Tender 30-30 w/ brake....

[asquires2]

I sent my Tender 30.30 barrel out to have a brake put on it. Im curious as to what kinda felt recoil can I expect from it when she gets back? I had my Encore 243 done and to my surprise it feels like a 222 rem w/ a 10" barrel. Hardly np kick what so ever.

[rescue_171]

I have owned both braked and unbraked super 14 barrels for my Contender... There was a small difference in recoil but it wasn't worth the reduced recoil for the added muzzle blast it added. If it was me I would stick with the non-braked barrel and go to a lighter bullet for some ruduced recoil.

[shot1]

It all depends on who make the break. Some are more effective than others. I too hate breaks because of the muzzle blast concussion the give off. As far as bullets go in the lighter weight for the 30-30 it is hard to beat the 125 Nosler ballistic tip. I use it in my 30-30AI and it just hammers deer and it will exit with a golf ball size hole going through both shoulders on a big WT deer. Get you some IMR 4198 powder and some 125 ballistic tips and work you up a load. Start at 28 grs and work toward 30 grs which is a max load. Out of a 14" barrel you should be able to get around 2300 fps with 30 grs IMR 4198 and 125 gr bullet.

[# 566]

Like  "Shot 1 " said, it depends on the brake,  Brakes like the JP, and others in the "shark Gill" class are the most effecent, AND also give off the most concussion directed to the rear.
 I've got a 30-30 with a JP brake. With healthy charges of  4198, 3031 RL-7 and 125/130 & 150's the whole pistol will actually move forward when shot off a bag or other types of rests.
 Let us know who's brake, or style you get.

[Three44s]

I am pretty new to the Tender's but in trying a .30-30 Super 14" with factory 150 and 170's I got beat up a fair amount.  I was shooting a right hand wood factory grip but I am a south paw and it had lot of torque.  After I bought the frame and grip I sanded the ridge off for right handers and created a custom of sorts.


Then I loaded 110-130 bullets I was happy with that barrel.  I have not tried the factory loads since the mod to the grip.


I would try the lighter loadings first and then decide if you want to get a break.




Three 44s

[shot1]

The problem many have with so call heavy recoil in handguns is they have never learned YOU CAN'T STOP ONE FROM RECOILING.  You can't hold one down you have to learn how to let it recoil. Use just enough grip to hold on to it and let it rise up from your shoulders not your elbows. When you grab one with a death grip and try to hold it down you will absorb a lot of recoil and most often not be very accurate with your shots.

[hoghunting]

 Replace the factory wood grip with the T/C composite grip or a Pachmayr grip. You'll be surprised how much of a difference that makes.

 I am not a fan of muzzle brakes either, and will tolerate recoil more than the muzzle blast.

[Hopalong7]

The problem many have with so call heavy recoil in handguns is they have never learned YOU CAN'T STOP ONE FROM RECOILING.  You can't hold one down you have to learn how to let it recoil. Use just enough grip to hold on to it and let it rise up from your shoulders not your elbows. When you grab one with a death grip and try to hold it down you will absorb a lot of recoil and most often not be very accurate with your shots.

AMEN!!!Walt

[Ladobe]

The problem many have with so call heavy recoil in handguns is they have never learned YOU CAN'T STOP ONE FROM RECOILING.  You can't hold one down you have to learn how to let it recoil. Use just enough grip to hold on to it and let it rise up from your shoulders not your elbows. When you grab one with a death grip and try to hold it down you will absorb a lot of recoil and most often not be very accurate with your shots.

AMEN!!!Walt

Yep, a death grip on any firearm nets you more punishment than learning how to "roll" with the firearm will.   And learning to go with the flow instead of fighting it will improve your accuracy with the firearm as well.   
 
I really hate brakes, on handguns especially.    But then putting one on a 30-30 is like putting training wheels on a 4 wheel vehicle to me.   
 
L.
 

[Lanyard Stretcher]

I admit my inexperience with many hard kickers with a TC. I have a muzzle tamer on my 30/30. The recoil is straight back and I feel it in my wrist. Barrels with out in my experience have more muzzle flip. In fact my buddy who is new to 44 mags had a muzzle flip into his forehead requiring stitches . Muzzle brake = loud, recoil straight back. No muzzle brake = muzzle flip.
 
Mike

[asquires2]

I had a muzzlebreak put on my 30/30 and my 243. After I had them installed I noticed the difference between the elbow and shoulder deal. Letting it recoil from the shoulder is all more enjoyable than the elbow. Im also thinking recoiling from the shoulder Im more accurate than recoiling from the elbow. I havent shot enough but thats my theory.