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Offline Ron 1

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how to get them ready
« on: December 28, 2010, 07:10:06 AM »
i just got a few snares with locks/swivels and break aways
i am new to trapping with secsess  (catching anything)
i was wondering if i need to clean, descent them is there anything special i can or should do to  them?
i think i know where i want to put them but am not sure.  my thinking is once the yotes start making there trails i should be set as long as they can not smell the necklesses i beleive i need rubber gloves too. anything else?
or suggestions? thank you for any help.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 01:51:06 PM »
Ron 1 just boil them in a bucket of water with about a half box of baking soda, this will darken and descent them. Then you will be ready to go. Some people paint their snares but it is to late in the year for you to do this, if you want to in the spring just let them air good before putting them away to let the paint smell go away.  As far as gloves go, you want to wear clean gloves but I don't know that rubber gloves are needed as you are depositing scent at the set from skin rafts that your body is naturally shedding anyway but wearing hip boots and gloves helps minimize this.  Good luck on the trapline.

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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 02:43:13 PM »
Set your loop about 8 inches off the ground and about 8 to 9 inches in diameter. Set them right in the middle of the trail with only enough guide sticks to keep them on the trail. Don't over do it unless you are already in a tight trail that the coyotes are used to. I do a lot of fence snaring and only a weed stem or two are needed to guide them through the snare. One last thing to remember is make sure the only thing that moves once your snare is set is the lock.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 01:01:55 AM »
so hooking the break away end to a 1"tree  two foot off the ground for some give (like a spring) is not a good idea?
the break aways are 250# this is what i was told i needed to be legal with the set up
then i was told a yote can pull more than 250# and will break the break aways and run off with my rigs!that was the idea of the small tree hook up. thanks for the advise
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 i will boil them today
rubber rain suit /boots and gloves i hope i got this all right ??? i added the rain suit thinking it can not hurt in keeping any oder to a minimum
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 05:11:20 AM »
we are required by law, to not have the top of the loop more than 16 inches off the ground


this means either 10 inch loop 6 inches of the ground, or a 8" loop 8 inches off the ground-

neither of which are worth squat for coyotes- that puts the loop right at eye level, and you are going to get a LOT of refusals

if your laws allow it- go with a 12" loop, about the same off the ground

if forced to use smaller loops, uphill or downhill will get the coyote to drop his head
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 01:49:26 PM »
Sounds like some solid advice, I will have to give it a try.

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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 12:12:18 PM »
well i boiled 6 snares in baking soda and wore rubber gloves and rubber boots after boiling and to set them. when we had snow i seen where there tracks were and hung them on those trails. i think i found there den  ??? and set one at the top of the hill were i found two piles of scat i hope this will get one or two as we have alot of them critters here.
and in another spot 100 yrds from my hunting house i wired a deer rib cage to a tree so i can have sum fun with the 22-250 or the 22 mag the mag is for nite hunting.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 02:29:48 AM »
well it aint going so good here  :(
the yotes are on the trails that i set up on but they seem to know that something is not right  ???
the yotes walk/trot right up to the snares and stop and turn around the tracks show this in the snow  ???
any ideas on what im doing wrong?
 if i had set some foot holds by the rib cage i might have i few by now as they have been there almost every night well after dark. tonight i will be in the hunting house, now if i can just see them that is the question
i need the full moon to help me tho. any help on this would be appreciated. 
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 03:34:10 AM »
so what size loops, and how high off the ground are you hanging the snares-


what you are descibing, is the exact type of refusals I too often get, setting legal snares.

Rally Hess gave me this tip- place a "jump stick" over the trial- but not where you hang the snare. place the stick up or down the trial, 10-15 feet away from the snare- coyotes are single minded, and placing the stick away from the snare, focuses their eyes on the stick down the trial, not the snare
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 03:55:05 AM »
the loop is about 8-10  and 8 -10 in off the ground  i will try the jump sticks to see if it will help as of yet i have nothing to loose
i have one hung over the log that they use to cross a big drainage ditch and they will turn around on the log and cross in the deep muck
this is harder than i would have thought it to be.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 04:06:31 AM »
i just had a thought
i know of a big hollow tree trunk if i put some  meat in it and set the opening with a snare,it would have to stick its head in to get the treat and hopefully get to wear the lil neck less i have for them. what do you think?
we are getting more snow now but it is not deep enough for the yotes to start trailing yet.
when i go check the sets i use my quad and binocks so i dont get to close to the sets i stay about 50 yrds away so i dont add more scent to the area.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 04:10:50 AM »
Try to break up the snares outline with a few weeds. Next year after you boil your snares spray paint the a neutral color like light brown or an almond color to help them blend into the weeds and tall grasses you have along the trails they're using. Its to late to try it now as the paint smell needs time to disipate. You can also use a watered down cold dip to camo your snares, but it needs to be very thin to work properly on snares. To thick and the dip will gum up the holes in your locks.  Like I mentioned before, I do a lot of fence snaring and most fences I set on are made of galvanized wire and my plain, boiled snares match the fence wire very well. I do get refusales on trails, but try to use camo'ed snares where there aren't any fences. You can go on Trapperman.com and look in their archives under snaring and get alot of good information. You won't get to many coyotes to stick their heads into a hollow tree. They're just to weary. Plus it would have to be a very big hollow tree for the coyote to move forward enough to get its head into the snare and to set the snare moving. It just isn't going to happen unless the coyote can move through the snare enough to close the lock.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2011, 03:45:22 AM »
i am not sure what has happened but scene i put out the snares and had some refusals there dont seem to be near as many yote tracks on the property any more or at least for the last few days. they arnt even going to the bait pile i have made for them. 
now that we have about 8"-10" of snow will it be easyer or harder to use foot holds in the fluffy snow?
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2011, 05:35:27 AM »
 Footholds tend to be harder to keep opperating,once yopu have snow and freezing conditions.
 The snow will also change the patterns of the canines using your area. Your snaring should become easier once the yotes start using certain trails.
 Give them time, they will be back--breeding season should also start--this changes when and where they are moving, also.
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 01:42:48 PM »
 ;D ;D i caught a dumb one it worked i dont know if it was the jump stick or if it was just that dumb ;)
the skinning was harder than i thought it would be only about a 30# male this one will be cold tonight ;D ;D
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 02:33:37 AM »
Congratulations!!

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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2011, 08:22:47 PM »
congrats i hope i get one next season
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Re: how to get them ready
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2011, 07:10:50 PM »
paint some with some, not all,  white on them too, for use in snow
paint others with the colors of weeds in your area
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