I have run across exactly 2 of the Topper 30-30 guns. They both now live at my house. One has the original stock set, short forearm style, and peeps off a BC. It loves cast bullets and much less than max loads. The other is on a SB-2 receiver, Monte Carlo stock, skinny forend off of a 410 topper, and a 4X32 Nikon. It shoots anything well. I had 2 of the newer style 30-30's as well, they don't live there anymore. They shot as well as the old ones, just weighed a lot more, and not as much fun.