Hitman54-Keith44 + 1 Use Kroil and let it soak, sometimes overnight. Tornado brush's by Hoppe's work faster than standard bristle brush also. If you can't get Tornado brush's, get the next size up in stainless steel.(use .40 for a .357,.45 in a .44) I know that you hear that a stainless brush scratch's , but try this experiment. Run a stainless across your thumb, and really push down hard. Doesn't remove any skin. And, to the best of my knowledge, gun metal is harder than flesh. Trick is to push all the way thru, before bringing back. If you have a gun that a stainless brush scratch's the chamber or barrel, pretty soft metal, what's the bullet doing when you actually shoot the gun?gypsyman