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high gas prices and good fur prices
« on: August 20, 2011, 04:59:24 PM »
should be interesting year.
 
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Re: high gas prices and good fur prices
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 08:30:40 AM »
 Gas prices are pretty much something we will have to accept.Unless evrything collapses again, I doubt we will see much lower prices on gas.
 But I find it awful funny when guys say they are going to cut back or not trap at all, because of gas prices. Trapping can pay its own way --and more.What about hunting and fishing?
 Tom
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Re: high gas prices and good fur prices
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 03:44:59 PM »
With high gas prices and if you have to use a vehicle to run a long line and the furbearers you have to trap arent paying  a decent price , you will not make money.  You might, i say might make expenses but nothing to live on or even keep maintenance on vehicle and trapping equipment.  Now if you have alot of rats in a small area with last years rat prices , that is another story.

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Re: high gas prices and good fur prices
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 04:24:52 PM »
i agree with both of you guys.
 
but when burn 100bucks a week of gas. it getting harder waiting for that fur check.
 
i'm just glad i have a truck gets really good mpgs but it still an't cheap to run.
 
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 07:01:01 PM »
To make money in seasonal highly price fluctuating enterprises such as trapping revenues need to be high while costs are low. Margins need to be high, otherwise these types of enterprises are pretty much a wash or one loses money to participate.
Unlike most very large stable businesses with narrow margins that can make money strictly because they deal in very large volume.
 
If one were to catch 200 coons in two weeks with 50 miles per day and other expenses, those two weeks have a pretty good seasonal return. Once you add in all overhead costs etc. and preperation labor etc. it shrinks considerably.  If you have the bug bad and go another 2 weeks and have the same expenses but catch only 50 the last two weeks your profit goes way down, but your overhead costs shrink.
I am going through my trap inventories and lookng at items that I may need. Wow traps that I bought 30 years ago for $40 per dozen are now $100-$125 per dozen! Coons are lower and rats are about the same. A good fox trap is now $10 each with a decent pelt $25, 30 years ago it was $4.00 for the trap and $60 for the fox! As much as I love to trap even when I am quote "retired" I won't quit my day job to just trap. The owners of the grocery stores, clothing stores and gas stations are not lowering their costs to me because my income was generated from a renewable resource. They want the same monies.
 
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 04:24:26 AM »
I've found over the years if I don't trap a little each fall, reguardless of gas or fur prices. I turn into this ugly creature that no one wants to be around. So I just try to kill the need to feel like I have to be out there trapping no matter how I do that. Back when rats were only a couple bucks each and I was short days I could be out. I set out a small rat line using my old canoe. Took me longer to run each day paddling but I seen a lot and got the trap bug worked out of me. I also had fur items made for mysellf and wife when fur prices were low. Can't do nothing about gas prices but try to tighten up the lenght of the trap line, run less set more.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 12:28:57 PM »
Its why most years I find a remote flowage or marsh to trap. Lots of work, hauling, paddling, wading whatver but you know after about 5-6 16 hour days I feel just great and I have enough money to buy the new waders I need!
For me trapping is a low cost shrink and the meds are pretty low cost too.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 02:10:28 PM »
Ditto and Amen!

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 08:22:42 PM »
 Its really funny--a few years ago,rats were $2.35 across the board--gas was around a buck eighty a gallon--so 3 rats bought about 4 gallons of gas.Now with a 7 to 10 dollar rat--3 rats will buy  6 to 9 gallons of gas.
 This is a rough estimate, but for rat trappers--it is costing me a lot less to harvest them now than it did for many years( say 1990 on ).
 Tom
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 05:32:48 PM »
IF the rat prices HOLD UP!  Remember  the fall of 1987!!!!!!!!!!! :'(

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2011, 06:39:23 PM »
 The stock market crash of 87 caused many problems. Todays stock market has prooved more resilliant than the one of24 years ago.
 I try not to dwell on the negatives on everything.
 Tom
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2011, 02:49:45 PM »
yeppers  doesnt do any good to think negatively  sooo   slap on some more ben gay and have a qt bottle of asperins in front seat of trapping truck...