I have a PH 20ga slug barrel and I sure felt the recoil. I have a Boyd's thumb hole stock which adds a bit of weight compared to the regular Encore stock but after 5-6 shots it was painful to continue. This was while sighting it in and finding what slugs work best for the barrel. After a few times to the range I got tired of getting beat up and I decided to look for one (I got it here from jobyjob,great transaction). I installed it and went through 4-5 boxes of slugs at the range and never felt a thing. I would have paid 2-3 times more for it had I known how much better it felt. Keep an eye out here and you will find one at a reasonable price. Good Luck.