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Offline Scotpirate

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Cleaning after firing
« on: November 20, 2011, 02:54:39 PM »
Any suggestions on cleaning the barrel of a 1-1/2" bore 5/8th scale carronade after firing a few times?  Hot soapy Water and let dry?  Any swabbing with oil?  The Cannon has a steel liner.

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 03:35:19 PM »
Oiling exposed metal would be a good idea.  Presumably it is mostly painted.
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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 03:48:43 PM »
i use  hot water and  murphys oil soap i also use a flue brush as a scrubber
then i take a rag dipped in cooking oil and rub it inside and out and then  the next day i wide that clean but then again i dont live in a wet climate

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 04:52:37 PM »
Scotpirate --

WELCOME to the board!

I use hot soapy water, dry it off and oil it.

Some folks use a water-antifreeze solution (it works) - keeps the crud suspended in solution and prevents rust.

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 02:57:43 AM »
I come from a muzzle loading back ground and some members have started using a product called Purple Power.  Simple green, anti-freeze, and dish soap are all things I've used.  I use boiling water so my barrels dry quickly.  My favorite is actually Murphy's oil soap as mentioned before.  Renderings are my favorite for primitive but I use light oil or WD-40 (do not spray it on).
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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 04:52:14 AM »
You will find as many cleaning method as there are cannon shooters, some are better than others, none are bad.

Me  I use an antifreeze solution on the range for swabbing.  Then when I get home, it is a garden hose down the bore, s scrub with a swab, dry and spray WD 40 all over everything.  That is followed by a nice  IPA.

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 05:10:17 AM »
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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 06:06:10 AM »
       Scotpirate,   We use hot soapy water, dry and hose down with WD-40 after firing like thousands of other folks who maintain their cannons in a rust-free condition.  What lots of competition shooters will not tell you is that there is a secret cleaning process they use after each shot DURING THE CONTEST.  This technique uses basic chemistry to reduce one important variable.  This technique affects consistency of shot to shot velocity.  Velocity is very important in obtaining accuracy and should be kept as consistent from shot to shot as possible. We have always weighed each powder charge on a scale before loading our aluminum foil cartridge to reduce the velocity variable.

      So, even if you do not compete with your cannon, if you want the best possible groups, reduce the velocity variable by using an  Alcohol sponge AFTER your regular DRY sponge After your regular WET sponge between shots.  As most of you already know, DRY sponges don't stay DRY for very long!

                           WHY USE ALCOHOL??          Basic chemistry.  Alcohol will dissolve water in any proportion and vice versa.  Ethanol, (grain alcohol) works best.  PGA (pure grain alcohol) is inexpensive and available at any liquor store. Yes they will combine in your alcohol sponge and all remaining water will be extracted from the bore.      SO WHAT???    Why is this important?    Water forces part of the powder's energy to be wasted as it is used to convert the liquid water into STEAM.  SO WHAT?   With a portion of it's energy used up, the energy available to push the cannon projectile down the tube is reduced which, in turn, reduces the projo's velocity causing it to hit the target lower expanding the group's size.  That's why.

      A very experienced BP artillery competitor friend told us this about 5 years ago and it is logical and makes sense to us.  We Have not had the time to check it out with lots of experiments, but it's on the list of things to do. Retirement is less than 2 years away now!

Tracy and Mike
     

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With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 06:27:32 AM »
                    Retirement is less than 2 years away now!

Tracy and Mike

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Ok pop,  What are you going to do after you retire?  Build more cannons I hope. :)

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 06:35:17 AM »
       Scotpirate,   We use hot soapy water, dry and hose down with WD-40 after firing like thousands of other folks who maintain their cannons in a rust-free condition.  What lots of competition shooters will not tell you is that there is a secret cleaning process they use after each shot DURING THE CONTEST.  This technique uses basic chemistry to reduce one important variable.  This technique affects consistency of shot to shot velocity.  Velocity is very important in obtaining accuracy and should be kept as consistent from shot to shot as possible. We have always weighed each powder charge on a scale before loading our aluminum foil cartridge to reduce the velocity variable.

      So, even if you do not compete with your cannon, if you want the best possible groups, reduce the velocity variable by using an  Alcohol sponge AFTER your regular DRY sponge After your regular WET sponge between shots.  As most of you already know, DRY sponges don't stay DRY for very long!

                           WHY USE ALCOHOL??          Basic chemistry.  Alcohol will dissolve water in any proportion and vice versa.  Ethanol, (grain alcohol) works best.  PGA (pure grain alcohol) is inexpensive and available at any liquor store. Yes they will combine in your alcohol sponge and all remaining water will be extracted from the bore.      SO WHAT???    Why is this important?    Water forces part of the powder's energy to be wasted as it is used to convert the liquid water into STEAM.  SO WHAT?   With a portion of it's energy used up, the energy available to push the cannon projectile down the tube is reduced which, in turn, reduces the projo's velocity causing it to hit the target lower expanding the group's size.  That's why.

      A very experienced BP artillery competitor friend told us this about 5 years ago and it is logical and makes sense to us.  We Have not had the time to check it out with lots of experiments, but it's on the list of things to do. Retirement is less than 2 years away now!

Tracy and Mike
     

I use acetone. 
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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 06:50:02 AM »
    We are going full circle, Dom.   A hobby became an avocation and it became a vocation and upon retirement it will become a full time hobby with all the freedom that pursuing a hobby entails!  We are not sculptors or artists, but we would like to express our creativity a bit by building cannons that have interested us for years and years.  A bigger mortar might be nice.   ::)

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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 07:18:31 AM »
Quick note: Water Displacement formula 40 when sprayed in a very fine mist will trap atmospheric moisture under a layer of oil.  This will show up in two to three days as a layer of surface rust.  When applying WD-40 spray on rag and then wipe onto metal. 
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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 09:44:55 AM »
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Re: Cleaning after firing
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 03:25:31 PM »
                    Retirement is less than 2 years away now!

Tracy and Mike

/quote]
 
Ok pop,  What are you going to do after you retire?  Build more cannons I hope. :)


Might just find time to clean some of those cannons/mortars ....

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