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Offline OldSchoolRanger

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Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:42:16 PM »
Not sure, if this belongs in this forum or the optics forum, but here goes.  Nikon has a new scope called the Omega in 1.65x5 power, with a BDC designed for black powder guns.  The eye relief is 5", I believe that this is more than sufficient to prevent scope eye brow on a 45/70. 
My question is; do you think this scope designed with a BDC (bullet drop compensator) for black powder would work for a 45/70 since the (rainbow type) trajectory is similar? 
Also do you think the scope would hold up to the pounding of a 45/70 round?
Thanks for any answers and the reason you believe so.


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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 09:32:42 PM »
I have a Nikon Pro Staff 2-7x32 shotgun scope, paralax free at 75 yds. on my Handi 47-70. holds up good so far after over 100 rounds. don't see why a ML scope would'nt be just as good. my .02.
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 09:41:22 PM »
never had much interest in BCDS, sight my rifles at MPBR for the cal. and type of game and don't take shots much beyond that. works for me.
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 01:11:12 AM »
I don't see why it wouldn't work well.  I have standard rifle scopes on both my Huntsman and my .45-70.  Some loads in the .45.70 have a trajectory that are a mirror image of  my hunting load in the Huntsman.  I had a BDC on the .45-70.  It was a cheap scope and I didn't care for it.  I took it off and put a circle X on it and never looked back.  If you shoot a rifle enough, you'll know what your hold over has to be instinctively.  Kinda like shooting a long bow.  A BDC doesn't tell you the distance to the target.  You have to determine that to use it.  I do better without it.  I find the extra horizontal lines distracting. 

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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 12:37:10 PM »
Bought two......................shoot great, excellent clarity, needs high rings.

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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 12:51:43 PM »
Quote from: revbc on October 27, 2011, 12:37:10 PM
Bought two......................shoot great, excellent clarity, needs high rings.

Bobby
RevBobby- I also bought one, couldn't resist the price.  What caliber gun are you using it on?  My question was actually directed at whether you could use the BDC for the 45/70 since the trajectory (rainbows) for long distance shots are quite similar with the BP guns for which this scope was designed.
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 12:54:32 PM »
"quote author=revbc link=topic=243741.msg1099402054#msg1099402054 date=1319755030]
Bought two......................shoot great, excellent clarity, needs high rings.

Bobby"
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I've been trying to talk myself out of one as I'm scope poor now but I think you just put me over the edge, I can't help but imagine how good the camo version would look on a camo handi!
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 04:26:40 AM »
Quote from: tobster on October 27, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
"quote author=revbc link=topic=243741.msg1099402054#msg1099402054 date=1319755030]
Bought two......................shoot great, excellent clarity, needs high rings.

Bobby"
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I've been trying to talk myself out of one as I'm scope poor now but I think you just put me over the edge, I can't help but imagine how good the camo version would look on a camo handi!
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 02:00:25 PM »
should work ok  balistics for the 45_70 are very close to the black powder 150grain loads
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 04:08:20 PM »
The BDC system is useful for all loads in most calibers.  Check out Nikon's web site.
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Re: Black powder scope on a 45/70 Handi?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 04:57:32 PM »
I'd have to say only in the lower trap door level loads would they come close.  I think that unless you are trying to hit beyone 200 yards it doesn't accomplish much to use a BDC personally.  I don't really like scopes though, so maybe you guys disagree.  ;)
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