Author Topic: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List (Read 81069 times)

Swampman · « **Reply #90 on:** April 09, 2012, 03:48:03 PM »

Let me see..Satan or Obama....anyone but Obama.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #91 on:** April 09, 2012, 03:58:13 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on April 09, 2012, 01:10:34 PM

The fact is a true conservative will never be the President again. I'm not sure we've ever had one. I'm pretty sure we don't want one. We need someone that represents all Americans, not just upper middle aged white Baptist men. We are never going back to the 1950s. Pick your battles or lose. Those are your choices.

I disagree,
A president with a message of we can do better, we can make it better, we are better. A presdient that understands that you need to lay out things for the dolts in the media and make them think and carry your message and explain why lower taxes are good for all. Lower taxes = lower costs= higher demand= more goods made= more jobs= Lower un-employment= higher wages.
Higher taxes = higher prices = lower demand = fewer goods made or stocked= fewer jobs= Higher un employment =lower wages.
A true conservitive pointing out that the EPA and the Democrats with the leftist governemnt is stopping union jobs, they are anti construction, anit mining, anti refining, anti manufacturing, and anti transportation. All middle class jobs.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #92 on:** April 09, 2012, 04:00:36 PM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 09, 2012, 02:52:45 PM

You guys seem so fond of analogy, maybe this will help.

40% want to vote for Satan.

40% want to vote for the Golden Calf.

20% want to vote for Moses.

Should the 20% throw their vote to to the Calf because "he's better than Satan"?

Remember, this is an analogy about principles...............

You can't eat an entire elephant with one bite. You can't climb to the top of the stairs with one step.

The all or nothing strategy is one that should be correctly timed.

nomosendero · « **Reply #93 on:** April 09, 2012, 04:10:02 PM »

"Just upper middle aged White Baptist Men"

I knew it was a big block, but that big?

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #94 on:** April 09, 2012, 04:10:37 PM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 09, 2012, 02:52:45 PM

You guys seem so fond of analogy, maybe this will help.

40% want to vote for Satan.

40% want to vote for the Golden Calf.

20% want to vote for Moses.

Should the 20% throw their vote to to the Calf because "he's better than Satan"?

Remember, this is an analogy about principles...............

Unfortunatly is is more like 43% want satan
40% want the golden Claf
11% want Mosses
6% will not vote because they wanted to go back to Egypt or some other principal.
End of the story, if the Mosses people do not vote for the Golden calf, Mosses has no chance of making a difference down the road.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #95 on:** April 10, 2012, 01:36:59 AM »

Quote from: mcwoodduck on April 09, 2012, 04:10:37 PM

if the Mosses people do not vote for the Golden calf, Mosses has no chance of making a difference down the road.

very good. but the moses folks can't see down the road.

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #96 on:** April 10, 2012, 02:14:37 AM »

I find it sad that so many of you think that electing "the right" president will magically fix things. Pun intended btw.

And to mcwoodduck and cuts, it's more like this...

43% want socialism.
40% want socialism, but with a nicer name on it. Like Republican or "Vote out Obama"
11% still care what happens.
6% could care less.

83% of voters will pound their chest and drone on and on endlessly about how righteous their views are. 11% can see through all the mass media hype and actually care about what kind of country their children and grandchildren will inherit and 6% still could care less what happnes...

Like it or not, with a guy like Romney running your still looking at another 4 years of Obama. May as well resolve to do whatever is possible to elect a Republican majority into Congress to block Obama as best as we can until the Republicans finally unite under a candidate that actually gives a damn about this country. Not a candidate that promises the same social reform as the current guy.

Swampman · « **Reply #97 on:** April 10, 2012, 02:30:02 AM »

Quote from: mcwoodduck on April 09, 2012, 03:58:13 PM

Quote from: Swampman on April 09, 2012, 01:10:34 PM
The fact is a true conservative will never be the President again. I'm not sure we've ever had one. I'm pretty sure we don't want one. We need someone that represents all Americans, not just upper middle aged white Baptist men. We are never going back to the 1950s. Pick your battles or lose. Those are your choices.
I disagree,
A president with a message of we can do better, we can make it better, we are better. A presdient that understands that you need to lay out things for the dolts in the media and make them think and carry your message and explain why lower taxes are good for all. Lower taxes = lower costs= higher demand= more goods made= more jobs= Lower un-employment= higher wages.
Higher taxes = higher prices = lower demand = fewer goods made or stocked= fewer jobs= Higher un employment =lower wages.
A true conservitive pointing out that the EPA and the Democrats with the leftist governemnt is stopping union jobs, they are anti construction, anit mining, anti refining, anti manufacturing, and anti transportation. All middle class jobs.

Never gonna happen....With each election the numbers of folks who are wanting (and getting) something for free grows. If you spent as much time with these people as I do, you'd know that conservatives are almost extinct. They will be when we are gone. Pick your battles or lose the war. Obama's biggest supporters are union employees. They are not conservatives.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #98 on:** April 10, 2012, 03:18:29 AM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 09, 2012, 02:52:45 PM

You guys seem so fond of analogy, maybe this will help.

40% want to vote for Satan.

40% want to vote for the Golden Calf.

20% want to vote for Moses.

Should the 20% throw their vote to to the Calf because "he's better than Satan"?

Remember, this is an analogy about principles...............

EXACTLY....YOU ARE RIGHT

Swampman · « **Reply #99 on:** April 10, 2012, 03:58:33 AM »

Except that they are all satan.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #100 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:25:03 AM »

Quote from: Singleshotsam on April 10, 2012, 02:14:37 AM

I find it sad that so many of you think that electing "the right" president will magically fix things. Pun intended btw.

And to mcwoodduck and cuts, it's more like this...

43% want socialism.
40% want socialism, but with a nicer name on it. Like Republican or "Vote out Obama"
11% still care what happens.
6% could care less.

83% of voters will pound their chest and drone on and on endlessly about how righteous their views are. 11% can see through all the mass media hype and actually care about what kind of country their children and grandchildren will inherit and 6% still could care less what happnes...

Like it or not, with a guy like Romney running your still looking at another 4 years of Obama. May as well resolve to do whatever is possible to elect a Republican majority into Congress to block Obama as best as we can until the Republicans finally unite under a candidate that actually gives a damn about this country. Not a candidate that promises the same social reform as the current guy.

I actually think is is more like this.
31% are sheep and vote how they are told by the Union, the Media, and their friends. And do not understand why or what they are voting for. Thye like the sound bites.
4% are communists
5% are socialists
45% are conservitives and care and understand what they are voting.
5% are conservitives following great sound bites.

Let me ask this if Ron Paul is the only true conservitive and constitutionalist. Why do we not hear from him on the senate floor? Why are we not hearing about the Paul return to a republic bill?

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #101 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:31:36 AM »

Quote from: mcwoodduck on April 10, 2012, 04:25:03 AM

[Let me ask this if Ron Paul is the only true conservitive and constitutionalist. Why do we not hear from him on the senate floor? Why are we not hearing about the Paul return to a republic bill?

We do, but his voice is drowned out by the neocons and the socialists.....with lots of help from the media.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #102 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:18:19 AM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 10, 2012, 04:31:36 AM

Quote from: mcwoodduck on April 10, 2012, 04:25:03 AM
[Let me ask this if Ron Paul is the only true conservitive and constitutionalist. Why do we not hear from him on the senate floor? Why are we not hearing about the Paul return to a republic bill?

We do, but his voice is drowned out by the neocons and the socialists.....with lots of help from the media.

Congressional record says different.

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #103 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:24:35 AM »

Really?......then show us the record. I can recall Paul being very eloquent on the floor of the senate, but being ignored because he speaks the truth. Something the neocons and liberals both hate, along witgh the media. Also, one doesn't have to be repetitious with the truth it kinda speaks for itself, so one doesn't have to do a lot of carrying on like the lying left and the neocons do.

But do show us the record, since you brought it up.

lakota · « **Reply #104 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:24:47 AM »

Now that they now we will swallow the likes of ObRomaney maybe the RNC will run a Chelsea Clinton ticket in 2016.

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #105 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:33:22 AM »

Quote from: lakota on April 10, 2012, 08:24:47 AM

Now that they now we will swallow the likes of ObRomaney maybe the RNC will run a Chelsea Clinton ticket in 2016.

There's just enough truth in that statement to be truely scarey! But I can envision the day, in the not so distant future, when the socialistrepublibs look back fondly on the days of the more conservative presidents......like Obama! Who will seem conservative compared to what the neocons are going to shove on us soon.

lakota · « **Reply #106 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:34:57 AM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 10, 2012, 08:33:22 AM

Quote from: lakota on April 10, 2012, 08:24:47 AM
Now that they now we will swallow the likes of ObRomaney maybe the RNC will run a Chelsea Clinton ticket in 2016.

There's just enough truth in that statement to be truely scarey! But I can envision the day, in the not so distant future, when the socialistrepublibs look back fondly on the days of the more conservative presidents......like Obama! Who will seem conservative compared to what the neocons are going to shove on us soon.

This is my major concern here-"Who are they going to stuff down our throats next time?"

Matt · « **Reply #107 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:44:56 AM »

Quote from: mcwoodduck on April 10, 2012, 04:25:03 AM

Let me ask this if Ron Paul is the only true conservitive and constitutionalist. Why do we not hear from him on the senate floor? Why are we not hearing about the Paul return to a republic bill?

Because he is a Congressman not a Senator but he does speak on the House floor.

And all that is needed is a quick list of all the bills sponsored by RP to see that he is trying to Restore the Republic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislation_sponsored_by_Ron_Paul

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #108 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:48:06 AM »

Thanx Matt.

Mcwoodduck, would you liek to add to that?

BUGEYE · « **Reply #109 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:50:33 AM »

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 10, 2012, 08:24:35 AM

But do show us the record, since you brought it up.

It was on the floor of the house. he gave a long speech to get it in the record. besides a steno or two and a temp speaker, he was speaking to an empty chamber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhEwpnhx-w

besides his heavy pork spending, he's kinda like obama in one respect
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/16/ron-paul-bills-taxpayers-50000-for-first-class-flights/

SwampThing762 · « **Reply #110 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:52:22 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on April 08, 2012, 02:51:40 PM

I'm thinking there will never be enough willing to waste their vote to elect somebody as goofy as Ron Paul. Hopefully he'll disappear before November.

Swamp,

He is going to disappear entirely in November; he is giving up his seat in Congress by not running for re-election. As for the pre-November vanish, the news gives him zero time.

ST762

SwampThing762 · « **Reply #111 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:55:02 AM »

Forgot to add, I guess I am in the third party camp, anti-Obama wing. Nobody gonna call me a Muslim sympathizer or Islamophile. Can somebody pass the pork chops and gravy, please?

St762

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #112 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:58:57 AM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on April 10, 2012, 08:50:33 AM

Quote from: Cuts Crooked on April 10, 2012, 08:24:35 AM

But do show us the record, since you brought it up.
It was on the floor of the house. he gave a long speech to get it in the record. besides a steno or two and a temp speaker, he was speaking to an empty chamber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhEwpnhx-w

ROFLMBO!!!! Buggy, you fired yer piece before you checked the target or the back drop! LOL!!!!! Look at matts post.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #113 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:05:53 AM »

in the one I posted, nobody was listening. he uses the microphone to fool his constituents.

ironglow · « **Reply #114 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:14:21 AM »

Looks now like the choice in November will be Obama or Romney,
A) the American or the illegal?

B) Will it be the capitalist or the communist,

C0 The industry leader or the "community organizer"

D) The uniter or the divider

E) The tax reducer or the tax raiser

F) The conservative or the marxist

G) The business encourager of the business destroyer

H) The inclusionary or the racist etc, etc, etc, etc
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
From a wise man of about 2,600 years ago..

The Eagle and the Arrow
An Aesop's Fable

An Eagle was soaring through the air when suddenly it heard the whizz of an Arrow, and felt itself wounded to death. Slowly it fluttered down to the earth, with its life-blood pouring out of it. Looking down upon the Arrow with which it had been pierced, it found that the shaft of the Arrow had been feathered with one of its own plumes.
"Alas!" it cried, as it died:
Moral of Aesops Fable: We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #115 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:23:43 AM »

I) The socialist gun grabber or the socialist gun grabber

Matt · « **Reply #116 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:23:48 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on April 10, 2012, 09:14:21 AM

Looks now like the choice in November will be Obama or Romney,
A) the American or the illegal?

B) Will it be the capitalist or the communist,

C0 The industry leader or the "community organizer"

D) The uniter or the divider

E) The tax reducer or the tax raiser

F) The conservative or the marxist

G) The business encourager of the business destroyer

H) The inclusionary or the racist etc, etc, etc, etc
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
From a wise man of about 2,600 years ago..

The Eagle and the Arrow
An Aesop's Fable

An Eagle was soaring through the air when suddenly it heard the whizz of an Arrow, and felt itself wounded to death. Slowly it fluttered down to the earth, with its life-blood pouring out of it. Looking down upon the Arrow with which it had been pierced, it found that the shaft of the Arrow had been feathered with one of its own plumes.
"Alas!" it cried, as it died:
Moral of Aesops Fable: We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction

Looks to me like you are saying the Eagle has the choice to be killed by its Left wing or Right wing.... Both are still going to kill the Eagle.
Also I do not understand how you can claim Romney is:
A Uniter?
A Tax Reducer?
A Conservative?
A Business Encourager?
Also WHY WOULD YOU VOTE A BILLIONAIRE INTO THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND?

Matt

Swampman · « **Reply #117 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:38:11 AM »

If he would stop talking, he would have a better chance of getting elected.

Cuts Crooked · « **Reply #118 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:40:06 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on April 10, 2012, 09:38:11 AM

If he would stop talking, he would have a better chance of getting elected.

Love it!!!!! The neocons will take either side, as it suits em!

BUGEYE · « **Reply #119 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:45:25 AM »

Quote from: Matt on April 10, 2012, 09:23:48 AM

Also WHY WOULD YOU VOTE A BILLIONAIRE INTO THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND?

Matt

we don't have some class envy do we??
first off, he's not a billionaire, just millionaire. and since he can get along nicely on what he has "which he earned" he won't be as susceptable to bribes as mere thousandaires.
It's obvious that RP is not going to be the nominee, so why can't we come together and try to defeat a man with known communist links. this country could go from a republic to something like the old USSR in a matter of months.
Why does anyone want that?

?

oh, and the moral in IGs poem is lost on most folks...