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Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« on: March 28, 2012, 06:56:04 AM »
 :)  Howdy! I want to explore the concept that was mentioned in a previous topic regarding Bigfoot crossing in and out of another dimension, etc. Keeping in mind that we currently have little information that may explain this; I want to explore how this may can happen. First, does Bigfoot cross in and out of this other dimension into ours at will? Does Bigfoot knowingly opens the door and comes thru then exits when it wants to? Second, does Bigfoot have or may have an extra organ in its body that allows dimensional jumping, etc? Third, can we also find these "doors" to another dimension and use them similar to what Bigfoot is doing now? Fourth, is it possible that some other entity or alien is sending Bigfoot our way as a big experiment to learn more about our planet, etc.?  Always, Gene
 
 
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 07:21:33 AM »
don't remember who it was, but someone asked why bigfoot only shows up in the woods.
why not a walmart parking lot?
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 07:58:30 AM »
The alternate dimensions exist in our minds. Awake vs. dream state is one example easily understood. The fact that your brain tells you that you are seeing something does not make it there. Witness the induced blindness discussed in another thread.


I have mentioned before that my wife is blind. She has found herself running into things that are not there. Conversely she has tried to walk into or through doorways that she could "see". The results are less than spectacular. Her mind played a trick on her and told her there was a doorway where one did not exist. She had not been blind for all that long, and honestly thought she was seeing a doorway. That she was seeing it even surprised her at the time.


People want to believe that vision works like a camera. Your eye is indeed the lens of the camera. Your retina the film if you will. Your brain is the lab where that film is developed, where the data is analyzed and a determination of what that data best represents. Note the use of best represents, not is, and there is a difference.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 08:11:10 AM »
The alternate dimensions exist in our minds. Awake vs. dream state is one example easily understood. The fact that your brain tells you that you are seeing something does not make it there. Witness the induced blindness discussed in another thread.
 
Howdy! The commonly used drug "nortriptyline" can prolong the "fugue" state. This seems to happen when trying to sleep. You can see people, shadows, and other things that are not there and can be scary. Always, Gene
 
 
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 10:30:32 AM »
can i participate in this discussion ?
 

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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 11:24:28 AM »
can i participate in this discussion ?

Howdy! Yes, indeed! Tell us what you know!
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 11:24:38 AM »
can i participate in this discussion ?
I believe you are. Though not by very much :D
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 12:26:24 PM »
bugeye mentioned my statement of why does BF only show up in the woods..
 people still have genes that allow thier minds to see patterns and assess dangers real or imagined, its a hold over from the neolithic era, most valuable when people were still considered prey. so, today when we are in the woods, tired and cold or lost, the mind fires and hormones kick in, those left over genes "go to work" so to speak and people see BF in the shadows.. nothing more to it really.

alternate dimensions..  or the multi ( many ) worlds concept of quantum physics, is to this point pure speculation. even top minds like steven hawking is only guessing and no viable data for other dimension exist.  however if BF traveled thru a rift here is what we'd actually be referring to a spacial dimesion.
  dimesion theories such as the string theory suggest that physical space has 10  dimensions .These dimensions are spatial meaning realtive to each other by a measurement. However, we perceive only three spatial dimensions ( height, width,  and length ) along with time, and up to current scientific knowledge  no experimental or observed evidence( thru the scientific method )  is available to confirm or even suggest the existence of any extra dimensions..
 First, does Bigfoot cross in and out of this other dimension into ours at will?
no because BF as a biological natural creature does not exist in reality.

Does Bigfoot knowingly opens the door and comes thru then exits when it wants to?
no BF cannot control hypathetical dimensional doorway for the above reasons.

Second, does Bigfoot have or may have an extra organ in its body that allows dimensional jumping, etc?
no, because an biological organ could not control hypathetical quantum physics
so, i wont continue to answer these very valid questions in the negative, because my answers will be the same, for the above data suggests if and thats one huge if, dimensions via quantum dynamics exist, there would be no way to study or test it.
i.e. you cannot see a quantum particle , observe its location and see it movement to and from that location..

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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 12:46:21 PM »
:)  Howdy! I want to explore the concept that was mentioned in a previous topic regarding Bigfoot crossing in and out of another dimension, etc. Keeping in mind that we currently have little information that may explain this; I want to explore how this may can happen. First, does Bigfoot cross in and out of this other dimension into ours at will? Does Bigfoot knowingly opens the door and comes thru then exits when it wants to? Second, does Bigfoot have or may have an extra organ in its body that allows dimensional jumping, etc? Third, can we also find these "doors" to another dimension and use them similar to what Bigfoot is doing now? Fourth, is it possible that some other entity or alien is sending Bigfoot our way as a big experiment to learn more about our planet, etc.?  Always, Gene
1. No
2. No
3. We can find them, but we can't enter them
4. Not an alien, perhaps an entity investigating prior to inpending judgement.
 
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 12:49:18 PM »
don't remember who it was, but someone asked why bigfoot only shows up in the woods.
why not a walmart parking lot?

That was explained....extra dimensional beings show up all over the place.  They don't always look the same.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 01:11:57 PM »
Scibaer,  couldn't find it and couldn't remember who,  but I try to give credit.
however, I think I saw Mrs. bigfoot at walmart wearing a tank top and tights.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 02:14:51 PM »
no problem bugeye. i really wasnt looking for the credit, just making a factual post
i was just going step by step addressing the OP's questions.

see, you had the chance to bag us a BF and you blew it , lol  ;D
now , the real question is, does walmart stores in extra dimensions have better deals ?  ???

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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 02:27:13 PM »
I'm not guessing.....
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2012, 03:22:57 PM »
 :)  Howdy! So what are we supposed to do if we encounter a Bigfoot while walking through the woods? If it is a figment of our imagination, then we won't feel the pain if it chunks a rock and hits us? Should we attempt to communicate with it? What will be 'your actions' if you see a Bigfoot while walking through the woods? Always, Gene
 
 
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2012, 03:47:36 PM »
It's not a figment of your imagination.  I plan on getting a picture myself.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2012, 06:20:52 PM »
Well, because we are both predators, I plan on putting a hole in him.  Larry
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 10:04:24 PM »
well if BF is a flesh and blood animal, then putting a hole in it, i.e. killing one is really the only way to prove it.
meaning, science needs a body for dna collection, biological and physical description and examination.

photos are not proof. we have hundreds of fuzzy out of focus pics of bloobs , shadows and images of things we cant describe. we have alot of recordings of screams and howls, tracks and hairs ( that always turn out to be some known animal on further testing ) and it all mean absolutely nothing because the scientific method needs viable repeatable testable data and a biological description needs a body.
anything else is guesswork, speculation and self deluded "belief".
thats the same reason quantum physics is not science fact, its not testable.
pictures of a shadowy blob are useless for that reason.


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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2012, 11:41:40 PM »
That's all well and good but they are out there.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2012, 11:04:14 AM »
So what are we supposed to do if we encounter a Bigfoot while walking through the woods? If it is a figment of our imagination, then we won't feel the pain if it chunks a rock and hits us? Should we attempt to communicate with it? What will be 'your actions' if you see a Bigfoot while walking through the woods?

Gene.. well those are some good questions. to answer them in whole i'll say this. BF is a figment of imagination created by our minds in response to specific stimulus ( part of the reason that BF is always seen in the woods, not on main street ) 
 my personal response ? 2 rounds to the center of mass. having said that, i think BF does not exist as real animal.
 of all the BF hunters out there, no one has been hit by thrown rocks, made any communications and encounters are usually of the type of BF fleeing and getting away from the human presence asap.


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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2012, 11:17:36 AM »
Rock throwing is pretty common.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2012, 11:41:35 AM »
There are plenty of people who have gone into the woods never to be seen again.  Who knows what really happened, could have just run across a hungry Bigfoot and become an after dinner snack.  Remember guys, this thing is a predator, eyes in the front of the head looking forward, just like you.  Larry 
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2012, 12:20:27 PM »
Well, because we are both predators, I plan on putting a hole in him.  Larry

 
What if the BF is really a man in a suit?
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2012, 12:27:42 PM »
Well, because we are both predators, I plan on putting a hole in him.  Larry

 
What if the BF is really a man in a suit?

A preacher?
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2012, 12:35:59 PM »
Well, because we are both predators, I plan on putting a hole in him.  Larry

 
What if the BF is really a man in a suit?

A preacher?

 
A man in a BF suit.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2012, 04:30:00 PM »
Well then, I guess it is like Forrest Gump said, "you can't fix stupid".  Larry
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2012, 05:09:20 PM »
 :)  Howdy! I said previously that some of the sightings could very well be a man in a ghilly suit going to or from a hunting area and mistakingly identified as Bigfoot. Yes, they have not found a Bigfoot yet. However, a study and search of the kind that would be necessary has not been done. Only enough for a 1 hour TV show once a week for a few weeks per year. Swampman said that we could find the 'doors' but can not use them and that some entity may be controlling the presence of Bigfoot. And Scibaer says that the whole thing is a figment of our imagination. There is much to think about in our search for the truth. If I encounter a Bigfoot I will try to take a picture like Swampman. Always, Gene
 
     
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2012, 06:35:05 PM »
And your picture will prove exactly what all the other pictures have proven, absolutely nothing.  Larry
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2012, 09:44:37 PM »
right, a picture proves nothing other then you had a camera with you.
a picture does not provide the required info that is needed for science .



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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2012, 11:56:51 PM »
Frequenty cameras pick up things we can't see.  I have some interesting photos.
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Re: Searching and not Finding Bigfoot
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2012, 02:26:33 AM »
 :)  Howdy! Some of us may feel guilty if we killed a Bigfoot. I wonder if a tranquilizer dart could be used? A Bigfoot in the flesh, live or dead, would answer a number of questions and allow many scientific tests, etc. Thus, finding and kill or capturing a Bigfoot for further study needs to be the goal. Finding such a creature may lead to its being placed on the endangered species list, etc. Always, Gene
 
 
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