Your 'full case of black' can vary by quite a bit, depending on the grade powder you use 1,2,or 3 Fg (dont use 4F), and the brand. If you insist on black, and the fouling issues and clean up, thats fine, but I decided I would keep all that for my muzzleloaders and happily use a full case (behind the bullet, of course) Trail Boss (and Im not the only one, in spite of some nayer(s), it is a ballistic match and burns clean.