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Offline Huntergeorgetwo

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Older 45/70 ?
« on: April 20, 2012, 05:23:22 PM »
 
 
 
Older 45/70 ?
Hay all
Today I picked up a used Handy Rifle in 45/70, after a lot of reading and searching FAQ and Help
I found the SN # Prefix  of NH would put the year of maf. 1993.
I checked and it is the SB 2 farme, my question? Are the older SB 2 frames strong enough to
Take the Marlin level  loads?  Would these loads be considered High Pressure Chambering?
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 06:01:13 PM »
Quote from: Huntergeorgetwo on April 20, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
I found the SN # Prefix  of NH would put the year of maf. 1993.
I checked and it is the SB 2 farme, my question? Are the older SB 2 frames strong enough to Take the Marlin level  loads?  Would these loads be considered High Pressure Chambering?
Thanks
Huntergeorgetwo
 
If your talking about loads like the "Buffalo Bore - 45-70Magnum" loads.  The answer is yes. 

   http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=151

The SB2 Handi frames can handle the 60,000psi generated by the 500 S&W round, so the approximately 40,000psi generated by 45-70 Mag loads can be handled by a Handi.

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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 01:50:25 AM »
 
Thanls Ranger
  Thats the info I was looking for.
Have a good day.
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 05:24:47 AM »
hntrgeorge
 
you SB2 should be fine, my 1988 SB2 worked well with levergun 45-70 rounds.
 
I would check the underlug to verify it is welded.  pre 1986 45-70s underlugs were not welded but brazed & barrels do get switched.
 
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 06:12:45 AM »
 
Thanks bikerbeans
I’ll take a look, I take it a braze would look like brass and not be blued?

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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2012, 12:39:53 PM »
Yes, silvery brass in color.
 
 
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 12:33:49 PM »
 
 
Thanks Catshooter45
With the info from all of you and what I found in FAQ & Help, this is what
I have: A 1993 SB 2 Frame with a 45/70 barrel, welded under lug that
Can handle level 2/ Marlin loads.
Now just need to load some up and have some fun.
Thanks All
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 03:15:11 PM »
 
Hay All.
I know it’s been a while, but I did get to shoot some mid level Marlin loads
only to discover I have a Trapdoor level shoulder.
I do have aTrapdoor load that shoots good, 30gr. SR 4759, Hornady300gr.JHP
@ 1380 FPS and 1.5 in. at 75yds.
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 05:56:48 AM »
Quote from: Huntergeorgetwo on June 12, 2012, 03:15:11 PM

Hay All.
.... I have a Trapdoor level shoulder.

I like that. Well, you won't find a lot of kindred spirits here. There is a long streak of masochism among the recoil junkies here  ;)   I take it you have no interest in a Hubel Express of one ilk or another?

I'm with you completely though. 30-30 is one of my favorite rounds and ever since I went Swedish (6.5x55) my interest in my 30-06 has tailed off substantially.
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 11:03:40 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D , Im with you on TD level loads!
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 12:00:03 PM »
I see no reason to shoot heavy loads in a .45-70 and it's my favorite cartridge.
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Re: Older 45/70 ?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2012, 12:09:53 PM »
yep I'm with the rst of you, trap door levels are okay with me. The heviest I go is hornady LE rounds in my ultra hunter only because they shoot the best in in that gun.
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