Fitting a Hornet Barrel to an SB1 frame???

[hoytcanon]

I know that H&R says that they will not fit rifle barrels to SB1 frames... is this a fitting issue or a liability issue...?
 
Conversely a shotgun barrel will fit an SB2 frame??? Specifically I am interested in fitting a .22 Hornet barrel to my Tamer SB1 .410 frame... I will be changing the butt stock from the Tamer stock to the standard synthetic (from my Sportster HMR which is now wearing a Boyd's Sterling set)...
 
We use these Tamers as grouse guns... but often stop along our walks and do some predator calling... it would be nice to carry a light Hornet barrel along for a quick change as required...
 
If this option is not feasible, I will likely purchase a synthetic Hornet and try fitting the .410 barrel to the SB2 receiver... but my first choice is to use the nickel receiver from the Tamer...
 
Thoughts on my options??? 

[oldsoldja]

Liability. Id say anything from a30-30 and under can go on it. 42000 cup on down. 22 hornet, no problem, thats only 25000. I do it. But as a disclaimer, Ill say do it at your own risk.
 
 
http://www.lasc.us/SAAMIMaxPressure.htm

[quickdtoo]

H&R won't because they haven't done the required testing, they do fit some rifle barrels to SB1 frames, 357 and 44 mags, both were market driven by the change in 2008 for Indiana deer hunting regs which allowed pistol chambered rifles, there's no market incentive for H&R to spend the $20k that it costs for testing of the Hornet.

As for fitting your own, it may work fine, but primer problems will likely be a problem with a Hornet barrel on a shotgun SB1 frame due to the large firing pin with primer flow into the frame particularly with pistol primers which are popular for the Hornet, I still got cratered primers on mine both on an SB1 frame and on an SB2 shotgun frame, both have large pins, SR primers may help to prevent the problem. Modern SB1 357 and 44 mag frames have small rifle type firing pins.

Tim

[quickdtoo]

Liability. Id say anything from a30-30 and under can go on it. 42000 cup on down. 22 hornet, no problem, thats only 25000. I do it. But as a disclaimer, Ill say do it at your own risk.
 
 
http://www.lasc.us/SAAMIMaxPressure.htm

The SAAMI pressure standard for the Hornet is 43kcup(see Hodgdon data), not to be confused with the 42kPSI of the 30-30.

Tim

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm

http://www.frfrogspad.com/miscellk.htm#pressure

[manatee1947]

I bought a neat little 410  with a case hrdened receiver, PW stock and schnabel forend. My hornet barrel fit perfectly. I use sm rifle primers also. Groups shrank from 1.25 to .75, works like  a charm. my loads are 9 gr of 4227 and a 50 gr psp, and 11 gr 4227 and 34 gr dogtown hp's . No problems whatsoever. 

[hoytcanon]

Well this information is "kinda" good to hear... So as I understand it, there should be no mechanical fitting problems (only minor fitting required) using a .22 Hornet barrel on my Nickel .410 Tamer frame, BUT there may be a problem with the larger firing pin not functioning properly with Hornet primers...
 
My problem is...I do not reload... so I am unable to cook a specific load to alleviate the large firing pin problem... so my next question is; "Is anyone aware of a specific factory .22 Hornet load that "should" function well with the large firing pin on the .410 Tamer receiver???

[quickdtoo]

The fitting of the barrel is like any other second hand barrel, it may fit with little or no work, or require a lot of work, they aren't one size fits all and can't be considered interchangable like a Contender or Encore, frame and barrel dimensions can vary a lot, this is all covered in the FAQs.

Tim

[hoytcanon]

The fitting of the barrel is like any other second hand barrel, it may fit with little or no work, or require a lot of work, they aren't one size fits all and can't be considered interchangable like a Contender or Encore, frame and barrel dimensions can vary a lot, this is all covered in the FAQs.
Tim

Yes... that is why I indicated Minor fitting... I have fitted a number of barrels to my H&R frames... But never a rifle barrel to an SB1 receiver... thats why I am asking.... I was interested if there were problems "OTHER THAN" those normally encountered... as to ammunition with a large firing pin... we intend to shoot Hornady Predator Custom .22 Hornet 35 grain V-Max ammo... does anyone have experience or an opinion on how these will function with a barrel on an SB1 receiver?

[quickdtoo]

Can't help ya with the Hornet factory ammo, I wouldn't own a Hornet if I didn't handload for it, ammo is just too spendy. 

Tim

[twoshooter]

The only way to tell for sure is try some, but the only problem of the larger firing pin is if you have a real high pressure load there may be some flow of the primer into the firing pin hole. With my loads described above, using rifle primers, there was absolutely no pressure signs. Come to think of it, there were no craters or flat small pistol primers either, the rifle just shot better with Sm rifle.  I would certainly try some.