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Offline Sourdough

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Life in the Colony of Alaska
« on: June 04, 2012, 02:45:49 PM »
Is the price of gasoline going down in your area?  It has not here.  We are paying $4.69 per gallon for reguler gasoline, and Diesel.  This fuel is being made from oil being directly pulled out of the Alaska Pipeline, and gasoline and diesel pulled out then the excess put back into the line.  The owners of Flint Hills refinery are making a killing off us, simply because they have a monopoly here in the colony.
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 02:53:19 PM »
But doesn't each citizen of Alaska get some kind of rebate from the state for the oil and other natural resources exported from the state?
Not sure where I heard that, or what I heard, but it was something like that.
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2012, 04:18:52 PM »
It's about $3.36 for regular here in the Dallas area...dropped about 60 cents in the last month or so.
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 04:51:58 AM »
I'm paying $4.90 for a US gal here. :(
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 06:41:38 AM »
OTZ's, KIC Gas pump is $7.35/gal +6% city sales tax.
That fuel could be free at the tank farm in Valdez and it'd still cost a arm and a leg to barge it to OTZ.
with the only two options open to us Barge it during the Ice free time (July -Sept) or airfreight year round neither is cheap.
The only thing cheap in bush alaska is talk. ::)
I'd collected Hugo Chevez's fuel voucher this spring for 84gallons of heating oil in OTZ. ;D
that fuel voucher has been a ongoing thing for the last 6 years, when it first started every household in the region was originally alloted 100gallons of heating oil from your local heating oil vender  ;D
I might have to send Hugo a get well card!
 
some the news from last winter.
http://www.adn.com/2012/01/09/2254899/noatak-and-kobuk-have-just-about.html#storylink=omni_popular
 
http://www.adn.com/2012/01/09/2253848/thickening-ice-raises-worries.html
 
http://www.alaskapublic.org/2012/01/11/renda-makes-just-seven-miles-on-tuesday/
 
http://www.alaskapublic.org/2012/01/11/coldest-villages-paying-highest-prices-for-fuel/
 
http://www.alaskapublic.org/2012/02/23/high-heating-costs-plague-bethel/
 
http://tundratantrum.blogspot.com/2011/10/cost-of-living.html
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 06:51:36 AM »
here its around $3.60 a gal. be glad you are up in the clean air I'm about 100 miles south of DC .
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2012, 07:25:44 AM »
I paid $3.10 yesterday at Sam's Club in Alabama.  Still high from the $2.35 or so when Obama took office.  Someone I've read about tried to make their own fuel.  They took one gallon of some type seed and pressed it with the machine they had and got 1/2 pint of oil.  They were going to used the patti to feed to their animals.  Sounds like a lot of work to get a cup out of a gallon of seeds.  They said corn, grass seed, or almost any kind of seeds would do.  They used a gallon of bird seed.  Sounds expensive unless you grow your own.  I know it can substitute for diesel.  Maybe if you got up a group to get a bunch of money and build a second refinery, maybe your costs will come down. 
 
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2012, 09:50:18 AM »
Dixie Dude:  Off subject but you asked.  The cramp was so sever it tore the inner thigh muscle, and tendon to my right knee.  Been off the Statin since that night.  Cramps are getting less and not as sever.  Did not have any last night for the first time.  Sky told me it would be 6 to 8 weeks for the muscle, and tendon to heal.  Still hurts to walk, but getting better.

Pow Pow:  Yes all Alaskan residences get a dividend $1,800 down to $300 per year.  Dependent on the stock market.  The people in Anchorage spend it on Big Screen TVs, or other things they want.  The people in Fairbanks and the bush spend it on heating oil.  Heating oil is between $900.00 to $1,000.00 a month to heat my home during the winter.  So you can see where my dividend goes.  But that has nothing to do with the price of gasoline.

Gas goes up  .10 for you guys ours goes up .10 as well.  Then yours comes down .10, but ours does not.  Then the next time yours goes up so does ours, yours goes down ours does not.  If it does go down it will go down half as much as yours.  If that happened in Florida, Utah, or Georgia, the Feds would be all over it.  But way up here in the geographically separated colony of Alaska, they don't even give it a thought.  We are supposed to be a State, but we are treated like a colony.  We are not allowed to govern our selves, we are governed by regulations put in place by the other states.  Congressmen from Massachusetts and Pennsylvania put in bills to stop us from managing our game animals, they think they know better how many animals we should be allowed to hunt, and where we can hunt them.  Now they are trying to stop us from drilling in the National Petrolium Peserve, that was set aside speciffically for oil drilling.  Ask the man on the street why they should have a say in what goes on in Alaska, they will tell you, "We bought Alaska from Russia. So it ours to govern".  They refuse to admit we are a State.  Half of the people in the US think we are a small island off the coast of California, that's where they always see it on the evening news weather map. 
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 02:33:40 AM »
Yep, my wife, when she lived in Oregon, had some business dealings with some Finn's.  They got out a map one night, and wanted to drive to Chicago.  They had no idea how big our country is.  I have ran into some black people who think we never went to the moon.  They think it was all staged in Holywood or something.  Like not drilling in Anwar, and area the size of Washington DC, yet the game preserve is the size of the whole state of South Carolina.  Or the congressman who though Guam would tip over and sink if they transferred marines there from Okinowa.  (Can't spell check from my work computer???)
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 08:32:51 PM »
Gas situation not too different in CA.  They know there is no political price to pay. What about LPG?  Wood? Tallow?

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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2012, 07:04:03 AM »
How often do you get that Hugo Voucher?
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2012, 07:21:13 AM »
 thisThe Citgo heating oil Voucher is once each year, this year it was not for a set quantity like before (100gallons) this time it is for $400 worth of heating oil, In OTZ the Citgo vouchers were over saw by Maniilaq assn, they compile the list of home owners and landlords, heads of households (rentors get one too) you go in to confirm your identity and they put your name on the list for a voucher, the vouchers are sent to the local fuel vender when you go in to get fuel oil they have it on a clipboard.
 
Some folks balk at the idea that Citgo is a Hugo Chavez run company, still I caw Citgo fuel stations around the lower 48 when I travel, seems folks dont fault the gasoline company for Hugo's personal brand of politics , I have no problem with a venezuelan oil company giving out free heating oil in the Arctic, I know I'd stop to pick up a dollar bill laying on the ground, same goes with oil companies giving away oil vouchers, they dont actually send heating oil to Alaska they just send money and it pays for the heating oil already here.
 
http://www.citizensenergy.com/english/pages/OilHeatProgram
 
 
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Re: Life in the Colony of Alaska
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2012, 07:40:24 AM »
Rex:
I would not have turned down a payed by Castro voucher. ;)
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