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Offline gunther66

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35 whelen rimmed?
« on: March 13, 2011, 09:16:30 AM »
I am playing with the idea of rechambering a 35 whelen Handi rifle to a rimmed case. Has anyone found a donor case that will work for this? Could the 9.3x74R be used by necking down and shortening to 2.494"?   Any help here is appreciated. The whelen has about all the recoil I can comfortably handle
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 10:40:05 AM »
8X57 R.Norma makes this case and so does Prvi- Partisan I beleive. You could also use the 30-40 krag case as well.
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 11:16:42 AM »
I'm looking for a rimmed case that can be reformed to fit the 35 Whelen handi rifle chamber by simply making a rim cut. Haven't looked today, but from memory the 30/40,444 and  57mm are too short I think? 2.494" vs About 2 1/4". G66
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 01:50:45 PM »
66, just curious, why do you want to add a rim ?
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 01:58:57 PM »
Having the rim might be better for headspacing than the small shoulder of Whelen. Maybe it would help with the FTF problems.



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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 03:27:24 PM »
I prefer a rimmed case for single shot rifles. This has worked out well for a .308 that also became a 307 winchester and also a 7mm/08 that is now rimmed (using necked down 307 brass). So....Why not!  G66
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 05:20:09 AM »
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 08:52:32 AM »
  7 X 65 R would work, head diameter might be a few thousands less but dont see that being a problem.
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 09:35:32 AM »
The 7x65R does look promising. Thanks, Jedman
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2011, 04:38:40 PM »
66, I agree that break action rifles & rimmed cases belong together. The 307/308 setup is a real sweet deal. I am one who believes that no case shows it's full potential until it is fireformed to the chamber. I have had FTF's with my 358 Win. in a bolt rifle until the cases are fireformed, but after that, no problems. You probably know that using one of the fireforming methods can solve your FTF problems. Probably the most effective method is using a starting load with the bullet touching the lands. But I have had good results flairing the neck of my 358 Win. case necks with a LEE Neck Flairing Die, a load of Universal powder, topped with a Toilet Paper wad, & this saves a bullet. Once I have fireformed a case with this method I have not experienced a FTF. I flair the neck to the outside dimension of a fired case & this provides enough resistance to hold the case back.

But your rim idea has great merit & I'm sure there are many out here with me waiting to see your results. Good Luck !  :
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2011, 05:27:57 PM »
Thanks for the encouragement  CW.  I am still trying to find a rimmed case that is both long enough and has a base dia equal to the whelen case. The 405 win comes close but it is .011 too small above the rim.
I have had a FTF issue in a 357 mag and H & R fixed that to my satisfaction. the Whelen goes bang everytime.I just want to do this rimmed conversion for funsies and ease of handling cases. G66
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 01:19:33 AM »
Check out the 35-444 Marlin Wildcat. When the Marlin case is necked down to 35 caliber it is almost identical to the Whelen . Performance will be the same but will have positive headspace on the rim.
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Re: 35 whelen rimmed?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 01:54:39 AM »
An oldie but a goodie might be the .35 Krag!  I don't think failure to fire with .358 Win or .35 Whelen is a result of the
shoulder being too "small".  Ammo and rifle manufacturers would 'NOT' make or sell a cartridge with insufficient headspace!  I have two .35 Whelens and three .358 Win, all bolt rifles and no failures to fire!  I believe it occurs when the resizing die is adjusted improperly and the shoulder is "set back" during sizing.  I am the first to admit however I don't know that much about Handi rifles as I only own two, a 44 Mag and a 7mm-08, so I could be all "wet".  Oh, I don't have three bolt guns in .358 Win, one is a 760 Rem pump rechambered from .35 Remington.  It was one of the
carbine models brought out in 1979 and was then rechambered.  I have yet to find a better woods rifle.  Killed 15 deer
so far with it and only two moved from point of bullet impact.  Dropped them all with 200gr RN bullets from HDY and
Remington.  The two deer that did move went 30 yards and crashed into trees.  I have a limited run (300 pcs) of the 7600 pump in .35 Remington.  I loaded the 200gr HDY FTX gummie tip to 2404fps and killed a huge doe this past deer
season.  Another bang flop.  I dearly love my .35 caliber rifles from my .350 Mag down to my .357 Mag's.
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