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Offline Yellowriver

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Need a little help on tender carbine "204 Ruger on the way"
« on: January 03, 2012, 04:20:33 PM »
I have the idea to put together a tender carbine.
Thinking of 17,20,6mm or a 25. Fire forming and reloading is ok as, adds to the fun.
Need butt stock and forend. Would like to get wood that I can finish myself.
So any ideas on wood or barrel let me know.
I'm open to ideas as long as it is accurate in the 18"-23" barrel.

I have bought a 23" factory 204 barrel and now I'm looking for some factory loads or handloads for yotes. Way to much info on the web aboat this. All I want is the best bullet chioces for dogs and as light as I can go and still drop them.

Thanks Yellowriver

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 04:42:15 AM »
It would be a big help if you could tell us what the intended use for the gun was? Targets? Hunting, and what game? Intended ranges (distances)?, etc, etc...

The more information you give us, the more useful your replies will be.

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 09:46:55 AM »
Go to gunstocksinc for your unfinished stock set. If for large game hogs/deer a 6.5JDJ, 6.5 Bullbery,7x30 Waters, 30-30,35 Rem, 375 Win or the 45/70 would work.
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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 02:48:04 PM »
Thanks for the advice guys. I will explain a little better. I live in the NE corner of Iowa so the only legal game is yotes and crows.
I have a 12" 375 win, 14" 7mm TCU and 14" 17 HMR. Love shooting all of them just wanting a carbine or rifle barrel to play with and maybe something my son can start shooting. I also have a 26" Encore barrel that will shoot under .25" if I do. Range is around 200-300 yds. I also have a CZ in .223 that is very trusted. So the more I think about it the 204 or a hot rod .17 might be my choice. Don't want to double up on cailbers so that is why I explained. Thanks Yeloowriver

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 11:35:10 PM »
I'd go for the 204 Ruger.  It will more than do what you want it to and a .20 caliber barrel is easier to clean than a .17 caliber barrel.


I have a factory 204 Ruger barrel on my Contender that has become one of my favorites.  I've used it with excellent success on raccoons, crows, groundhogs, coyote and deer even to ranges in excess of 300 yards.

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 08:29:40 AM »
NE Iowa has some gorgeous unspoiled countryside with wide open spaces, I'm just south of you in east central Iowa. Either the 17 or the 20 I believe would work well for you up there. I don't own a 20 cal but I would have to give it the edge for some of the long shots that area is going offer. Plus the wind seems to howl all the time in this state anymore.

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 10:34:41 AM »
You can get unfinished stock sets from Bullberry in any grade of wood you want, from utility to exhibition, and made to your specs/dolled up anyway you want.   Even his utility grades are usually heads above select grades from others, so they are a very cheap option in unfinished for a custom set.    It takes is time with this shop though, how much depending on how many sets are ahead of you as he usually only has one stock maker on his crew.
 
The "hot rod" 17's would be great for your uses, and since you are willing to do the wildcats there are lots of choices for 17 tack drivers.  You just have to pick the ones best suited to your game and ranges.   IOW, some that would be dynamite for crows at 300 yards wouldn't be for coyotes that far.   But lots of them would be good choices for both to 300.
 
My personal list of 17’s that are safely doable on the Contender Platform has well over 50 entries.   But for both crow and coyotes at 300  in one barrel I'd probably pick one of those based on the 221 Fireball, 222 Rem, 222 Rem Mag, 223 Rem or 30-30 parent cases I think.  Most are real easy wildcats, some do require more effort, but all can be very effective at that range.   A 20" is usually a great length for Contender carbines/rifles.    They balance well, have good harmonics for most cartridges and help a little with the slow lock time.   I live in the windy west's wide open spaces, and contrary to popular belief the 17's cut the wind pretty well.    So the 20's don't really have anything on them IMO.
 
Have a fairly long list of other sub calibers for the Contenders as well in 12, 14, 19 and 20 calibers, but I prefer the 17's myself (even for the coyotes).
 
Whatever you go for you will be opening a door that most likely will take you on to other wildcats as well, and even more custom barrels.    Most of them are lots of fun, but some can be a real PITA to make brass for, especially when you do them in the numbers I used to.   I learned the hard way NOT to take on too many new ones in short periods of time.   Takes all the fun out of it and makes it a chore.
 
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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 05:19:11 PM »
blue 23" 204 for $190 shipped. Sounds pretty good? Looking at custom stock sets and I'm going to need all the $$ I got saved for that. May have to settle for comp stock. Any ideas on a good one of those? Seen a few but have not had hands on any. thanks again guys

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 04:36:02 AM »
     My favorite carbine stock set has become an ambidextrious thumb hole camo synthetic job from Bell & Carlson.  I've not seen many like it, but I really like mine....and that's from the 'ol coot who said he'd never have or want anything but wood ::)
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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine "204 Ruger on the way"
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2012, 04:07:33 AM »
Revised Please BTTT

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Re: Need a little help on tender carbine "204 Ruger on the way"
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2012, 04:23:43 AM »
These stocks don't look too bad:


http://www.highplainsgunstocks.com/stock%20example%20page.htm


These stocks are VEERY nice but pricey.  I had my hands on a Contender stocked with one and lusted greatly.


http://luxusgunstock.com/stocker/