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Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« on: June 01, 2012, 01:30:39 PM »
I think some people have been in the sun too long.....

Iran: Discovery will collapse Christianity Says Turkish 'Bible' has Barnabas forecasting Muhammad's coming
By Reza Kahlili
Iran’s Basij Press is claiming a purported Gospel of Barnabas, discovered in 2000, will prove that Islam is the final and righteous religion, causing the collapse worldwide of Christianity.
Turkey confiscated the text, written on animal hide, in an anti-smuggling operation. Turkish authorities believe it could be an authentic version of the Gospel of Barnabas by the apostle known for his travels with the apostle Paul.
Basij Press contends the text was written in the 5th or 6th century and predicts the coming of Muhammad and the religion of Islam.
The Christian world, it says, denies the existence of such a gospel.
Another known “Barnabas Gospel” dates to the late 16th century, which would post-date Muhammad.
In the Barnabas text held by Turkey, chapter 41 states: “God has hidden himself as Archangel Michael ran them (Adam and Eve) out of heaven, (and) when Adam turned, he noticed that at top of the gateway to heaven, it was written ‘La elah ela Allah, Mohamad rasool Allah,’” meaning Allah is the only God and Muhammad his prophet.
The Turkish army has taken possession of the text because the “Zionists” and the governments of the West are trying to suppress its contents, Basij Press claims.
According to the Barnabas Gospel in Turkey’s hands, Basij Press says, Jesus was never crucified, He’s not the Son of God and He, Himself, predicts the coming of Muhammad. The book even predicts the coming of the last Islamic messiah, the report says.
“The discovery of the original Barnabas Bible will now undermine the Christian Church and its authority and will revolutionize the religion in the world,” the Basij report says. “The most significant fact, though, is that this Bible has predicted the coming of Prophet Mohammad and in itself has verified the religion of Islam, and this alone will unbalance the powers of the world and create instability in the Christian world.”
The Basij report concludes that the discovery is so immense, it will affect world politics, and that the world powers have become aware of its impact.
Turkey plans to put the Bible on public display. Though Turkish authorities believe it could be an authentic version of the Gospel of Barnabas, others believe it only goes back to the 16th century and is a fake because it would have been written centuries after Muhammad’s life.
Erick Stakelbeck, host of the Christian Broadcasting Network’s “Stakelbeck on Terror” show and a close observer of Iranian affairs, said Iran is highlighting the book because it sees Christianity as a threat.
“The Iranian regime is committed to stamping out Christianity by any means necessary, whether that means executing Christian converts, burning Bibles or raiding underground churches,” he explained.
“In promoting the so-called Barnabas Bible – which was likely written sometime in the 16th century and is not accepted by any mainstream Christian denomination – the regime is once again attempting to discredit the Christian faith. Record numbers of young Iranians are leaving Islam and embracing Christ, and the mullahs see Christianity as a growing threat to their authority.”
The Vatican has requested to see the text, but it is unknown if Turkey has provided access.
Iranian ayatollahs regularly declared that Islam is the last and only righteous religion sent by God.
Grand Ayatollah Jafar Sobhani, in a recent statement, proclaimed that since the Quran was the last holy book and provides the most complete religion to the world, and Muhammad the last prophet, there is no authority to abide by other books. The Quran clearly indicates that only those who have accepted the true religion of Islam are the guided ones, he said.
As reported recently, a former intelligence officer in the Revolutionary Guards revealed that tens of thousands of Bibles were confiscated and burned in Iran under the order of Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The mullah said the Bible is not a holy book and its burning is morally acceptable.
Khamenei said: “In light of the realization of the divine promise by almighty Allah, the Zionists and the Great Satan (America) will soon be defeated. Allah’s promise will be delivered and Islam will be victorious.”
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 01:43:36 PM »
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Record numbers of young Iranians are leaving Islam and embracing Christ, and the mullahs see Christianity as a growing threat to their authority.”

 
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 09:49:00 PM »
Would'nt  that make Barnabas over four hundred years old ?
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 10:30:40 PM »
 Well yeah, being mohammedians they would say that, woudn't they?
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2012, 11:22:52 PM »
  Did you say Muslims are deserting their "faith" ?  Why in the world would anyone want to miss out on the beheadings, stonings, honor killings and jihads ?
 
  The "gospel" of Barnabas is nothing new..it is a forgery from the middle ages which  is being passed off as authentic...to anyone who will pay heed.
     http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/gbar/index.htm
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2012, 12:01:01 AM »
Christianity collapsed some time ago.  Religion took it's place.
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2012, 12:25:08 AM »
Swampy - make that "Organized Religion" and I hear you loud and clear..."Send your money to God, but write your checks in care of Me."

If there is one thing that scares the pants off of organized religion, it is the possibility that their power base could collapse.  Thus, it is critical for them to criticize and kill any momentum that tends to sway power away from their position.

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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2012, 09:53:44 AM »
Paul's Christianity is the only Christianity there is.  Any other is a lie.
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2012, 09:54:37 AM »
Swampy - make that "Organized Religion" and I hear you loud and clear..."Send you money to God, but write your checks in care of Me."

If there is one thing that scares the pants off of organized religion, it is the possibility that their power base could collapse.  Thus, it is critical for them to criticize and kill any momentum that tends to sway power away from their position.

Looking forward to organized Religion failing.
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 07:08:26 PM »
Christianity is not a religion it's a relationship

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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2012, 12:40:27 AM »
  Back to the thread...  Iran digs up some acropyphal, "deuterocanonical" book, tries to call it factual, and as swampthing pointed out, some folks fall for it.
  Too bad people are not more up-to-date on this material, they wouldn't be fooled near so easily.  Real Christianity has been attacked since the first local church was established at jerusalem.  It was persecuted for centuries and and survived..then came some enlightenment and it thrived..it has again been under attack (by the unenlightened) for 150 years and still survived.
  A "Country Boy can survive"... and so can the true church which Christ himself established.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2012, 10:13:10 AM »
Christianity collapsed some time ago.  Religion took it's place.
That statement might be a bit much for many to handle, although I completely agree.

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2012, 10:15:19 AM »
Paul's Christianity is the only Christianity there is.  Any other is a lie.
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????... then what happened to Jesus CHRIST's "Christianity"?

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2012, 12:32:56 PM »
If it isn't Paul's, it isn't Jesus'.
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2012, 04:18:37 PM »
Back to the original post;
 
  The Idea that Christianity is finished is just "wishful thinking" by Iran ...and a few other deluded folks.. 
  ...But then, the Bible says that for some hardheads, God would send them "strong delusion".
         
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 12:10:32 AM »
That strong delusion is religion.  They abandoned Christianity for religion....many years ago.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2012, 02:34:50 AM »
That strong delusion is religion.  They abandoned Christianity for religion....many years ago.
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  Swampy;
  You're not getting much debate from Christians with the above statement. I think it is because any Christian reasonably familiar with scripture, already knows that "religion" is not Christianity.
 
  Perhaps it is time to lock up here, we're getting off track.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2012, 01:46:13 PM »
Paul was the most important Apostle.  He was the only one who actually knew what was going on.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2012, 03:05:08 PM »
    " Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus" (2 Timothy 1:1)
 
 
   A profile of Paul, by Jack Zavada;
 
   " The Apostle Paul, who started as one of Christianity's most zealous enemies, was hand-picked by Jesus Christ to become the gospel's most ardent messenger. Paul traveled tirelessly through the ancient world, taking the message of salvation to the Gentiles. Paul towers as one of the all-time giants of Christianity"..
 
   TM...we rely on the Bible here, for most here, the Gnostic writings are not given equal status..nor should it be given.
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2012, 12:32:34 AM »
   From the article:
   In promoting the so-called Barnabas Bible – which was likely written sometime in the 16th century and is not accepted by any mainstream Christian denomination – the regime is once again attempting to discredit the Christian faith. Record numbers of young Iranians are leaving Islam and embracing Christ, and the mullahs see Christianity as a growing threat to their authority
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  Uh.Huh...
     " For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)
 
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2012, 03:09:20 AM »
I'm Paul's biggest fan.  He's the only apostle that knew anything about salvation.  When God turned from the Jews to the Gentiles, he chose Paul to carry the mail.  The rest couldn't do it.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2012, 03:57:09 AM »
Once again, I'm not guessing.  Anyone that builds on anything other than Paul's Christanity is taking you in the wrong direction.  Just because you hate Jews doesn't make it ok to twist scripture and embrace false books.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 05:25:56 AM »
I've reviewed it many times.  The angel of the church of Ephesus was Paul.
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Re: Iran says discovery will collapse Christianity
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 08:02:44 AM »
I don't see the Turk/Iranian "discovery" shaking anybody's faith.

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2012, 09:47:59 AM »
TM7,

You say Jesus was a big fan of the Ephesians.    Ephesus was in Asia Minor/Anatolia, now modern day Turkey; Jesus never left the Jewish homelands -- born in Bethlehem, raised in Nazareth, died in Jerusalem.

How could a person that never left the Jewish homelands be a devotee of peoples hundreds of miles away, that he never met?

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2012, 11:54:24 AM »
Read Rev 2:1-7

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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2012, 12:10:35 PM »
TM7,

You say Jesus was a big fan of the Ephesians.    Ephesus was in Asia Minor/Anatolia, now modern day Turkey; Jesus never left the Jewish homelands -- born in Bethlehem, raised in Nazareth, died in Jerusalem.

How could a person that never left the Jewish homelands be a devotee of peoples hundreds of miles away, that he never met?

ST762
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  Small correction....It was as above, except for a short sojourn in Egypt, until King Herod died.
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2012, 12:22:27 PM »
Swampie.....Paul was not an Apostle...Apostles established first Christian Church along gnostic lines. Paul was a hard line jew as was his entire family/father  but claimed enlightenment.  He was first in line to attempt to bring bifurcated Christians back into the fold. Gospel of Barnabas has been around a while. Notice the original post claims the Turks do not want to release the scrolls to the West for fear of destruction.
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  Back to the thread...  Iran digs up some acropyphal, "duterocanonical" book, tries to call it factual, and as swampthing pointed out, some folks fall for it.
  Too bad people are not more up-to-date on this material, they wouldn't be fooled near so easily.  Real Christianity has been attacked since the first local church was established at jerusalem.  It was persecuted for centuries and and survived..then came some enlightenment and it thrived..it has again been under attack (by the unenlightened) for 150 years and still survived.
  A "Country Boy can survive"... and so can the true church which Christ himself established.
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 Well exactly,,,under attack long before moosilimbs were invented....same attackers still around and sneakier than ever.
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   TM;
   It sure is curious that you claim Paul was not an apostle.  The rest of the apostles had no problem with the idea of Paul's apostleship, after the initial surprise in Damascus.  In fact, some think Paul became the foremost apostle...at least to the point where he felt comfortable chewing Peter out !
     "But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned". (Galatians 2:11).
 
  He was boss enough that when he told Peter to go east and minister to the Jews in Babylon...Peter went !
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2012, 12:40:58 PM »
Read Rev 2:1-7

I did and have many times.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2012, 12:00:40 PM »
Anyone that diminishes Paul in anyway isn't telling the truth.  He was the 1st messenger to the Gentiles and very clearly sent by God to them.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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