Kentucky changing execution drugs.

[powderman]

http://www.wdrb.com/story/18670751/kentucky-changing-the-way-prisoners-executed
 
 
They will go with  1 drug instead of 3. POWDERMAN. 

[muznut 54]

For the truly guilty if its cheaper that's great, but I think a .22 bullet would be better.

[ironglow]

   Either one of these, is better than what most states do now...
 
   

[blind ear]

Russia uses a 9mm to the back of the head. ear
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http://listverse.com/2007/09/18/top-10-modern-methods-of-execution/

[powderman]

I never understood why big bucks is spent on fancy drugs for that. Every state has gobs of seized drugs, just give em an OD. They get high and never come down. POWDERMAN. 

[P.A. Myers]

Here in CA they use death by sodomy, administered by the governor.

[ironglow]

Here in CA they use death by sodomy, administered by the governor.

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  Is that why they have "pet names" like "The Terminator" and "Moonbeam" ?           

[muznut 54]

I think most of us would rather take the bullet in the head than be in prison for life with a bunch of gay bros.

[Land_Owner]

Low life female bilked the State Food Stamp program for over $17K using 6 different ID's until they caught her.  Now the Taxpayers will spend over $100K to prosecute, another $500K to incarcerate, so I say, put a bullet in her head or give her the money.  Either way, it costs the Taxpayers LESS in the long run.  How stupid are we? 

A suggestion from my "practical" hunting partner (at 75 years young) "Lace all confiscated cocaine with Strychnine.  Put it back on the street.  Real soon, no more drug problem in America .  Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, Plumbers, Housewives, Business Executives, Junkies, no boundaries."

[powderman]

A suggestion from my "practical" hunting partner (at 75 years young) "Lace all confiscated cocaine with Strychnine.  Put it back on the street.  Real soon, no more drug problem in America .  Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, Plumbers, Housewives, Business Executives, Junkies, no boundaries."

 
Agreed Sir, meth too. Be a good start. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

A suggestion from my "practical" hunting partner (at 75 years young) "Lace all confiscated cocaine with Strychnine.  Put it back on the street.  Real soon, no more drug problem in America .  Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, Plumbers, Housewives, Business Executives, Junkies, no boundaries."

Now there is an idea - mass murder in the name of fiscal austerity, and the
War on (some) Drugs...

[muznut 54]

What about teens just experimenting heck when I was a teen I messed with pot and some of my friends did worse at one point I broke it off and moved to FL. just to get away from them and moved back north 20yrs later and most of them have good jobs and families with the exception of two.

[lakota]

Meth and coke are poison as it is without adding anything. One misstep with cocaine and your hear beats out of control and then its check out time.

[BBF]

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A suggestion from my "practical" hunting partner (at 75 years young) "Lace all confiscated cocaine with Strychnine.  Put it back on the street...................

The only fly in the ointment I see in this is the mandated efforts, EM's are required to perform to sustain life in the slimes.

[ironglow]

A suggestion from my "practical" hunting partner (at 75 years young) "Lace all confiscated cocaine with Strychnine.  Put it back on the street.  Real soon, no more drug problem in America .  Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, Plumbers, Housewives, Business Executives, Junkies, no boundaries."

Now there is an idea - mass murder in the name of fiscal austerity, and the
War on (some) Drugs...

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   Not necessarily "mass murder" if the prospect of getting some strychnine laced junk is widely announced, explained clearly by a informational program radio, TV , internet etc BEFORE the lacing starts...then it's not murder...but suicide.  I say do it with any illegal drugs..found.   It doesn't have to be much of the supply laced with strychnine...just enough to deter.
    If they see a few buds drop here & there...they will likely get the message.

[powderman]

A suggestion from my "practical" hunting partner (at 75 years young) "Lace all confiscated cocaine with Strychnine.  Put it back on the street.  Real soon, no more drug problem in America .  Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, Plumbers, Housewives, Business Executives, Junkies, no boundaries."

Now there is an idea - mass murder in the name of fiscal austerity, and the
War on (some) Drugs...

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   Not necessarily "mass murder" if the prospect of getting some strychnine laced junk is widely announced, explained clearly by a informational program radio, TV , internet etc BEFORE the lacing starts...then it's not murder...but suicide.  I say do it with any illegal drugs..found.   It doesn't have to be much of the supply laced with strychnine...just enough to deter.
    If they see a few buds drop here & there...they will likely get the message.

 
IG. YEP. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

   Not necessarily "mass murder" if the prospect of getting some strychnine laced junk is widely announced, explained clearly by a informational program radio, TV , internet etc BEFORE the lacing starts...then it's not murder...but suicide.  I say do it with any illegal drugs..found.   It doesn't have to be much of the supply laced with strychnine...just enough to deter.
    If they see a few buds drop here & there...they will likely get the message.

Ironglow, you should initiate this program of poisoning your fellow citizens. Will you ask God to bless you efforts? Will it be like Christians dunking women accused of witchcraft - 'if they survive, they weren't witches!' or some similar hokum?


Go ahead. I promise I'll write you in prison while you're serving life.

[BBF]

Judging by some posts here I'm more worried about some Christians then Muslims.

[ironglow]

   Not necessarily "mass murder" if the prospect of getting some strychnine laced junk is widely announced, explained clearly by a informational program radio, TV , internet etc BEFORE the lacing starts...then it's not murder...but suicide.  I say do it with any illegal drugs..found.   It doesn't have to be much of the supply laced with strychnine...just enough to deter.
    If they see a few buds drop here & there...they will likely get the message.

Ironglow, you should initiate this program of poisoning your fellow citizens. Will you ask God to bless you efforts? Will it be like Christians dunking women accused of witchcraft - 'if they survive, they weren't witches!' or some similar hokum?


Go ahead. I promise I'll write you in prison while you're serving life.

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  You didn't read very closely !  I prefaced the mention with this;
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  " Not necessarily "mass murder" if the prospect of getting some strychnine laced junk is widely announced, explained clearly by a informational program radio, TV , internet etc BEFORE the lacing starts...then it's not murder...but suicide"
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  We're talking about protecting an entire population, not preserving doping privileges for a few !  We have all had times where we saw notations such as "highly toxic, do not drink", or "do not try to clean mower blade with your hand while mowing".. or
  "keep out, impact area, unexploded ordnance from here on".
   Anybody who is stupid enough to intentionally disobey these self-preservation signs, should probably be cleared from the gene pool anyway..
  A few hopeless addicts is a fair trade to save the lives of many innocnt people killed in drug related robberies, drive by shootings and cartel related massacres.  Since widespread drug use means widespread death...I'd rather it were the guilty, rather than the innocent.. who do the dying.
   Would you prefer the innocent do the dying ?

[dukkillr]

So, about the execution drugs and not some ridiculous fantasy world plan to poison others...

[ironglow]

So, about the execution drugs and not some ridiculous fantasy world plan to poison others...

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    They would be poisoning themselves...just as they are already doing....slowly..
 
     Major problem is, too often they are killing innocents in order to buy more poison for themselves...

[dukkillr]

So, about the execution drugs and not some ridiculous fantasy world plan to poison others...

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    They would be poisoning themselves...just as they are already doing....slowly..
 
     Major problem is, too often they are killing innocents in order to buy more poison for themselves...

Your theory is that death row inmates will take poisonous drugs willingly?  Do you just put them in a room with a bowl of their favorite illegal drug (that has been poisoned, of course)?  Does the family just watch and wait?  What, pray tell, do you do when they say no?  Inject them with the poison drugs?  But wait, that's exactly what we already do, except for the part where you're wanting to mix cocain or heroin in too...  Never mind that it's never going to happen, wouldn't survive either the Supreme Court or the Real World test...

[Dixie Dude]

Some executed people do donate their bodies to science, so the type execution drug does make a difference if someone needs to use kidneys, livers, hearts, lungs, or any other vital organ.
 
I say legalise drugs that one can come off of, tax it, regulate it, and keep the expensive war on drugs costs down.  Like marijuana.  One can quit it and get over addiction.  Same with cocane and heroin.  Meth is so addictive, you can't get off it once you go so far, so it should still be illegal.  Once legal, then you get control of dealers, users, etc.  Sell it only at abc stores, not grocery stores.  Get ID's of those who buy it.  Limit the quantity they can buy at one time by computerising the purchases, like they do with Psudaphed now.  I think it would take the excitement away, that allures young people. 

[ironglow]

So, about the execution drugs and not some ridiculous fantasy world plan to poison others...

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    They would be poisoning themselves...just as they are already doing....slowly..
 
     Major problem is, too often they are killing innocents in order to buy more poison for themselves...

Your theory is that death row inmates will take poisonous drugs willingly?  Do you just put them in a room with a bowl of their favorite illegal drug (that has been poisoned, of course)?  Does the family just watch and wait?  What, pray tell, do you do when they say no?  Inject them with the poison drugs?  But wait, that's exactly what we already do, except for the part where you're wanting to mix cocain or heroin in too...  Never mind that it's never going to happen, wouldn't survive either the Supreme Court or the Real World test...

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  No, my theory is not that death row inmates would take poison willingly.. my answer for death row inmates were .308 and 30/06.  If I were facing execution, I would rather take it from a rifle barrel than a needle.
   The ones I see as willingly taking poison are the ones who are at this moment using illegal drugs.  Cocaine, heroine, meth etc are all forms of poison; the human body was not designed to overdose on chemicals daily...thus they are willingly killing themselves...slowly...

[muznut 54]

My old man use to say keep the murderers alive long enough for body parts you need a kidney or a lung here ya go, until they have the big one removed that will kill em.

[blind ear]

My old man use to say keep the murderers alive long enough for body parts you need a kidney or a lung here ya go, until they have the big one removed that will kill em.

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Seems to be the way China has been doing it. ear

[Hooker]

Will it be like Christians dunking women accused of witchcraft - 'if they survive, they weren't witches!' or some similar hokum?

Knowing how your like to make sure everyone here has there facts straight, I'll take this opportunity to help you with yours.
Christians did not commit such atrocities. Religious zealots is the name you were looking for.

Pat

[yellowtail3]

Christians did not commit such atrocities. Religious zealots is the name you were looking for.
Pat

I think you misunderstand me, but to your point:
 
These are religious zealots, of course, but they're also Christian Zealots. I know, I know... when Christians do wackiness, the reflexive refrain is, "He's not a Christian, he is a religionist or not a real Christian!"
 
... I've said it myself. I know you don't want to claim them, but if you're gonna have Muslims own every nutcase named Muhammad, then in fairness you've got to have Christians owning every dingbat who claims to a Christian. It won't be very satisfactory... but imagine how Muslims feel about this sort of trade.

[Cuts Crooked]

... I've said it myself. I know you don't want to claim them, but if you're gonna have Muslims own every nutcase named Muhammad, then in fairness you've got to have Christians owning every dingbat who claims to a Christian. It won't be very satisfactory... but imagine how Muslims feel about this sort of trade.

 
Simple difference: Christians generally ternd to condemn nutcase behaviour, Muslims generally don't.

[Swift One]

  No, my theory is not that death row inmates would take poison willingly.. my answer for death row inmates were .308 and 30/06.  If I were facing execution, I would rather take it from a rifle barrel than a needle.

You ever seen an execution by lethal injection out side of he movies?  If you did, you would take the needle.  All they do is go to sleep. They quite literally, just go to sleep.  The second and third applicaiton of drugs, is what kills the organs.  Im not sure what KY is going to go to with just one drug.
 
I believe in the death penalty.  But I also believe it needs to be administered in a civil manner. Which is why we have pretty much done away with hangings, firing squads, and the chair.  Alot of stuff goes wrong with those forms of execution.  The three drug lethal injection is a pretty civil and fool proof process.