond being merely "pro-choice" and is radically pro-abortion by overtly paying abortionists to perform any and all types of abortions with tax dollars.7 8


  • Co-pays of $0 to $100: Under Romney's Commonwealth Care, a mother insured by Plan Type 2 renders a $50 co-payment to kill her child. Plan types 3 and 4 require co-pays of up to $100.9 Currently, the total financial cost to kill a child whose mother is covered by Plan Type 110 is paid by Romney's government-regulated health care plan.
  • Mitt's 2011 Defense of RomneyCare: "For 92% or our people, nothing changed." Using a Barack Obama lie, Romney's blatantly false claim ignores: that now Massachusetts health care premiums are the highest in the nation, that when other states stop underwriting the temporary Medicaid grants which Romney procured those premiums will further skyrocket, that the law forces thousands of businesses to underwrite premiums, that this government program has cost an estimated 18,000 jobs in 2010 alone, that household budgets tighened by $2.5 billion, and that this government health care reform forces 100% of the taxpayers in the state to pay to kill unborn children.11 12 13 14 15
  • That's My Story and I'm Stickin' To It: In his campaign's Mitt Had No Choice press release, Romney called it a "myth" that the Commonwealth Care program even includes abortion as a benefit. (Just look at the torn stub above, or even click on it.) On the highest profile issue that killed his 2008 presidential bid, he claimed this: "MYTH: Under Governor Romney's Massachusetts Health Insurance Reform Plan, abortion services are offered as part of the Commonwealth Care benefit services package."16 17 Just as the Democrats expect the New York Times to never fact check their claims, so too, Romney's campaign wrote this release for the conservative talk show hosts and others whom they know are gullible, poor researchers, and who have a soft-spot for pro-abortion Republicans (e.g. "Romney governed as a pro-lifer." –Ann Coulter18 19). Even though Mitt calls it a myth that his plan pays for abortion, his press release goes on to explain why it is definitely not his fault that it does. "I didn't do it, and if I did it wasn't my fault."
  • If I Did It, Here's How It Happened: Can Mitt Romney be connected to the authority that offers tax-funded abortion? Other than, that is, that he created it, determined its composition, and staffed it? Romney and his executive branch had staffing control over seven of the ten members of the board he created. But here's Romney's lie to pass the blame for tax-funded abortion onto his friends. If I Did It: Romney claims, "The Commonwealth Care benefit services package was developed by the Connector Authority – an independent authority separate from the Governor's Office. … Their decisions were made separate of the Romney administration."20 The truth is that the "Connector" was created by Romney's authority with the Act of 2006 that he signed,21 it was placed under Romney's executive branch administration,22 23 and was run by a ten-member board with four members directly seated by Romney's authority: the Planned Parenthood seat which he created,24 and three others appointed by Romney himself, and three appointed by Romney's attorney general who was also part of the executive branch and Romney administration."25
  • It's Not My Fault: The health care plan Romney signed into law states, "Any action of the connector may take effect immediately and need not be published or posted."26 Romney's denial of responsibility for tax-funded abortion is like a governor appointing a known racist and giving him authority to lynch and then denying any responsibility.
  • Romney Expands "Medically Necessary" to ALL Abortions: Romney today falsely claims that 1981 and 1997 Massachusetts supreme court rulings27 referencing so-called "medically necessary"28 abortions forced him to provide tax-funded "elective" abortions. In the 1981 case the court opinion stated that if abortion for the life of the mother was funded, then the government must also pay for "medically necessary" abortions.29 The 1997 opinion stated that if the government paid for childbirth, it must also pay for "medically necessary" abortions30, evidently reasoning that if the government is going to pay to help kids, it must be fair and pay to kill them also. Romney's commitment to government intervention in health care prevails even when that "health care" pays to kill them. Not only is Romney's claim false that he had no choice, but adults, let alone leaders, are never "forced" in such ways. Romney should have vetoed, rather than praise and sign, any legislation that would pay abortionists to kill children. As he did also by implementing homosexual marriage, Romney created activist judges on steroids by taking anti-family court opinions and maximizing them, in this case, by interpreting "medically necessary" to mean all abortions. [For more information, see Mitt Funds Abortion below.]
In-san-i-ty: When you support a Republican who has done what you fear Obama might do.
  • Romney's "Pro-Life" Pledge Lists the Children He Supports Killing: Because he was being criticized for refusing to sign the Susan B. Antony pro-life pledge, in National Review on June 18, 2011 Mitt Romney published "My Pro-Life Pledge." He begins in his first sentence by listing the children that he supports killing.31 The word "exceptions" is a euphemism for children intentionally killed. Those who defend a politician with "exceptions" are breaking God's enduring command, Do not murder, and they are hateful especially to that politician. See American Right To Life's Life of the Mother "Exception" article to learn that even in saving the mother's life, the goal when necessary is to "terminate" the pregnancy, not the baby. That distinction exposes the loophole that our nation exploited to kill 60 million children, and presents the life-affirming difference that Mitt Romney, along with his church, rejects. And that rejection will lead to 60 million more kids dismembered unless pro-lifers stop supporting child killers (like John McCain, Bob Dole, etc.) in the name of partisan politics and out of fear of the boogeyman (who in this cycle, just happens to be Barack Obama).
  • Promotes Chemical Abortifacients: Romney signed a 2005 bill, the year following his alleged pro-life conversion, that promotes chemical abortions with Plan B.32 33 34
  • John Roberts is Mitt Romney's Model Judge: After Chief Justice John Roberts, predictably, cast the deciding vote35 to uphold Obamacare, Romney's words come off as eerily true: "As president, Mitt will nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts..."36
  • Romney's Demonstrably False Claim (Lie): Mitt Romney claims, "On every piece of legislation, I came down on the side of life."37 38
Obama is Romney-lite.
  • Discrediting Pro-Family Movement: Romney's desire for power has further undermined the pro-life industry39 as many conservatives repeat his false claim, including Ann Coulter, that "Romney governed as a pro-lifer."40 41 Still in 2010, Jordan Sekulow with his father's ACLJ wrote, "Gov Romney would and still could make a great candidate."42 Tony Perkins at the Family Research Counsel says Romney is "solidly conservative across the board"43 and a Focus Action Candidate Commentary video from Focus on the Family shockingly agrees with Romney that, "on the social issues we are so similar. [Romney and Focus on the Family]"44 45 Focus and FRC say this of a candidate who recently:46
    - funded abortion
    - opposed a Massachusetts Defense of Marriage constitutional amendment
    - said homosexuals should be allowed in the boy scouts
    - officially celebrated "Gay-Straight Youth Pride Day"
    - sat on the board of directors for a leading purveyor of pornography without opposing the corporation's exploitation of women
    - instituted homosexual marriage by ordering county clerks to issue "partner" licenses (see Coulter Hang-Ups video below),
    - lied claiming a court's Goodridge opinion47 forced his hand when it never even mentioned the governor, and
    - was ahead of Barack Obama promoting government health care48
  • TV Ad that Ran in Early Primary States: In the weeks before Romney dropped out of the 2008 presidential primary race this pro-life ad, and others just like it but customized for the various early caucus and primary states, ran hundreds of times exposing Romney for repeatedly reversing himself on the killing of children, depending on whether he is seeking pro-life or pro-choice votes.49 50 51 ABC News published our Romney Fairytale TV ad transcript:52
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2012, 02:03:54 PM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.
So let me get this right .. It is NOT ok to abort a fetus in the womb in America, but it IS ok to blow to bits children that were actually born in Iraq and Afghanistan ,in a war started by neither country, simply because their parents are Muslim?
I was against the war from the start.  I was in favor of the CIA and Mossad cutting  the head off of the snake.
I stopped by a libertarian booth at a community shindig and was told that the mother has the right to murder her baby.
let's see, in the womb is a lifeless blob.  a few minutes later and a few inches further down the birth-canal and it's suddenly a baby.    that belongs in the nonsense category.
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2012, 06:40:32 AM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.

You and Powderman are hypocrites to call Democrats and Libertarians baby murderers when you both openly support a baby
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  • But even being that far down the list, he is still way ahead of the anti-American anti-GOD , and homosexual loving obama.
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2012, 08:09:48 AM »
Bible thumpers.........Ya gotta love their inability to see past their feelings.   ::) ::)
 
There is a huge difference between a religious person and a bible thumper.  I will let you guess which one is more likely to judged lighter when their day of judgment comes.
 
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2012, 08:47:13 AM »
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  • But even being that far down the list, he is still way ahead of the anti-American anti-GOD , and homosexual loving obama.[/l][/l]
You can make all the excuses you want, it doesn't change the fact that Romney has the blood of innocent babies on his hands and was a very pro-homosexual governor of Mass.[/list]
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2012, 10:14:08 AM »
No one here is saying that Romney is ideal, but at least he is not a communist and he's not a muslim.  That puts him in a whole different category than Hussein Obama.
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2012, 10:18:14 AM »
PM, when it comes to gays and murdering babies, the names democrat and libertarian are interchangable.
So let me get this right .. It is NOT ok to abort a fetus in the womb in America, but it IS ok to blow to bits children that were actually born in Iraq and Afghanistan ,in a war started by neither country, simply because their parents are Muslim?

When did America target children in Iraq or Afganistan ?
maybe they didn't "target" them in particular, but they are still DEAD...so that's ok then? because "We didn't mean to" ?
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2012, 11:07:38 AM »
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Believe me! I know people who vote Democrat, that are strong Christians.

 
Hunter. If they are strong Christians how can they possibly support a party that openly promotes killing babies and homosexuality, that their own Bible says is an abomination in Gods eyes?? If they vote dem they are condoning these things. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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 Ehhhh, I don't see how any party could be against 'killing babies' and be against a proper national Healthcare Program to keep babies healthy when you bring them into this world..  That's a real big disconnect with reality....."Thou shall not commit hypocrisy."
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2012, 02:30:43 PM »

 a proper national Healthcare Program
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Wonder what that is? Government never will create a proper healthcare program. They are incapable of it. So why do we even mention it? Like its a possibility. 
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Re: The platform of the dnc, sure to please the pro death crowd, and perverts.
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2012, 02:54:33 PM »
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You can make all the excuses you want, it doesn't change the fact that Romney has the blood of innocent babies on his hands and was a very pro-homosexual governor of Mass.[/q]
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I voted for Santorum in the primary. pro-life...
I imagine Romneys Church and maybe MRS. Romney got him straight.
speaking of making excuses, how about your boy RP voting to allow abortions on underage girls without parental notification.[/q][/q]
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