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wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« on: December 21, 2011, 04:08:52 PM »
Wisconsin’s long fought battle to manage growing wolf populations within its borders is nearly overNews Release Published: December 21, 2011 by the [/color]Central OfficeContact(s): Bill Cosh, DNR spokesperson – (608) 267-2773MADISON -- With the announcement today that the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service is [/color]removing the gray wolf from Endangered Species Act protection (exit DNR), Wisconsin’s long fought battle to manage growing wolf populations within its borders is nearly over. Gov. Scott Walker has charged the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources with being ready to begin implementing Wisconsin’s Wolf Management plan by Feb. 1, 2012.“We are eager and ready to take on the challenges of wolf management,” said DNR Secretary Cathy Stepp. “We appreciate Governor Walker’s attention to this issue.”More information about the [/color]gray wolf in Wisconsin and a copy of the Wisconsin Wolf Management Plan are available on the DNR website.Stepp also thanked the [/color]U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (exit DNR) for their responsiveness to the concerns that she raised, especially with regard to their finding that the population of wolves in the Western Great Lakes is a single species. In addition, she praised the work of Wisconsin’s Congressional Delegation and that of Michigan and Minnesota in raising the importance of addressing this issue now at the national level.“I want to acknowledge the citizens of Wisconsin for their patience as we worked on the delisting,” said Stepp. “They were persistent in bringing their concerns to my attention. It is because of that persistence that we were able to achieve the delisting.”Today’s action is only the first step in the process. Once wolves are delisted, the DNR will be able to do depredation controls, via trapping and permits to landowners in depredation areas.“While the department is committed to long-term conservation of wolves in Wisconsin, it is critical that we be allowed to manage wildlife populations within our borders,” said Stepp.[/t][/color][/color][/size][/size][/font]
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 04:52:48 PM »
So, will they offer wolf tags to interested hunters?

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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 05:27:21 PM »
Without the proctection from lawsuits via federal legislation like Montana and Idaho have , the delisting will be just another bump in the road. We've been going thru this here in Wyoming since they transplanted those Canadian Wolves into Yellowstone.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 05:56:18 PM »
Way I heard the story, they were going to delist all wolves in the lower 48. Of course I'm probably just hearing what I want to hear. Who can believe anything on the news.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 02:01:08 AM »
This re-introduction of wolves has always made me nervous. Here's an animal, a predator, that can weigh upwards of 120 pounds and can bring down an elk. You get a year when there is an increase in the numbers of wolves and a drop in thier food supply and suddenly we are on the menu. Delisting the wolf is good in so many ways.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 02:06:09 AM »
Quote from: bilmac on December 21, 2011, 05:56:18 PM
Way I heard the story, they were going to delist all wolves in the lower 48. Of course I'm probably just hearing what I want to hear. Who can believe anything on the news.

The anti's are claiming that there is an isolated wolf population that is genetically different and as such needs to be protected. And since this population looks physically identical to a normal wolf...then all wolves must be protected inorder to protect this special population. The other side of the discussion is based on hard science...samples have been taken and there is no genetic deviation in this isloated population. Using modern scientific methods, no genetic variation can be detected. It would appear that the courts agree...and now wolves are being delisted.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 03:22:42 AM »
Quote from: ihookem on December 21, 2011, 04:08:52 PM
”Today’s action is only the first step in the process. Once wolves are delisted, the DNR will be able to do depredation controls, via trapping and permits to landowners in depredation areas.“While the department is committed to long-term conservation of wolves in Wisconsin, it is critical that we be allowed to manage wildlife populations within our borders,” said Stepp.[quote]


Sounds like a hunting season and tags are not in the works. What is described sounds about like what is being done in Mn. already. Prove a problem with livestock and you receive permission to take care of the problem from the DNR. The state had paid "hunters" in the past but budget concerns eliminated that.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 04:57:05 AM »
Hmmm.  The state can pay money to hire sharpshooters to kill a few wolves - just to remain on the good side of political correctness.  Or the state can take in money from thousands of hunters willing to submit $3 application fees for years just to get a kill tag.
 
I wonder which the state will choose?
 
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Here's an animal, a predator, that can weigh upwards of 120 pounds and can bring down an elk. You get a year when there is an increase in the numbers of wolves and a drop in thier food supply and suddenly we are on the menu. Delisting the wolf is good in so many ways.

Are you suggesting that the wolf ought to be extirpated base on these concerns?  I would disagree.  If you compare the wolf to the black bear you'll see that these fears are unrealistic.  The bear can grow well beyond 600#s and we have PLENTY of documentation of black bears indeed eating people AND we have way more of them in the state.  Yet no one is calling for the elimination of black bears.
 
I say start issuing wolf tags.  In a few short years there will be a "Wisconsin Wolf Hunters Association".  I suspect the problems with dogs getting attacked will end pretty quickly once the wolves learn that is a good way to get shot. 
 
Besides, I think a wolf pelt would make an awesome ice-fishing hat.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 05:15:42 AM »
The Bible talks about wild animals roaming the earth terrorizing the people again in the last days. I always thought that was probably symbolic language but there were on the order of a dozen griz attacks in the Yellowstone area last year, and several people were killed.
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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 07:47:29 AM »
"Besides, I think a wolf pelt would make an awesome ice-fishing hat."

I agree, very much.

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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 05:53:19 AM »
Quote from: Cheesehead on January 06, 2012, 07:47:29 AM
"Besides, I think a wolf pelt would make an awesome ice-fishing hat."

I agree, very much.

Cheese

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Re: wolves in Wisconsin going off the list!!!!!!!! maybe
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 03:33:05 AM »
WHAAAAT!! :o  You mean there "NOT" off the list!!!!!!!! ???  OH OH!!!!!!! :-X
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