Author Topic: rem 700 adl 30/06 (Read 1121 times)

b23ball23 · « **on:** December 16, 2003, 10:16:35 AM »

this is the gun i will probably get to add into my gun case...which currently is only pellet guns.
will a rem 700 ADL 30/06 get sub 1" groupings from 100+ yrds?.
i will probably just put a scope on it and shoot without adding much custom work.
thanks for your help-
god bless-
ben

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2003, 10:37:33 AM »

It might. But then again it might not. No one gurantees that kind of accuracy and especially not at that price. However the ADLs with the plastic stocks I've seen have indeed delivered it. But not everyone is capable of shooting that well even if the gun is. That is a variable only you can control

GB

b23ball23 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2003, 10:39:41 AM »

yes.... :grin: very true

thecowboyace · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2003, 10:48:23 AM »

Graybeard, he be telling you the truth. There are more guns cussed out there than what deserve it. Some people cannot shoot, say a gun that has a Monte Carlo stock on it, some can't shoot either the semi-auto or the bolt action of same caliber, same brand. They get another gun and they are on Cloud 9 and will all the while bemoan the RemWinSavBengogo that he had. There are times though, that a particular rifle, just that one, can not be used by anyone. Even after trigger work, tighten the bolt, float the trigger and sink the barrel, bed the barrel, and wake up the action. It just will not help that particular gun. Put in a shooter's vise, have the best balance beam scale there is to be had or count the flakes/rods of powder to be exact, the bullets weight exactly the same, and shoot in a conditioned room and it will not even do an 1"MOA at 50 yards.

I had bought a 22 Hornet right after my wife and I got married. I swear that I couldn't count on the bullet to even hit the ground if I shot between my feet. My wife could rack'em back at 100yrds., no MOA maybe but close enough to kill rabbits aways out there, w/o a scope. Sooo?

helobill · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2003, 02:11:04 PM »

I've had good luck with ADL's in the past, but as GB says both you and the rifle have to be up to the task. My 6mm Rem 700ADL was the first one I ever owned and I still have it, let see that makes the rifle over 30 years old. Doesn't see much use these days but if I have to shoot REAL accurate with a rifle at 100 yards it's the one I'm grabbing out of the cabinet. Savage claims to be the "most accurate rifle out of the box" but I don't think they guarantee Minute of Angle (MOA, just over 1" at 100 yards) accuracy. I've never personally seen a model 700 that wasn't accurate enough for hunting, when the shooter and load development was up to the task. Again though most factory ammo through a factory barrel will be able to do less than 2" at 100 yards in my experience. Now I know someone's gonna chime in here with a horor story about a rifle that wouldn't hit a barn wall at 100 yards no matter what. But if it was a new rifle, most manufacturers would try to make it right. But boy would I feel bad if I sent it back to them and they sent back a target with 5 holes within 1", so I'd make sure it wasn't me or the load I was using.
Bill

thecowboyace · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2003, 05:59:54 AM »

That would be the drizzlin's, for sure!

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2003, 06:50:20 AM »

Might not be an accuracy guarantee per se.........BUT:

"Both brands produced by Sako Ltd. (Sako and Tikka) are truly the finest production rifles available to the American shooter. Their match-grade barrel, adjustable trigger, silky-smooth bolt and distinctive styling are only a few of the attributes that have made Sako and Tikka household names in the USA. Most importantly, these rifles only leave the Finland factory after passing a rigorous 1-inch 100-yard test, making them an industry benchmark for out-of-the-box accuracy."

Copied from the Beretta website

http://www.berettausa.com/product/product_rifles_main.htm

helobill · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2003, 07:40:11 AM »

O-BG,
Savage web site kinda talks around the MOA accuracy issue too by quoting others and making the blanket statement "our firearms have enjoyed exceptional support and accolades for the "most accurate out of the box"".
Bill

Graybeard · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2003, 11:26:00 AM »

Be Dat as it may, when ya go out on the firing line at any rifle match such as the NRA High Power Silhouette Match or whatever they are calling it these days the ONLY rifle you'll likely see is a Remington 700. Must be some reason why the best shooters in the world choose it when they could be shooting anything they wanted to.

I know they all have their following and it might not be much more than the Ford-Chevy-Dodge argument but I'll take the Big Green any day myself.

GB

Zachary · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2003, 06:20:51 AM »

I think that there are at least of couple of reasons why most competition shooters shoot 700s.

I think that the first reason is because the 700 is one of, if not THE most, strongest action out there.

I think that the second reason is because 700 actions are relatively easy to customize - virtually every competent gunsmith knows how to work on them.

I think that the third reason is because 700 action are relatively inexpensive to buy.

Zachary

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2003, 06:46:29 AM »

Strongest---I'd give that to the Weatherby MK V action.

As far a target shooters choice of action in which to build a CUSTOM rifle------the Remington action was the only viable action available way back when---therefore all the custom parts came out and it was a self feeding situation.

Sort of like---imagine how many custom .45's would we have if Glock came out in 1911?? Answer---NONE!!! The 1911 .45 would have been a minor footnote in firearms history. Timing is everything.

But your average Joe buying an affordable out-of-the-box production gun---as opposed to some $10,000 custom monstrocity-----there really isn't any other choice but Sako/Tikka.

Also was reading today where little Green is on the verge of bankruptcy---and has already closed one plant----seems that poor QC has come back to bite them.

Zachary · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2003, 07:30:08 AM »

Quote from: Omaha-BeenGlockin

Also was reading today where little Green is on the verge of bankruptcy---and has already closed one plant----seems that poor QC has come back to bite them.

Really? That sounds interesting. I wonder what's going to happen. Remington had a really good thing going and let it slide by poor QC. Remington can get out of it by improving QC like Tikka and dropping their prices a bit.

Zachary

b23ball23 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2003, 10:43:32 AM »

since i'm more of a begginer would you know of any beginner guns i could look into. i am willing to up to 700$ i want something that doesn't have a huge recoil and i can target/ hunt with. O yeah - it must have the ability to be almost as accurate the shooter shoots it.

god bless- ben

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2003, 11:36:43 AM »

You can get a Tikka T3 for $400 to $500---depending on the model---scope rings and sling swivels are included.

That leaves you a couple hundred for a decent scope---and you'll have a rig that will out shoot you.

.270---.308----or .30-06 would be a good caliber----maybe a .243.

b23ball23 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2003, 12:00:01 PM »

i've heard lots about tikkas and rems and winchesters but hev not heard one bad thing about those tikkas!!!!
i will probably get help from my local gun shop

eroyd · « **Reply #15 on:** December 19, 2003, 05:57:16 AM »

No bad things about Tikka's eh? Well there ain't much, especially at the firing line. I own a 308 Whitetail Syn. It's a great shooter and you won't find a more affordable slick action and crisp trigger, but if I was looking at it as a serious backcountry hunting rifle; too much plastic, the rifles are heavy for what they are (typical of european) and dang name brand accessories are overly pricey. All plastic 3 rd mags are darn near $100 in Canada.

As for Remington's being the in gun for custom and competition guns; you can buy anything ready to go for a remington 700 action.ie. stocks pre inletted in any colour, shape or size, special scope mounts etc. etc. etc.. Next to the Ruger 10/22 or the 1911 it is probably got more after market stuff available than any firearm.

Graybeard · « **Reply #16 on:** December 19, 2003, 07:10:07 AM »

Errybody jist keeps on talking about QC problems at Remington. I just keep on buying new ones and they just keep on shooting MOA and well under day in and day out from all of them. I've likely bought 30 or more in the last say 5-6 years or maybe a tad more. Haven't needed to send any of them back or have a gunsmith look at them. Just pulled them out of box and went to shooting. Now maybe I'm just lucky (yeah right if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all) or you guys are just unlucky. Mine have shown no quality problems what so ever.

I buy nothing else.

GB

eroyd · « **Reply #17 on:** December 19, 2003, 08:23:02 AM »

Dhitto on the no prob's with Rem 700's or their 870 shotguns. I've however been told by owners that the semi-auto's are POC's.

Both my 700BDL long actions after a short break in are every bit as smooth as my Tikka and even slicker than both my Sako's. The Rem. factory triggers, after a bit of playing, break like glass.

b23ball23 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 19, 2003, 10:29:32 AM »

thanks, i have to listen to you guys and will take that praise into account!!

stork · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2003, 07:00:06 AM »

One thingthat most guys tend to forget is that there will always be a rifle that just won't shoot from just about every manufacture. Many guys get a bad one and automatically think that this company or that company makes a bad gun. No company has all bad or all inaccurate guns because if they did they would be out of business. No manufacture can mass produce guns and not get a few inaccurate ones, its just that some companies have fewer inaccureate guns than other manufactures.