Years ago I purchased an NEF surviver Nickel for my young sons to use deer hunting. It came drilled and tapped for standard rail. Four holes. I mounted an old 3X9 and they could hit a pie plate at about 50y. Longer distance was hit or miss. The shot side of this was about ten yards with the choke tube in. They all grew out of this and I used it. Never killed a thing with it. I started reloading several years ago just to try to improve the accuracy and usefulness. Lee hand loader. I even used three inch brass shells, and learned to cast my own bullets for it. Same luck. I also had a pardner youth 410 full. Put survivor stocks on, had the choke bored to almost cyl bore, drilled and tapped, and mounted a compact 4X scope. Total cost was actually less then the NEF. Same shells, appropriate slugs, shot 6" at 75y and shot pattern was great. Then I found this forum. All that stuff is long gone. I now have 7 barrels, presses, molds, drawers full of stuff, several receivers and configurations. an addiction. For cheep and truck I would go with a 20g pardner, get surviver stocks, have it drilled and tapped, and kill things, almost anything, maybe an elephant if you can find one round here. Here is my truck/camp gun. 410 cyl bore.